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[Robin Hood]

I like this new ‘fake news’ scenario ..... here follows a classic example ..... not one link to a single credible source .... all we have is one persons opinion, which should definitely NOT be taken seriously!

Paphitis:

There is only a 1 week window where these aircraft carriers are in port. And when we say they are in port, that does not mean the USA

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You have no idea why they are in port or where ..... they certainly are not in Limassol .... I think someone would have noticed.

The remainder of the Battle Group would still be at Sea, as ships are only ever rotated. the entire battle Group never goes to port all at once. military planners also pick their time to take advantage of low tempo windows and Aircraft carriers go to port for a variety of reasons. not all of them are in maintenance but could be stocking up on stores, fuel, and rotation of Crews. Personnel are only allowed 6 months of constant deployment.

Maybe , in your opinion, but hardly relevant to the mystery of why the US would take 10 carriers out of service at the same time.

In the Mediterranean, the US 5th Fleet includes other capital Ships such as the HMAS Canberra which actually cross decks USN F-35 VTOL for Air Support to the Fleet. You can also bet, that there might be other capital ships there as well, such as either a British, Spanish, Italian or French Aircraft carrier to cover the gap.

Again, just a guess on your part but using just common sense it's probably true. In fact we know the French carrier is still there and various other warships. But the 'threat' of the Kuznetsov to your terrorists has been removed ..... it is on its way back to Russia.

The assertion that the US is planing a false Flag against its carriers is insanity in its purist form and fake news.

The author of the article discounted that as an irrational theory and as being a most unlikely scenario. Once again, had you taken the trouble to read the article that would have been obvious by the end of the first paragraph.

Whatever keeps you peasants happy and occupied.

Well .... as you appear to be a Chief Peasant ...... they have been keeping you happy with their false/fake news for decades ......... it’s only peasants like us that don’t fall for it and do not accept the 'news' without question. YOU just suck it up like blotting paper because you are as totally brain washed as the Jihadi's, by your own leaders fairy tales!

BTW, the USN George H W bush is scheduled to leave port on 20Jan - same day as Trump's inauguration.

But where is it going? The China Sea I believe ........... to protect the US’s national security?

[Paphitis]

I like this new ‘fake news’ scenario ..... here follows a classic example ..... not one link to a single credible source .... all we have is one persons opinion, which should definitely NOT be taken seriously!

Paphitis:

There is only a 1 week window where these aircraft carriers are in port. And when we say they are in port, that does not mean the USA

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You have no idea why they are in port or where ..... they certainly are not in Limassol .... I think someone would have noticed.

The remainder of the Battle Group would still be at Sea, as ships are only ever rotated. the entire battle Group never goes to port all at once. military planners also pick their time to take advantage of low tempo windows and Aircraft carriers go to port for a variety of reasons. not all of them are in maintenance but could be stocking up on stores, fuel, and rotation of Crews. Personnel are only allowed 6 months of constant deployment.

Maybe , in your opinion, but hardly relevant to the mystery of why the US would take 10 carriers out of service at the same time.

In the Mediterranean, the US 5th Fleet includes other capital Ships such as the HMAS Canberra which actually cross decks USN F-35 VTOL for Air Support to the Fleet. You can also bet, that there might be other capital ships there as well, such as either a British, Spanish, Italian or French Aircraft carrier to cover the gap.

Again, just a guess on your part but using just common sense it's probably true. In fact we know the French carrier is still there and various other warships. But the 'threat' of the Kuznetsov to your terrorists has been removed ..... it is on its way back to Russia.

The assertion that the US is planing a false Flag against its carriers is insanity in its purist form and fake news.

The author of the article discounted that as an irrational theory and as being a most unlikely scenario. Once again, had you taken the trouble to read the article that would have been obvious by the end of the first paragraph.

Whatever keeps you peasants happy and occupied.

Well .... as you appear to be a Chief Peasant ...... they have been keeping you happy with their false/fake news for decades ......... it’s only peasants like us that don’t fall for it and do not accept the 'news' without question. YOU just suck it up like blotting paper because you are as totally brain washed as the Jihadi's, by your own leaders fairy tales!

