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[Piratis]

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[Viewpoint]

Piratis you are being very bloody minded and very unflexible, i say we are both to blame you say im apportioning blame to gain what i want. Im trying to not lay blame on either side only saying that today is the result of what we did in the past.

Im saying the only way we can move towards what you want is through negotiations u say reluctantly sure but we have to give equally what we take but if we can agree we go back to 1960. Well piratis dont you think giving and taking issues of the same magnitude will be very difficult who will decide what matches what?

Your approach is lacking in many areas of compromise and flexiblity, your saying its my way or the highway, well with that attitude we have no option but to take the highway as you dismiss everything we raise as you know best and we know nothing. Your mind is clearly made up Piratis and no amount of logical arguement will not change your mind, I feel I am wasting my time as you do not want to hear or accept what the other side has to say.

Goodluck, we deserve partition.

[Piratis]

Piratis you are being very bloody minded

What part of what I said is "bloody"? The human rights part, the democracy part, the equality without racist discrimination part? What did I say that was "bloody minded"?

Who are bloody minded are the ones who use force and are ready to shoot and kill anybody that tried to return to his own home. Thats you, not me.

i say we are both to blame you say im apportioning blame to gain what i want.

Ok Viewpoint. In 1960 we made an agreement. If both are to blame then how come what you suggest is punishing the Greek Cypriots only by taking away from them and giving much more to the TCs??

Well piratis dont you think giving and taking issues of the same magnitude will be very difficult who will decide what matches what?

Both. One example: In 1960 agreements you had veto powers in several matters, but not a federal state. If you want a federal state, you can give in return the veto. How about that? If you don't agree, then we are left with 1960 agreements which was a compromise to begin with.

Apparently for you though negotiations is just for us to give and for you to take. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

Your approach is lacking in many areas of compromise and flexiblity, your saying its my way or the highway

No, what I am saying is "A solution should be based on human rights and democracy otherwise it is not a solution". What you say is "either you accept what we demand or we continue the illegal occupation".

Your mind is clearly made up Piratis and no amount of logical arguement will not change your mind, I feel I am wasting my time as you do not want to hear or accept what the other side has to say.

Where was your logical argument. I am still waiting to hear your logical argument against democracy, against human rights, against the right for people to return to their own homes. Where is it?

[kythrea]

It's amazing how most people here are blaming everyone but themselves for the situation........

You can't solve disputes by constantly throwing blame and accusations at the other side, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you have a chance....

Good luck

Hi tcklim

I think it's worth dwelling on the issue of 'blame', as it is often raised as a roadblock to reconciliation between the two communities.

To blame someone for something is simply to accuse them of being at fault. It is not justified to blame someone who is not at fault, but people often do the wrong thing and when they do it is appropriate to apportion blame.

For example, if someone deliberately and maliciously burns down your house, it is perfectly appropriate to 'blame' that person for the destruction of your property. You wouldn't just say 'never mind, there's no blame here' and allow them to escape punishment. Justice demands that they are brought to account for their actions.

Turkey has been found to be in violation of the human rights of GC refugees by the European Court of Human Rights (and in at least one case also the violation of the human rights of a TC). Therefore, Turkey is at fault for these violations, and it is appropriate to blame Turkey for these violations.

When GC refugees assert their human rights, it is not some vague claim that we have plucked out of the air to torment our TC compatriots. Nor, when GCs complain that our rights continue to be violated by Turkey, are we making spurious accusations of fault against individual Turks or TCs out of historical enmity or racism (this is a myth perpetuated by those who do not wish to see the two communities re-unite).

Human rights are internationally recognised legal norms that should pertain in all civilised communities – we are all diminished when we do not respect them. GCs are not looking for scapegoats for our misfortunes. we are simply demanding what every other European citizen is entitled to by law.

[tcklim]

Look, no matter how much you go on about human rights and legality the bottom line is it will never get you anywhere and the EU leverage game which the GC-side so optimistically counted on is simply not going to work.

You have to understand WHY Turkey did what it did and what portion of their actions the GC side was to blame for. While the occupation is illegal, you cannot realistically expect Turkish troops to get up and leave tomorrow because you keep telling them that. It is nnootttt going to work. You have to try to UNDERSTAND the other sides in my opinions very justified concerns. The only reason they are demanding what they are demanding is for security, which the past has taught them is very unreliable living interlaced with GC's. No person will give up the safety of their families to have embargoes lifted or to give homes back to others, as bad as that sounds. I do not justify the displacement and killing of innocents that occurred as a result of the invasion, and I was previously anti-TC views as well (after being taught in GC schools) but much later on I have seen the bigger picture, you should try that too...

