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[Robin Hood]

oh yes I can see so many countries lining up to wish the bastard to croak!

I am sure he would be delighted to hear from you! Here is his number: 007 495 606 3602 ..... you can tell him how much you admire his efforts to drive the terrorist out of Syria, the Ukraine Nazi's out of Crimea and the Georgians out of South Ossetia.

If you cant reach him, leave him your address and I am sure somebody will get back to you (at 3am on a moonless night )

We've already got all his Government tapped.

The RAAF's 2 Wedgetail Aircraft does all the talking on my behalf old chap.

..... and just like you, they seem to make a lot of mistakes when called upon to provide their opinion ..... like target coordinates? Or the US is lying again that targeting Syrian Arab Army personnel was just an unfortunate mistake?

This morning the 'US' (Read Clinton) is now blaming Russia for cyber attacks on the US electoral system! The US has its NGO's in virtually every country on the planet to directly influence the political direction and they accuse Russia? How more transparently ludicrous can this US propaganda get before the dumb Americans see through it?

[Paphitis]

So you believe it was a mistake but don't believe assad is a war criminal and is bombing hospitals or using chemical weapons.

Mistake or not, our wedgetails are still flying and there isn't a single thing Pootin can do about it.

Today, Kerry called for a war crimes Investigation. things are heating up and we are coming.

Yes, we do know that Trump is a sell out. we also know the Republicans are abandoning ship after his atrocious comments about women.

just Pootin's style to be in cohoots with such a poor example of a human being!

[Schnauzer]

TODAY (according to the News) is "Make a Noise Day" and it heralds the commencement of a 'Charitable Drive' to obtain funds in order to make significant changes to the lives of children and their families (Global).

How appropriate that such an important day (in terms of 'Charity Events) coincides with the birth of Vladimir Putin, there can be no doubt that the Man is making significant 'Changes' in Aleppo and elsewhere whilst there is also no doubt that He (or those who act on His behalf) are making plenty of 'Noise' about it, one wonders if someone (somewhere) is trying to take the piss out of us all ?.

So, "Happy Birthday Vladimir" the 'Children and their Families' are grateful to you I'm sure.

You are grateful for war Crimes, which is something you will need to answer to later on.

I think you've made a bollocks of your interpretation Cobber, my comment is a denouncement NOT an approval of Putin.

I think it's called "Tongue in cheek" observation and strikes me as quite appropriate for "Make a Noise" day, that's all.

[Paphitis]

TODAY (according to the News) is "Make a Noise Day" and it heralds the commencement of a 'Charitable Drive' to obtain funds in order to make significant changes to the lives of children and their families (Global).

How appropriate that such an important day (in terms of 'Charity Events) coincides with the birth of Vladimir Putin, there can be no doubt that the Man is making significant 'Changes' in Aleppo and elsewhere whilst there is also no doubt that He (or those who act on His behalf) are making plenty of 'Noise' about it, one wonders if someone (somewhere) is trying to take the piss out of us all ?.

So, "Happy Birthday Vladimir" the 'Children and their Families' are grateful to you I'm sure.

You are grateful for war Crimes, which is something you will need to answer to later on.

I think you've made a bollocks of your interpretation Cobber, my comment is a denouncement NOT an approval of Putin.

I think it's called "Tongue in cheek" observation and strikes me as quite appropriate for "Make a Noise" day, that's all.

In that case you have my apologies then.

I'm glad your comment was tongue in cheek. I'm very glad you recognise the fact that War Crimes are being committed in Aleppo every day.

Yes I am sure the Children and Their families are grateful to Pootin. I appreciate the sarcasm now.

You must be the only person apart from myself who has acknowledged these war crimes on this forum. Good for you.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

So you believe it was a mistake but don't believe assad is a war criminal and is bombing hospitals or using chemical weapons.

No I think it was deliberate .... I think the US are habitual liars!

Mistake or not, our wedgetails are still flying and there isn't a single thing Pootin can do about it.

S-300's, S-400's and s-500's will deal with them, if they cross the Syrian border without the permission of the internationally recognised Syrian government.

Today, Kerry called for a war crimes Investigation. things are heating up and we are coming.

Good! Is he putting his name on the list? YOUR crimes can be proved, YOU commit them every day, so far the accusations against both Assad and Russia are just that .... accusations. YOU have so far offered no evidence that even remotely suggests they are true.

Yes, we do know that Trump is a sell out. we also know the Republicans are abandoning ship after his atrocious comments about women.

