Cyprus-Forum.com

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

No one has condoned any such thing, either with respect to Cyprus or anyone else.

If they condoned Turkey's actions in Cyprus, then Cyprus would be screwed literally and the partition would be recognized.

No one does anything to undermine the UNHRC, Geneva Convention or UN Charter.

It is you guys who seemingly support that.

Are you serious? Look at your posts, every single one paints the US and your coalition as above and unaccountable to International Law, including the Geneva Convention and UNSC Resolutions. Look in the mirror my friend and you will see the war criminal supporter and will be able to see the War Criminals in his eyes.

It is you guys who are supporting a direct conflict between the Coalition and Russia. The risks of this are increasing. It is only a matter of time potentially the way things are going.

How on earth do you manage to come to that conclusion? Except for you, I think it would be true to say that most members can see the real criminals. It is the coalition that is making all the threats .... as they invariably do ...... Russia came to the aid of Assad (The legally elected President and government of Syria) to help him counter a foreign insurgency, supported by the US and their coalition. EVERYTHING Putin has done in Syria has been legal, which is more than can be said for the US coalition.

All that is necessary now is for Assad to begin an assault on the Kurds.

Eventually, if they are on Syrian soil he has that right. IMO: I think Assad will throw the Turks out of Syria first, with the help of the Kurds and maybe Russia and then could do a ‘land’ deal with the Kurds. One thing is for sure he won’t need YOUR help and the Kurds will not accept US interference anyway, they have already made that very clear.

The UN is unable to solve any problems. They are compromised and toothless. Everyone wants America to do that but that isn't their job.

The UN is little more than a mouth piece for the US and Israel and should be replaced with a truly independent organisation. At the moment it is an organisation run by five permanent members of the UNSC .... all with a veto. That alone makes the organisation unworkable and thus useless.

The World is sick to the back teeth of the US and its Allies bombing and destroying whole countries in their path to the New American Empire, let alone the millions they have killed, injured, impoverished and turned into refugees and displaced people. The World is also sick to death of the unquestioning support the US gives to Israel to commit a mountain of war crimes.

And it is even more compromised now that it is ok to commit War Crimes with impunity. Turkey like Russia can basically say fuck off to everyone and anyone and point to Pootin for setting all the precedence it needs.

Turkey takes its lead from the US attitude to international law. The ones committing war crimes daily and all provable, is the US and its coalition, although of course you cannot relate that to your attitude of .....”We are the coalition and we can do what we like because we say so and we decide what is right, what is wrong and who is legitimate or not!”

Wake up man .... you are living in a parallel universe and are completely out of touch with reality.

[B25]

For my friend Paphiti:

http://yournewswire.com/hillary-clinton ... overnment/

[Robin Hood]

For my friend Paphiti:

http://yournewswire.com/hillary-clinton ... overnment/

Interesting, but sadly won't be read by Paphitis ........ he only scans the headlines to make is judgements...... the detail is an inconvenience! He will declare this as nothing more than Russian Propaganda .... whether the source is Russian or not!

[miltiades]

Paphitis:

No one has condoned any such thing, either with respect to Cyprus or anyone else.

If they condoned Turkey's actions in Cyprus, then Cyprus would be screwed literally and the partition would be recognized.

No one does anything to undermine the UNHRC, Geneva Convention or UN Charter.

It is you guys who seemingly support that.

Are you serious? Look at your posts, every single one paints the US and your coalition as above and unaccountable to International Law, including the Geneva Convention and UNSC Resolutions. Look in the mirror my friend and you will see the war criminal supporter and will be able to see the War Criminals in his eyes.

It is you guys who are supporting a direct conflict between the Coalition and Russia. The risks of this are increasing. It is only a matter of time potentially the way things are going.

How on earth do you manage to come to that conclusion? Except for you, I think it would be true to say that most members can see the real criminals. It is the coalition that is making all the threats .... as they invariably do ...... Russia came to the aid of Assad (The legally elected President and government of Syria) to help him counter a foreign insurgency, supported by the US and their coalition. EVERYTHING Putin has done in Syria has been legal, which is more than can be said for the US coalition.

All that is necessary now is for Assad to begin an assault on the Kurds.

Eventually, if they are on Syrian soil he has that right. IMO: I think Assad will throw the Turks out of Syria first, with the help of the Kurds and maybe Russia and then could do a ‘land’ deal with the Kurds. One thing is for sure he won’t need YOUR help and the Kurds will not accept US interference anyway, they have already made that very clear.

The UN is unable to solve any problems. They are compromised and toothless. Everyone wants America to do that but that isn't their job.