BTW, the USN George H W bush is scheduled to leave port on 20Jan - same day as Trump's inauguration.

But where is it going? The China Sea I believe ........... to protect the US’s national security?

A few points here.

If the USS Nimitz is in port, it is either in Naples or Souda Bay, Crete. That is its ports. Either that, or they will go to Israel or Turkey.

Secondly, the Kuznetov is absolutely zero threat to the US 6th Fleet. In a war, it would be the first ship to sink on day 1. And that is just for the symbolism.

Thirdly, there are over 600 Coalition aircraft in the Gulf at the moment operating out of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar.

Also, there are at least 2 other Aircraft carriers with the 6th Fleet right now, and these ships are surrounded by a flotilla of about 45 cruisers, Destroyers, frigates, and Submarines. Their are enough ICBMs to destroy Russia in a matter of hours.

And so far you have confirmed the presence of the French Aircraft carrier. You can add HMAS Canberra and probably a British Aircraft carrier potentially, and maybe the Spanish and the Italians are there too.

They inter-operate under one NATO Command.

[Robin Hood]

BTW, the Coalition welcomes Israel into the Syrian war!

Some wonderful Air Strikes were conducted just to the South West of Damascus targeting Regime military targets and Hesbollah!

Wonderful news!

What a plonker you are! Isn't this the same Syrian/Hezbollah airfield near to Damascus that the Israeli's 'destroyed' a couple of weeks ago ........... according to you?

Another act of war! Another war crime to add to Israel's long list of war crimes!

The Syrians have threatened to retaliate ...... but of course that is laughable because they only have a few S-400's ...... and as we all know from what you have told us, they are completely ineffective against US built aircraft.

[Paphitis]

BTW, the Coalition welcomes Israel into the Syrian war!

Some wonderful Air Strikes were conducted just to the South West of Damascus targeting Regime military targets and Hesbollah!

Wonderful news!

What a plonker you are! Isn't this the same Syrian/Hezbollah airfield near to Damascus that the Israeli's 'destroyed' a couple of weeks ago ........... according to you?

Another act of war! Another war crime to add to Israel's long list of war crimes!

The Syrians have threatened to retaliate ...... but of course that is laughable because they only have a few S-400's ...... and as we all know from what you have told us, they are completely ineffective against US built aircraft.

You asked for it, and you can't say I didn't warn you. It will be decades before the regime get themselves out of the Stone Age and there is NOTHING Russia can do about it without having a war with America and we know they are not interested in that.

You can't see we have disappointed or let you down. Now say thank you!

[Paphitis]

now here is another tip. for as long as there is a Hezbollah in Syria, there will be war.

It seems you are about to find out the hard way.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

A few points here.

Mostly irrelevant.

If the USS Nimitz is in port, it is either in Naples or Souda Bay, Crete. That is its ports. Either that, or they will go to Israel or Turkey.

You really are slow on the uptake ! All 10 carriers are shown moored side-by-side I doubt that any of the facilities you list would be capable of hosting all ten. So a good guess would be ...... a US Port. If they ARE there to have all the copper wiring replaced, this will take many months. BUT .... they could just replace the multicore communication/control copper cables which links all the internal systems, with fibre optics and this could be done in a few weeks.

Secondly, the Kuznetov is absolutely zero threat to the US 6th Fleet. In a war, it would be the first ship to sink on day 1. And that is just for the symbolism.

Who said it was a 'threat ‘.....to the US 6th Fleet’ .... read comment again. The threat was never as a carrier ...... but it, as a CRUISER has a formidable arsenal of missiles. ‘Carrier’ is actually its secondary roll ..... as a floating airfield for launching light fighter aircraft where very few airfields exist ..... in Northern Russia!

Thirdly, there are over 600 Coalition aircraft in the Gulf at the moment operating out of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar.