Never liked him and his comments are despicable but about par for the course so far, but his arrogance and boastful attitude reminds me of someone ........ now let me think ......... just who might that be?

just Pootin's style to be in cohoots with such a poor example of a human being!

Is he in cahoots with Trump? Has he ever met him? Do you have any intercepted telephone conversations between them? If your intelligence is capable of collecting 150,000 telephone calls in Ukraine, surely a couple of calls between Trump and Putin would be easy-peasy?

Come into the REAL world ...... look at these two candidates and they represent the best the US can do for the leader of their country? Heaven help us all ..... Trump will build a wall and make rape legal ...... and Clinton will redecorate the White House and launch nukes at Russia, Iran, China and ...... hell knows who else, and then invade any she missed!

[Schnauzer]

TODAY (according to the News) is "Make a Noise Day" and it heralds the commencement of a 'Charitable Drive' to obtain funds in order to make significant changes to the lives of children and their families (Global).

How appropriate that such an important day (in terms of 'Charity Events) coincides with the birth of Vladimir Putin, there can be no doubt that the Man is making significant 'Changes' in Aleppo and elsewhere whilst there is also no doubt that He (or those who act on His behalf) are making plenty of 'Noise' about it, one wonders if someone (somewhere) is trying to take the piss out of us all ?.

So, "Happy Birthday Vladimir" the 'Children and their Families' are grateful to you I'm sure.

You are grateful for war Crimes, which is something you will need to answer to later on.

I think you've made a bollocks of your interpretation Cobber, my comment is a denouncement NOT an approval of Putin.

I think it's called "Tongue in cheek" observation and strikes me as quite appropriate for "Make a Noise" day, that's all.

In that case you have my apologies then.

I'm glad your comment was tongue in cheek. I'm very glad you recognise the fact that War Crimes are being committed in Aleppo every day.

Yes I am sure the Children and Their families are grateful to Pootin. I appreciate the sarcasm now.

You must be the only person apart from myself who has acknowledged these war crimes on this forum. Good for you.

Apology accepted in good humour.

I am of the opinion that the term 'War Crime' is far too often attached to ANY incident or action which does not suit the opposing force when the result is loss of innocent civilian life.

My personal views on the terrible events (occurring in many places) are invariably the result of that which I have seen and experienced rather than that which is available through 'News Media'.

I do NOT condone the actions of either (OR ANY) party in the conflicts in and around the ME and prefer to search for the reasons for WHY there is so much disharmony there.

My own conclusions are at odds with those of others BUT, 'I' strongly support the analysis that 'American Foreign Policy' is responsible for EVERY death (civilian or otherwise) attributable to those conflicts that now rage throughout the ME.

Not a popular conclusion on this forum since there is far too much 'Bias' in favour of those events hailed as 'Justifiable' taking place NOW and no consideration given to the events which led to them.

One needs to recall atrocities and 'War Crimes' of the past (relatively recent) in order to draw conclusions about where the responsibility lies for ALL the mayhem we now witness AND, a good 'Starting Point' would be the 'Unlawful Murderous Assault' upon the innocent nation of 'IRAQ' (since proven to be as stated) and everything becomes 'Crystal Clear'.

There ARE earlier 'Trigger Points' perpetrated by 'Western Powers' and the more discerning among us may well be able to identify them, it is not too difficult, providing the subject is approached upon the understanding that the 'Eastern Cultures' and others elsewhere, are as entitled to conduct themselves in as much accordance to their beliefs as are those of the 'West'.........simple.

[Paphitis]

Apology accepted in good humour.

I am of the opinion that the term 'War Crime' is far too often attached to ANY incident or action which does not suit the opposing force when the result is loss of innocent civilian life.

My personal views on the terrible events (occurring in many places) are invariably the result of that which I have seen and experienced rather than that which is available through 'News Media'.

I do NOT condone the actions of either (OR ANY) party in the conflicts in and around the ME and prefer to search for the reasons for WHY there is so much disharmony there.

My own conclusions are at odds with those of others BUT, 'I' strongly support the analysis that 'American Foreign Policy' is responsible for EVERY death (civilian or otherwise) attributable to those conflicts that now rage throughout the ME.

Not a popular conclusion on this forum since there is far too much 'Bias' in favour of those events hailed as 'Justifiable' taking place NOW and no consideration given to the events which led to them.

One needs to recall atrocities and 'War Crimes' of the past (relatively recent) in order to draw conclusions about where the responsibility lies for ALL the mayhem we now witness AND, a good 'Starting Point' would be the 'Unlawful Murderous Assault' upon the innocent nation of 'IRAQ' (since proven to be as stated) and everything becomes 'Crystal Clear'.