The UN is little more than a mouth piece for the US and Israel and should be replaced with a truly independent organisation. At the moment it is an organisation run by five permanent members of the UNSC .... all with a veto. That alone makes the organisation unworkable and thus useless.

The World is sick to the back teeth of the US and its Allies bombing and destroying whole countries in their path to the New American Empire, let alone the millions they have killed, injured, impoverished and turned into refugees and displaced people. The World is also sick to death of the unquestioning support the US gives to Israel to commit a mountain of war crimes.

And it is even more compromised now that it is ok to commit War Crimes with impunity. Turkey like Russia can basically say fuck off to everyone and anyone and point to Pootin for setting all the precedence it needs.

Turkey takes its lead from the US attitude to international law. The ones committing war crimes daily and all provable, is the US and its coalition, although of course you cannot relate that to your attitude of .....”We are the coalition and we can do what we like because we say so and we decide what is right, what is wrong and who is legitimate or not!”

Wake up man .... you are living in a parallel universe and are completely out of touch with reality.

Robin, you agree that all on this forum who comment on the war in Syria, are merely observers. Neither you, I or Paphitis can possibly have the minutest influence on the Syrian conflict. Paphitis appears to have made this whole affair into a personal matter, he obviously must know that he has not one iota of influence on the current situation. The coalition is wrong , the aims are wrong, Paphitis appears to give the impression that he is somewhat involved in the conflict, of course he is no mre involve that either you , I OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM.

This dreadful war must come to an end and the coalition must understand that their involvement is prolonging this wretched war.

Paphitis has the right to express his views but he is deluding himself in making this into a personal war by the persistent usage of personalised statements ie We, etc etc. None of us can influence the slightest by the outcome of this conflict.

[Robin Hood]

Miltiades:

Robin, you agree that all on this forum who comment on the war in Syria, are merely observers. Neither you, I or Paphitis can possibly have the minutest influence on the Syrian conflict. Paphitis appears to have made this whole affair into a personal matter, he obviously must know that he has not one iota of influence on the current situation. The coalition is wrong , the aims are wrong, Paphitis appears to give the impression that he is somewhat involved in the conflict, of course he is no more involved than either you , I OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM

.
Absolutely correct, but is not the mere fact we exchange views on here creating a greater awareness of what is being done in our name? Maybe in a small way we do influence what goes on in Syria or say, even the banking system. If you shut down all the sites that express a view different to that of the main stream, because they can’t influence events, then we would only be aware of what a few powerful people/organisations want us to believe. We would only find out when it was too late ..... Iraq/Bush/Blair springs to mind and WMD ...... but back then this form of cross communication between individuals was in its infancy.

We now have access to enormous amounts of information and we need to exercise some common sense when we read it ....... personally, I tend to question everything, to me any story has to have links and references that support the argument .... it is up to the individual to analyse what they read and apply common sense to determine the degree of probability of the information being credible.

This dreadful war must come to an end and the coalition must understand that their involvement is prolonging this wretched war.

I agree with you and there is a ground swell of ordinary people that are beginning to realize that too and that The West does not always get it right or do the right thing. Why? Because of forums like this! They sure as hell don’t get anything near the truth from the Media or even the full story.

Paphitis has the right to express his views but he is deluding himself in making this into a personal war by the persistent usage of personalised statements ie We, etc etc. None of us can influence the slightest by the outcome of this conflict.

Of course Paphitis has a right to express his views but he would be accepted as more rational in his views if he revealed his sources and stopped trying to convince us that he is running the show and that our views are nothing more than propaganda spewed out by Russia. The use of the first person actually makes his views less credible and smacks of arrogance in the extreme but that seems to be the way he likes to express his opinion.

I like to think that in a small way we do add to awareness of the subjects we cover in our posts. But then I am a born optimist!

[Paphitis]

For my friend Paphiti:

http://yournewswire.com/hillary-clinton ... overnment/

They mention a video but they did not include the video. Why?

It's bullshit obviously. The least they can do is show us the video where she is alleged to have said this.

And I guarantee you, the reason why they don't post the video is because she actually said that the US contributed to the rise of DAESH in Iraq which is actually true. They did not create DAESH.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

No one has condoned any such thing, either with respect to Cyprus or anyone else.

If they condoned Turkey's actions in Cyprus, then Cyprus would be screwed literally and the partition would be recognized.

No one does anything to undermine the UNHRC, Geneva Convention or UN Charter.

It is you guys who seemingly support that.

Are you serious? Look at your posts, every single one paints the US and your coalition as above and unaccountable to International Law, including the Geneva Convention and UNSC Resolutions. Look in the mirror my friend and you will see the war criminal supporter and will be able to see the War Criminals in his eyes.