Well ..... the Russians in coordination with the Syrians seem to have been more effective with far fewer aircraft to date. 85% of the Syria population is now under government protection in relatively safe areas. Most cities are clear of the majority of terrorists. YOUR terrorists are now being squeezed into the Idlib area and are surrendering in their thousands for a government amnesty. (Something I have to say I believe will turn out to be a big mistake ..... like when Assad released all the Jihadi’s from prison to appease the Opposition in 2004 (?) and then the US armed them to overthrow him ...... the same could happen again.)

Also, there are at least 2 other Aircraft carriers with the 6th Fleet right now, and these ships are surrounded by a flotilla of about 45 cruisers, Destroyers, frigates, and Submarines. Their are enough ICBMs to destroy Russia in a matter of hours.

According to you then ..... the carriers left for some reason without their battle fleet for protection. Seems a very strange concept?

Look again at the point I made about the Russians attitude to using defence rather than offence. One reason they don’t have mighty nuclear powered aircraft carriers ..... they are expensive, vulnerable, purely offensive and the concept is obsolete.

BTW: There are enough ICBM’s in Russia, like SATAN, to take out the whole North America in less than an hour and Europe in a few minutes. But the Russians won’t be the ones that fire first!

[Paphitis]

well I am sure there must be a photo of all ten moored side by side.

No! nothing you mean! no photos? no evidence.

Too bad!

Meanwhile, back in the real world, time to admire the IAF, our ally!

BTW, Aircraft carriers do not have a secondary role. they are purely carriers and rely on the battle Group for Missile Area defence.

Secondly, the USA and allies as well as Israel have the most advance missile defence shields on the planet. Which gives us the upper hand in any Nuclear Exchange. We spend ten times more on this technology than the entire Nuclear Arsenal just to show you what is important and what isn't. There are no guarantees any Russian Missile will reach its target as opposed to our which will reach their target.

The only reason why Russians are more effective is because they do not have any rules of Engagement. we could do the same if we wanted, but then we would be exactly the same as Pootin and the Regime, as WAR CRIMINALS. We are the Coalition! we are the democratic WEST! we do not kill thousands upon thousands of civilians or bomb hospitals. there is a BIG difference between the Coalition vis a vis Russia and Syria or Assad shouldn't even be in the same sentence as us. it's offensive!

[Paphitis]

looks like history is about to repeat itself.

Israel gives a big lesson to Syria. JUST WOW!

Time warp back to 1982! Those F-15s would have just been killer back then!

[Paphitis]

and here is the IAF saying HELLO to us all in Pafos, Cyprus! just wonderful!







We are now in the big time ladies and gents!

[Londonrake]

Everyday I get a load of YouTube stuff popping up on my home page. TBH there has never seemed to be any rhyme or reason for the subjects (chalk and cheese) they appear to be random. Although, if I've been watching something, other similar things get presented in a section of it.

Anyway, blah, blah. Today, just by coincidence, the attached appears. I make no attempt to give it any authority, neither to discredit it. I just stick it here out of interest.

If I might dip my foot in the water?

Here we are talking about what must be pushing a million tons of shipping. The combined crews amount to about 50,000. Each CVN has approximately 900 miles of wire and cable embedded. The vessels are hardened in order to be able to operate in a nuclear/EMP environment.

Is it credible, not only that what must be a vast task can be achieved in such a short space of time but that it's being done in secret? Well, apart from the inquisitive few knowing that is.

Moreover the statement "the Russians discovered that copper wiring permits them to disrupt the operating systems with certain radar frequencies built into their air control systems". Well, what we are talking about here is a super (war winning) weapon. Modern EMP proof warships can be made dead in the water, fighters can be rendered impotent in mid air? This by "simple radar frequencies" in an existing aircraft control system? Moreover, it not only being "discovered" but used in insignificant, apparently knee-jerk, trivial demonstrations. Rather than, as you might think, kept the most closely guarded of secrets for when it could be needed in anger? Credibility?

In the same way that the 35 Russian diplomats were thrown out of Washington, might it not be a simple case of Obama trying to make life as difficult as he can for Trump? Despite his friendly, corn-fed, family man veneer Barack Hussein can be quite a devious bastard (as they tend to say around here).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6rFnBAA_s0

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