Instead of constantly throwing the SAME OLD THING that is constantly repeated on every single thread no matter what the topic about legality and human rights and what fascinating everyone seems to know the "majority of TC's" want, how about trying to think a little to how to build trust and ferment friendship. If you don't want TC's to insist on the 50/50 thing, then show them why they don't need to! Build friendships, build bridges, find a way to become closer to the other side without spewing out insults and names! I have a great TC friend over in the South and he still faces difficult times just because of his name. Nevermind the fact that he speaks greek perfectly, he faces discrimination in trying to get a job, at work itself and most of all the in the government ministries whenever trying to do even menial paperwork! Why would a TC want to come to this evnironment where they are treated as second-class???? Would you???? Hell the TC leader gives Tassos a christmas card and Tassos goes on a media campaign lambasting him as playing political games..... what the hell.... any gesture the TC's make is met with a hostile response. If I was a TC (and try placing yourself in their shoes), I would seriously doubt GC intentions.

Now whatever I say I always get the same response so I don't know why i bother, I think this shall be my last attempt.... but I just say, in my opinion, if you want a solution stop being stubborn and contradicting yourself, such as blaming the world for your problems, not making a single effort to try resolve the problem locally through trust and friendship building actions, but instead insisting that the UN and EU do all the work for you then rejecting what they come up with and blaming them for your problems yet again.... it's sad...

Flame away

[Piratis]

You have to understand WHY Turkey did what it did

You mean to understand the reason or the excuse? Don't worry, we understand both.

While the occupation is illegal, you cannot realistically expect Turkish troops to get up and leave tomorrow because you keep telling them that. It is nnootttt going to work.

You didn't tell us anything new. The occupation will end only when Turkey is forced to end it. Anything else is nnootttt going to work.

You have to try to UNDERSTAND the other sides in my opinions very justified concerns.

Nobody said they didn't have justified concerns. What it is not justified are their actions. If you have a justified concern that you might get killed in a traffic accident because you had an accident in the past, this doesn't give you the right to exterminate all other drivers.

The only reason they are demanding what they are demanding is for security, which the past has taught them is very unreliable living interlaced with GC's.

Really? So when this 18% demands land of 37% or 29% they do it for security ah?

Any security concerns could be dealt in ways that are compatible with democracy and human rights. Performing ethnic cleansing is not the way to solve this problem. Otherwise ethnically cleansing the TCs and sending them to Turkey would also be a valid option for ensuring their security, right?

Instead of constantly throwing the SAME OLD THING that is constantly repeated on every single thread no matter what the topic about legality and human rights

You know this is the Cyprus Problem forum. The illegality and the violations of our human problems is THE problem for us. If the solution of the Cyprus problem has nothing to do with the problem of the great majority of Cypriots, then what kind of "solution" are we talking about?

how about trying to think a little to how to build trust and ferment friendship.

One question: Is abandoning our human and legal rights a prerequisite for this friendship?

Why would a TC want to come to this evnironment where they are treated as second-class?

They are not treated as second class. They are treated as the ones who support a 40.000 illegal occupation army.

Now whatever I say I always get the same response so I don't know why i bother, I think this shall be my last attempt.... but I just say, in my opinion, if you want a solution stop being stubborn and contradicting yourself, such as blaming the world for your problems, not making a single effort to try resolve the problem locally through trust and friendship building actions, but instead insisting that the UN and EU do all the work for you then rejecting what they come up with and blaming them for your problems yet again.... it's sad...

The problem would have never existed if Cypriots were left alone to decide about their own future, constitution etc in a democratic way. The foreigners have their troops, made our constitution, do whatever they feel like in Cyprus and we have never been allowed to decide anything important for our own island.

If I forced on you the way your family should function and your family broke up, wouldn't you blame me?

We are more than ready to take the whole responsibility for our own island. Will they let us take the decisions?

[Viewpoint]

Piratis I cannot change you becasue you do not want to understand our viewpoint but I will try to answer your barrage of bloodimindness that does nto allow you to see that we are really thinking along the same lines but the vechile we take to get to the end result is different.