It is you guys who are supporting a direct conflict between the Coalition and Russia. The risks of this are increasing. It is only a matter of time potentially the way things are going.

How on earth do you manage to come to that conclusion? Except for you, I think it would be true to say that most members can see the real criminals. It is the coalition that is making all the threats .... as they invariably do ...... Russia came to the aid of Assad (The legally elected President and government of Syria) to help him counter a foreign insurgency, supported by the US and their coalition. EVERYTHING Putin has done in Syria has been legal, which is more than can be said for the US coalition.

All that is necessary now is for Assad to begin an assault on the Kurds.

Eventually, if they are on Syrian soil he has that right. IMO: I think Assad will throw the Turks out of Syria first, with the help of the Kurds and maybe Russia and then could do a ‘land’ deal with the Kurds. One thing is for sure he won’t need YOUR help and the Kurds will not accept US interference anyway, they have already made that very clear.

The UN is unable to solve any problems. They are compromised and toothless. Everyone wants America to do that but that isn't their job.

The UN is little more than a mouth piece for the US and Israel and should be replaced with a truly independent organisation. At the moment it is an organisation run by five permanent members of the UNSC .... all with a veto. That alone makes the organisation unworkable and thus useless.

The World is sick to the back teeth of the US and its Allies bombing and destroying whole countries in their path to the New American Empire, let alone the millions they have killed, injured, impoverished and turned into refugees and displaced people. The World is also sick to death of the unquestioning support the US gives to Israel to commit a mountain of war crimes.

And it is even more compromised now that it is ok to commit War Crimes with impunity. Turkey like Russia can basically say fuck off to everyone and anyone and point to Pootin for setting all the precedence it needs.

Turkey takes its lead from the US attitude to international law. The ones committing war crimes daily and all provable, is the US and its coalition, although of course you cannot relate that to your attitude of .....”We are the coalition and we can do what we like because we say so and we decide what is right, what is wrong and who is legitimate or not!”

Wake up man .... you are living in a parallel universe and are completely out of touch with reality.

Robin, you agree that all on this forum who comment on the war in Syria, are merely observers. Neither you, I or Paphitis can possibly have the minutest influence on the Syrian conflict. Paphitis appears to have made this whole affair into a personal matter, he obviously must know that he has not one iota of influence on the current situation. The coalition is wrong , the aims are wrong, Paphitis appears to give the impression that he is somewhat involved in the conflict, of course he is no mre involve that either you , I OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM.

This dreadful war must come to an end and the coalition must understand that their involvement is prolonging this wretched war.

Paphitis has the right to express his views but he is deluding himself in making this into a personal war by the persistent usage of personalised statements ie We, etc etc. None of us can influence the slightest by the outcome of this conflict.

The Coalition is already having an influence and sadly for assad, we are in control of a big portion of syria and we will not be leaving.

It also appears that the rebels are not keen to on withdrawing from Aleppo, so the show goes on.

We will be present to record all violations of International law. It looks like your in for the long haul and will need to enter Aleppo and engage the enemy street to street. good Luck with that.

it also appears that most of the regime's forces around aleppo are terrorist organisations. this is a sectarian conflict, and sectarian conflicts don't just die down with the use of force.

basically, you are screwed.

And whilst assad tries to gain the upper hand, his soldiers are killed by the dozens. They have made little progressed because the rebels are well equipped and well drilled.

meanwhile, whilst you grabble with this quagmire, the Kurds are consolidating their territorial gains.

This is a personal matter for me. The Coalition includes substantial Australian assets flying over Syria daily. War crimes is also something everyone needs to take personally because if these crimes are committed with impunity then there literally is no justice in this world and Turkey can go ahead and take any part of Cyprus with impunity too, as well as Israel, and Russia in Ukraine and South Ossetia.

You can basically throw the rule book into the fire. The rule of law is Governed by the might. And one day, Russia's offer of war with the coalition will be taken up because that is the ONLY way.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

The rest of your post really does not deserve a reply as it is your usual trumpeting of propaganda .... on steroids! But you said one thing ...........

You can basically throw the rule book into the fire. The rule of law is Governed by the might. And one day, Russia's offer of war with the coalition will be taken up because that is the ONLY way.

The US has already discarded the rule book by declaring themselves exceptional! This means they consider themselves beyond International Laws (all of them) and by association the same applies to their allies.