There ARE earlier 'Trigger Points' perpetrated by 'Western Powers' and the more discerning among us may well be able to identify them, it is not too difficult, providing the subject is approached upon the understanding that the 'Eastern Cultures' and others elsewhere, are as entitled to conduct themselves in as much accordance to their beliefs as are those of the 'West'.........simple.

No offence but i do not subscribe to the theory that the West is responsible for the upheaval in Syria.

For decades, we had nothing to do with Syria or assad and neither did we want to involve ourselves. the popular notion that DAESH was formed because of our invasion of iraq is incredibly flawed. DAESH was not formed in Iraq but Syria.

The disharmony was created in syria along sectarian lines between SHIA and Sunni. There are millions of Syrians who have legitimate reasons to feel hard done by from the regime. Hence why there was The Arab spring in a few countries. It's fair enough, but then the Spring was crushed by assad. then DAESH and a few other groups take hold, and they exploited the vacuum we created in iraq.

Luckily, that has been controlled and will be dealt with but syria is a long way from any respite. You can't just bomb the rebellion into oblivion and expect the assad regime to resume business as usual.

[Paphitis]

as to the S400, i don't think we are worried. do you think we give a rats arse about the S400?

For know, they are just paper weights. They aren't operational. Pootin is scared to switch them on.

if they are switched on, and our planes are engaged, then we will take that as direct action against the coalition and we will respond to defend our aircraft.

it would be bye bye S400s. And we will use Russia's radar to guide our missiles right on top of them. We won't lose a single aircraft.

[Robin Hood]

as to the S400, i don't think we are worried. do you think we give a rats arse about the S400?

For know, they are just paper weights. They aren't operational. Pootin is scared to switch them on.

if they are switched on, and our planes are engaged, then we will take that as direct action against the coalition and we will respond to defend our aircraft.

it would be bye bye S400s. And we will use Russia's radar to guide our missiles right on top of them. We won't lose a single aircraft.

Easy to say when you are still the other side of the fence! You forget that some months ago you had some fancy all-singing, all-dancing ultra super high tech vessel in the Black Sea, close to Sevastopol and the Russian switched it off and it sat there dead in the water for an hour or so as the Russian Air Force gave them a flying display!

What you overlook is that whilst the US extensive military arsenal has all been about offensive weapons and attacking other countries, Russia knew that eventually they would be a target. So being smart and not having the wish to invade other country's they concentrated on defensive weapons and systems. Now Russia has the systems that makes most of the Wests fancy stealth and offensive weaponry obsolete. If Assad, assisted by the Russians, declares a no-fly zone from its borders, over the area called Syria by international recognition ..... you will get fried. Don't say you were not warned and don't blame the Russians.

Putin is a black belt in Judo and the one thing you learn in that discipline is ......... to let your opponent make the first move!

You clearly demonstrate the way you think and I would bet the US War Hawks live in exactly the same illusionary world you do .....the one where they are invincible. The UN offer is on the table, the Russians agree with it and Putin has the strength to make Assad comply but it will not suit the US one little bit! It would be an embarrassment as they would be seen as on the losig side and Russia was calling the tune .... which they are of course. The US will not agree and I will suggest to you what Kerry will want. The bombing to stop BEFORE any such agreement is entered into. The usual dumb demands the US uses every time and then blames Russia because they will not dance to the US tune!

As I said, peace is possible ...... but the US will drag its feet by insisting on pre-conditions to ensure the Aleppo battle continues while they try to get it stopped by making demands on the Russians/Assad, using the civilians YOUR terrorists are using as hostages as the excuse. Assad/Russia are on a winning streak and YOUR terrorists are about to get annihilated. Now there is a way out!

As Larof said "It was not us that invented the term 'collateral damage' ..... I think we all know who did?" It is your US coalition that is the problem! If YOUR terrorists walk away from Aleppo .... the slaughter stops instantly.

[Get Real!]

as to the S400, i don't think we are worried. do you think we give a rats arse about the S400?

For know, they are just paper weights. They aren't operational. Pootin is scared to switch them on.

if they are switched on, and our planes are engaged, then we will take that as direct action against the coalition and we will respond to defend our aircraft.

it would be bye bye S400s. And we will use Russia's radar to guide our missiles right on top of them. We won't lose a single aircraft.

And then you woke up in a puddle of urine…