What part of what I said is "bloody"? The human rights part, the democracy part, the equality without racist discrimination part? What did I say that was "bloody minded"?

Let me take a radical step forward because obviously you have no vision or desire to solve anything.
What if I said to you I agree with you I to want human rights and a return to legal status? so please register this in your brain dont just ignore it.

Who are bloody minded are the ones who use force and are ready to shoot and kill anybody that tried to return to his own home. Thats you, not me.

I to want as refugees to return and get their rights back to their properties.

Ok Viewpoint. In 1960 we made an agreement. If both are to blame then how come what you suggest is punishing the Greek Cypriots only by taking away from them and giving much more to the TCs??

The 1960 agreements did not work with us in them for many reasons, for the last 42 years they have been yours.
What am I suggesting that will take away from you??? the sharing of power?? please tell me. No one wants to punish anyone get that out of your mind, TCs have past that a long time ago but Im not 100% sure about GCs.

Both. One example: In 1960 agreements you had veto powers in several matters, but not a federal state. If you want a federal state, you can give in return the veto. How about that? If you don't agree, then we are left with 1960 agreements which was a compromise to begin with.

Then surely you to are saying that we have to negotiate the best balance for our country? The 1960 agreements didnt work we have to negotiate something new that will be acceptable to both of us.

No, what I am saying is "A solution should be based on human rights and democracy otherwise it is not a solution". What you say is "either you accept what we demand or we continue the illegal occupation".

What Im saying is very clear if you took a few minutes to think about it, we to want what you want but if we are unable to agree a plan then what do we do? We have a very good example before us the Annan plan you didnt want it for many reasons which we all know so we were unable to solve the Cyprus issue. We could also say the GCs say if you do not accept our demands we will keep you isolated.

Where was your logical argument. I am still waiting to hear your logical argument against democracy, against human rights, against the right for people to return to their own homes. Where is it?

My logical arguements imho are that we are 2 equal communites and that we have to accept the realities of our past and the current situation. If we have the desire to reunite under a united Cyprus then we have to negotiate a plan that will incorporate human rights and legality. Its no good just saying lets just go back to 1960 and get rid of the army and let all refugees return this aint gonna happen, we lost that chance a long time ago, the sooner people like Piatis wake up to this fact the sooner we will move anywhere near a solution. It is this bloodimindedness (on both sides) that fuels the current situation. Whats needed now are leaders that can sit down and workout how we get rid of the army, settlers and how refugees can return and how we can live and work together, isnt that what GCs want?

[tcklim]

You mean to understand the reason or the excuse? Don't worry, we understand both.

You apparently don't seem to... because there is no framework or attempt to create a framework or atmosphere that would prevent a recurrence of the problems after reunification

You didn't tell us anything new. The occupation will end only when Turkey is forced to end it. Anything else is nnootttt going to work.

Of course the occupation will only end when Turkish troops leave, what i said wa you can't expect them to just do this unilaterally tomorrow... there has to be a process and talks between the communities to reach this. The fact you are trying to force Turkey to end it without easing security concerns prevents any realistic framework or justification for them to do it.

Nobody said they didn't have justified concerns. What it is not justified are their actions. If you have a justified concern that you might get killed in a traffic accident because you had an accident in the past, this doesn't give you the right to exterminate all other drivers.

What actions? Are you talking about the past again? Stop babying around by comparing a traffic accident to the Cyprus problem, that is irrelevant. If you don't want to die in a traffic accident, drive more carefully. There is a method to minimize that risk. The risk of TCs being persecuted after a solution has not even attempted to be minimized.

Really? So when this 18% demands land of 37% or 29% they do it for security ah?

Uhh yes? First of all.... if the Turks occupied 18% of the land would that be perfectly fine for you? If so.... then your previous arguments are contradicted and you don't give a crap about human rights. Of course, that is not the case.... and as was mentioned in another post, TC's owned more than 18% of the land itself. I don't know why the Turks occupied exactly 37% but that is not the point anyway.

Any security concerns could be dealt in ways that are compatible with democracy and human rights. Performing ethnic cleansing is not the way to solve this problem. Otherwise ethnically cleansing the TCs and sending them to Turkey would also be a valid option for ensuring their security, right?