Yes ....... you do rely upon your military superiority to impose your will on others, as all bullies do ....... until they are confronted by someone who can defeat them and will call their bluff. Then the bully turns to the International Law (which of course does not apply to them) makes a host of wild accusations without a shred of proof and attempts to apply it to their adversary to avoid the face off. You are therefore ALL guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Russia has very diplomatically and quietly (they don't boast or threaten) made every attempt to avoid a conflict with the US, both in the ME and in on their borders with Easter Europe. Not because, as you seem to believe, they are frightened of the US but because unlike the Americans, they have experienced the consequences of war. The US and many EU countries now see war through TV as a sanitising operation that goes on in other countries, will never happen on their soil and their own combatants are there only to keep the peace by carrying out ‘Humanitarian warfare’ (Another US invention!) but that mask is beginning to slip as more people become aware of the US’s intentions and the ever growing and blatantly false propaganda. The people are beginning to wake up!

The UN has a proposal, a good one that will stop the fighting in Aleppo. The Syrian government, Russia and their allies are in favour of this solution as it will allow the terrorists to retreat without surrendering and thus losing face.. The only problem standing in the way of this peaceful solution is the US, their allies and their terrorists, who collectively are not interested i.e. they are not interested in preventing more civilian deaths.

Therefore, with your bounteous support, they will die and take more innocent civilians down with them!

[Paphitis]

That is good! you should cease replying to my posts because I do not recognize the legitimacy of any poster who condones and placates war crimes against innocent people under siege. I do not read any posts of any person who spits on International law just like the Coalition does not recognize the legitimacy or authority of an illegal regime which is committing War Crimes in Aleppo by indiscriminately killing civilians with barrel Bombs and Chlorine Gas.

we will not put any of the rebels in any danger or the civilians they protect by making them surrender to terrorist groups like Hesbollah.

The Coalition will not be making any deals with terrorist organisations like Hezbollah, or with war criminals like Assad.

It can't be anymore basic than that!

Any action against our aircraft will be dealt with very harshly.

[Robin Hood]

That is good! you should cease replying to my posts because I do not recognize the legitimacy of any poster who condones and placates war crimes against innocent people under siege. I do not read any posts of any person who spits on International law just like the Coalition does not recognize the legitimacy or authority of an illegal regime which is committing War Crimes in Aleppo by indiscriminately killing civilians with barrel Bombs and Chlorine Gas.

we will not put any of the rebels in any danger or the civilians they protect by making them surrender to terrorist groups like Hesbollah.

The Coalition will not be making any deals with terrorist organisations like Hezbollah, or with war criminals like Assad.

It can't be anymore basic than that!

Any action against our aircraft will be dealt with very harshly.

Where on earth do you get all your colourful ideas of what is going on in Aleppo and Syria in general? You are at odds with the vast majority of ordinary people. To counter your allegations that I in any way support war crimes let me just say; I most definitely condemn the deliberate killing of civilians and the use of chemical weapons, and that applies not selectively but to all deliberate attacks on civilians by whoever commits the crimes.

I don't think Assad, Russia or the US and its Allies commit such deliberate acts but accidents do happen and unfortunately in war, civilians die. But the US is guilty of aiding and abetting terrorists that do commit such acts and have prolonged the war and the killing by doing so. Simply aiding a foreign 'army' to attack a sovereign state is a war crime ..... and it is fact that the US has been behind events in Syria since before the 'colour revolution' (another Americanism) as they were in Ukraine but you just cast aside all these simple provable facts. This is admitted by the US.

Any action against YOUR aircraft will be if/when Assad declares Syria a no-fly zone, or the US attempts to attack either SAA or Russian 'advisors' in the air or on the ground, as he has every right to do as the elected and internationally recognised leader of the elected government of Syria.

What you seem completely oblivious to is the fact that, in those circumstances, it will be YOU that is the aggressor and any attack on Syrian territory will be an act of war, which under International law the Syrian government has every right to respond to as it will be self defence. Ignore the Law all you want but it will not go away ........ for all your bluster and boasting it is the US coalition that has breached International Law, time and time again, has committed war crimes and a multitude of crimes against humanity.

As I keep repeating .... your accusations are just accusations! I have yet to see a single piece of substantive evidence that says either Assad or Putin have committed war crimes or even crimes against humanity. They are resisting a foreign insurgency that YOU helped initiate, YOU support and YOU supply these terrorists with weapons .... this is war crime!.

You spew out accusations like vomit but never support them with facts ....... just your very clouded and ever so slightly biased opinions! Even the Aleppo flower seller didn't blame Assad or the Russians and neither did his son after the attack that killed his father.

You have a very blinkered view of reality.

BTW: Just after the 'Flower Seller' was the video I posted of the English lady journalist, who reported events directly after returning from Aleppo ......... but there again she didn't quite come to the same conclusion as you ....... so she must be a Kremlin stooge?