it's not just my opinion. it is the commonly held stance of many nations of the EU, Australia among many more countries which do not have any ties with Cuba whatsoever. it's not just about the "demonization" from the USA, but there are over 1,200,000 refugees who fled Cuba between 1959 to 1993 to Florida.
Robin Hood wrote:They can’t have ties because the US says so. If your suggestion is correct, how come every year for the last 24 years the USGA voted in favour of lifting the Cuban Embargo/Sanctions completely ..... Australia included ..... with only two countries consistently voting against the overwhelming majority and they are The USA and Israel.
They can have ties if they want to. but even since Obama's visit to Cuba, Australia and many more countries choose not to.
Who cares anyway. The USA can have an embargo if it wants. Since when can the UN condemn sovereign actions of the USA?
Australia doesn't have diplomatic ties with Cuba and that is as good as an embargo.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=52391#.WEEKeU27rQwNo one needs to "demonize" Fidel at all.
Robin Hood wrote:‘Demonisation’ is a consistent MO by the US whether it is other world leaders, governments or nations. They even applied it during their elections for President ...... Clinton and Trump tried to continuously demonise one another ...... it’s the way America does things. The people are not too smart when it comes to recognising disinformation or a diversion tactic.
there is no need to "demonize". fidel does a great job all by himslef.
Plus, Cuba is a NOTHING country. A mere insignificant and impoverished little blimp on the map. in other words, no one really cares about Cuba.
Statistics vary from 30,000 to 120,000 depending on the source and I took the low end with the extreme end and arrived at a figure half way in between.
Robin Hood wrote:Statistics are only reliable if they are scientific, include ALL relevant components and most of all, can be replicated ......... with consistent results. What you quote are guesses from different sources. Not a scientific study.
there have been a number of very reliable studies done, from very reputable academics and from eye witness accounts.
But regardless, it is impossible for anyone to offer you concrete and accurate numbers just like it is impossible to provide accurate data about executions and the goings on in north korea. we do our best, but that is all that can be done.
not that it matters, because it is a FACT that summary executions took place, and that Cuba is a hermit and isolated poor country, which lacks freedoms and human rights. Whether they executed 30,000 or 120,000 is irrelevant.
But I will placate you. At the low end, there were some 15,000 people who were executed and political detainees, or for being complicit one way or another with the Batista Regime.
Robin Hood wrote:It was a revolution of the people against a US backed regime that allowed the country to be raped for the interests of the few .... Batista and his supporters. So, they got rid of them ...... just like you would like to see happen with Assad. The similarity being that, like Castro’s support, the support for Assad comes from the people. In both cases this is/was antithetical to the ambitions and interests of the USA so, where they don’t fancy a fighting war (preferably using proxies these days) they unilaterally impose an illegal economic one.
that argument only stands if Fidel had opened cuba up as a viable international citizen, valued human rights and the rule of law. as it stands, the regime still thinks it is still a revolution 59 years later. A single party system, with no freedoms or HR.
Assad is even worse, and he is in his final moments. we couldn't really care about Cuba, but Assad we do care about.
Either way, your only argument is that Fidel might not be as bad as I say. Well, he is friggin bloody bad no matter how you dice it.
Robin Hood wrote:The Cuban people who lived under his ‘
tyranny’ do not seem to agree with you!
yes they do. there are 1,200,000 who do agree at least.
And there are many more in Cuba who also agree.
Where are your links btw?