Look man the problem is the situation right now, the ethnic cleansing has been attempted by both sides. i KNOW THE GC'S ARE STILL DEPRIVED OF THE HUMAN RIGHT TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTIES, not to mention the missing persons, I am not justifying these past actions, but there was actions on both sides and both sides acted in the barbarian way you speak of so fondly... ethnically cleansing TC's has already been attempted by the GC side, and don't forget there are TC's displaced from the North, and you have to accept that TC's are Cypriots.... your focus on your sides problems only blinds you and you and leaders like you have not and will never be able to find a solution at this rate.

You know this is the Cyprus Problem forum. The illegality and the violations of our human problems is THE problem for us. If the solution of the Cyprus problem has nothing to do with the problem of the great majority of Cypriots, then what kind of "solution" are we talking about?

No my friend, that is PART of the Cyprus problem and from the GC perspective.... there are 2 sides to every story and the Cyprus Problem from the TC perspective I would venture is different. It is finding a solution where 2 communities can coexist peacefully, inharmony, without racist and discriminatory barriers. And NO do not start on a tirade about how TC's are the racists because of their occupation. It is because of racism that the whole damn mess started to begin with. Your view of the Cyprus problem is limited to GC's only, and if you can't accept it extends to both sides then the problem cannot be solved.

One question: Is abandoning our human and legal rights a prerequisite for this friendship?

I never said it was.... but why would the TC's accept a solution that deprives THEM of their human rights by being treated as second-class citizens in their own country? Everyone has to achieve human rights but this will not be done just by turkey withdrawing and expecting everything to be rosy and perfect, because without a single doubt, the TC's will be discriminated against with this solution in the current climate. If you BUILD FRIENDSHIP AND TRUST, then a single country forming is possible, because TCs would not have to worry about this.

They are not treated as second class. They are treated as the ones who support a 40.000 illegal occupation army.

So you basically admit they are treated even below second-class.... nevermind the fact that my friend and most TC's had no part whatsoever in deciding to invade, and im talking about TC's living inthe SOuth btw.... and even the North but I don't know any of them personally. Eitherwaym, you basically just told them that yes, they will be treated like dirt over here.... great way to reassure them.... the definition of reconciliation is lost on you.

The problem would have never existed if Cypriots were left alone to decide about their own future, constitution etc in a democratic way. The foreigners have their troops, made our constitution, do whatever they feel like in Cyprus and we have never been allowed to decide anything important for our own island.

You have control now, forget about the British, the Ottomans and every other Empire building nation the Earth was littered with in the past. You have control NOW to try and solve the problem yourself. And if you don't want foreign intervention now, stop asking for it repeatedly because that its what you did and the solution didnt work and now you're blaming the people you asked for help....

If I forced on you the way your family should function and your family broke up, wouldn't you blame me?

No... I would blame my family for following your idiotic ways probably.... but whats in the past is in the past, and I'd take measures to direct my own family instead of letting you trample all over them .... not go ask someone else to fix it for me.

We are more than ready to take the whole responsibility for our own island. Will they let us take the decisions?

Yes yes and yes.... if you bother trying to come up with a solution. Don't forget when the GC's rejected the Annan plan and Annan kindly requested them to voice what their opposition was, Tassos got all aggressive and refused to hand in in writing what exactly he didn't approve of..... keep in mind Tasso splayed a part in engotiating the Annan plan itself... there is a hidden agenda it appears

[Piratis]

Piratis I cannot change you becasue you do not want to understand our viewpoint but I will try to answer your barrage of bloodimindness that does nto allow you to see that we are really thinking along the same lines but the vechile we take to get to the end result is different.

What part of what I said is "bloody"? The human rights part, the democracy part, the equality without racist discrimination part? What did I say that was "bloody minded"?

Let me take a radical step forward because obviously you have no vision or desire to solve anything.
What if I said to you I agree with you I to want human rights and a return to legal status? so please register this in your brain dont just ignore it.

I asked you to tell me what from what I said was "bloody". What did you do? You throw empty accusations of "bloodimindness" again without explaining why. I know you hate me because I ask for our human rights and the land that you stole from us, but this is not a reason to accuse me of "bloodimindness".

Who are bloody minded are the ones who use force and are ready to shoot and kill anybody that tried to return to his own home. Thats you, not me.

I to want as refugees to return and get their rights back to their properties.

If this is the case then why do you try in negotiations to limit their number as much as possible? Do you disagree with the policy that your leadership had so far?

Ok Viewpoint. In 1960 we made an agreement. If both are to blame then how come what you suggest is punishing the Greek Cypriots only by taking away from them and giving much more to the TCs??

The 1960 agreements did not work with us in them for many reasons, for the last 42 years they have been yours.

The agreements have not been "ours" since there is no part in the agreements for 1/3rd of Cyprus occupied by Turkey and for ethnic cleansing. Have it ever passed your mind that those agreements didn't work because TCs were given way more than any other minority in the world and that if a change should be made to make them workable it should be one that will give to the Turkish Cypriot minority what is given to the minorities of all other democratic countries?

What am I suggesting that will take away from you??? the sharing of power?? please tell me. No one wants to punish anyone get that out of your mind, TCs have past that a long time ago but Im not 100% sure about GCs.

TCs insist on violating the human rights and punishing Greek Cypriots by insisting on the illegality as we speak, right at this very moment.
Did you have a federal state in the 1960 agreements? Did you have a power share of the degree that you demand now? You take more that had in the 1960 agreements that were already too much for your 18% minority. What do we take in return is the violations of our human and democratic rights and nothing else.

Both. One example: In 1960 agreements you had veto powers in several matters, but not a federal state. If you want a federal state, you can give in return the veto. How about that? If you don't agree, then we are left with 1960 agreements which was a compromise to begin with.

Then surely you to are saying that we have to negotiate the best balance for our country? The 1960 agreements didnt work we have to negotiate something new that will be acceptable to both of us.

Lets negotiate. Do you accept the proposal I made above? Or you will confirm that in fact you only want to take while we only give?

No, what I am saying is "A solution should be based on human rights and democracy otherwise it is not a solution". What you say is "either you accept what we demand or we continue the illegal occupation".

What Im saying is very clear if you took a few minutes to think about it, we to want what you want but if we are unable to agree a plan then what do we do? We have a very good example before us the Annan plan you didnt want it for many reasons which we all know so we were unable to solve the Cyprus issue. We could also say the GCs say if you do not accept our demands we will keep you isolated.

If you wanted what we wanted then you wouldn't accept the Annan partition plan either due to the violations of the human and democratic rights of people.
If we both want the return of all refugees, the respect of the human rights of everyone, and equality without racism among all Cypriots, then this matters should be beyond negotiation. You negotiate things that there is a disagreement. Not things that we agree. The fact is that those things were negotiated because you simply didn't want them. You tried to limit the right of return and the human rights of Greek Cypriots as much as possible. On the other hand, we asked for no restriction on your human and democratic rights.

Where was your logical argument. I am still waiting to hear your logical argument against democracy, against human rights, against the right for people to return to their own homes. Where is it?

My logical arguements imho are that we are 2 equal communites and that we have to accept the realities of our past and the current situation. If we have the desire to reunite under a united Cyprus then we have to negotiate a plan that will incorporate human rights and legality. Its no good just saying lets just go back to 1960 and get rid of the army and let all refugees return this aint gonna happen, we lost that chance a long time ago, the sooner people like Piatis wake up to this fact the sooner we will move anywhere near a solution. It is this bloodimindedness (on both sides) that fuels the current situation. Whats needed now are leaders that can sit down and workout how we get rid of the army, settlers and how refugees can return and how we can live and work together, isnt that what GCs want?

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In democratic countries there are equal citizens. Not citizens that have 4.5 times more voting power that the rest because they belong to an "elite" race/community.
You just say that the leaders should negotiate but you don't tell us your opinion of how the human and democratic rights of all Cypriots will be respected.
If you disagree with the policies of Turkey and your leadership, that so far were negotiating hard to limit our human and democratic rights as much as possible then say it, and tell us your opinion.

[Piratis]

You apparently don't seem to... because there is no framework or attempt to create a framework or atmosphere that would prevent a recurrence of the problems after reunification

And what should this framework be according to you?
For me this framework is democracy, respect of human rights of everybody, equality of all people regardless of their race, religion, language etc, laws that are enforced, the EU acquis, and our EU membership.
Can you please propose a better framework?

Of course the occupation will only end when Turkish troops leave, what i said wa you can't expect them to just do this unilaterally tomorrow... there has to be a process and talks between the communities to reach this. The fact you are trying to force Turkey to end it without easing security concerns prevents any realistic framework or justification for them to do it.

Turkey has strategic interests in Cyprus. They were demanding the whole or part of Cyprus since the day they lost it to the British.

Security can be achieved in ways that will not violate the human and democratic rights of others. In fact an environment were the human rights of large part of the population are violated would definitely not create a stable and a secure environment for anybody.

What actions? Are you talking about the past again? Stop babying around by comparing a traffic accident to the Cyprus problem, that is irrelevant. If you don't want to die in a traffic accident, drive more carefully.

The occupation and the violations of our human rights are happening right now, not in the past. What was in the past are the selectively chosen events that the Turks use in order to violate our human rights today.

There is a method to minimize that risk. The risk of TCs being persecuted after a solution has not even attempted to be minimized.

Why don't you tell us of this method? As I said above, a democratic state were the human rights of everybody are respected without racist discriminations is the best method in my opinion.

Also why do you refer only about TCs? Don't we also have to make sure that GCs are not prosecuted either? If the TCs were prosecuted in 1% of our common history, GCs were prosecuted in the 99%. So why you are so concerned with TCs and not with GCs? Is it maybe because unlike the TCs who have the "weak" Turkey behind them, we GCs are so powerful that would be easier for us to prosecute others?

Uhh yes? First of all.... if the Turks occupied 18% of the land would that be perfectly fine for you?

No. You said that what TCs demand, demand it for security. The question was why then do they demand to keep what they stole from us? You didn't answer this question.

and as was mentioned in another post, TC's owned more than 18% of the land itself.

As it was mentioned by whom?. Here is the table presented by Kifeas in another thread:


But I guess you take for granted what the TCs say only, right? You said you were not a TC. What are you? You obviously take their side even when they are obviously wrong. Why is it?

Look man the problem is the situation right now, the ethnic cleansing has been attempted by both sides.

You are wrong. We have NEVER claimed the TC land as our own. The TCs went into enclaves in 63-64 because of the conflict and they have returned in 1968. What we are asking is simply that we are allowed to return to our homes as well. Why do you have to give lame excuses against this very basic human right of peopel?

No my friend, that is PART of the Cyprus problem and from the GC perspective.... there are 2 sides to every story and the Cyprus Problem from the TC perspective I would venture is different. It is finding a solution where 2 communities can coexist peacefully, inharmony, without racist and discriminatory barriers.

And who objected to "a solution where 2 communities can coexist peacefully, inharmony, without racist and discriminatory barriers"? In fact this is what I ask for all the time.

I never said it was.... but why would the TC's accept a solution that deprives THEM of their human rights by being treated as second-class citizens in their own country?

I never said they should. And I never asked for ANY of their human rights to be violated. How will any of their human rights be violated if what we will have is a democratic country with respect of human rights and a constitution like the one of any other EU country (the choice is yours)?

So you basically admit they are treated even below second-class.... nevermind the fact that my friend and most TC's had no part whatsoever in deciding to invade, and im talking about TC's living inthe SOuth btw.... and even the North but I don't know any of them personally. Eitherwaym, you basically just told them that yes, they will be treated like dirt over here.... great way to reassure them.... the definition of reconciliation is lost on you.

You are wrong again. We don't even need to go to TCs, lets take you as an example. You loudly excuse the occupation of our country and the violations of our human rights. As you said you are from Limassol. Why should a Greek Cypriot like you, give you job etc, when you don't even show respect to our basic human rights?

You have control now

We do not. What we have is a Turkish occupation, British military bases etc. To have control means that all Cypriots in a democratic way decide a plan for Cyprus and then have the power to enforce it without even asking Turkey, UK etc. This is obviously not the case now and it has never been.

No... I would blame my family for following your idiotic ways probably

That would be the case if you could disallow my idiotic ways. Was this chance given to us? No. We were forced to follow whatever idiotic the big powers wanted. If we didn't want to follow it, they simply forced it on us.

Yes yes and yes.... if you bother trying to come up with a solution. Don't forget when the GC's rejected the Annan plan and Annan kindly requested them to voice what their opposition was, Tassos got all aggressive and refused to hand in in writing what exactly he didn't approve of..... keep in mind Tasso splayed a part in engotiating the Annan plan itself... there is a hidden agenda it appears

The UN by proposing the Annan partition plan, that goes against their own principles, showed for once more that they have no power or will to go against the American interests. The Annan plan was tailored to the needs of Turkey, totally disregarding even our basic human rights.

Tassos knows that the only way the occupation will end is if Turkey will be forced to do it. He is working on that direction. Of course we are the weak side, and we don't have any illusions. However trying in the correct direction rather than just wasting our time is the wise thing to do.