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[Schnauzer]

At this time of the year, I get a 'Strange Feeling' (irrespective of where I might be) and the memory of the awful occurrences which took the lives of 3000+ innocent people comes flooding back to my mind.

'ConspiracyTheorists' (a title endowed upon those who are convinced that the whole scenario was a 'Set Piece') are adamant that there are far too many 'Co-incidents' and flaws in most of the explanations surrounding the event to dismiss the 'Theory' that indeed it was.

IF the 'Theorists' are correct in their assumptions, the implications ARE, that the 'Yanks' (together with others) engineered the slaughter of all those innocent people in order to create an excuse for an unlawful and murderous attack upon the innocent nation of Iraq.

IF the 'Theorists' are correct, then 'Saddam Hussein' was an innocent victim of the 'Hanging' which followed his capture.

IF the 'Theorists' are correct, then the 'Excuse' is the 'Catalyst' which has (to date) managed to engineer the deposing of many leaders of other nations and caused the slaughter, maiming and displacement of MILLIONS of innocent victims, may they rest in peace.

IF (on the other hand) there is no substance to the 'Conspiracy Theories', one MUST entertain the thought that there is some compelling reason for WHY the 'Twin Towers' were attacked and , IF there is, what could that reason be ?.

Thus far, there has been no REAL explanation, the blame has been shifted from one leg to the other and the 'Dance' continues.

Therefore, when groups of 'Fighters' rise up in protest at the manner in which the 'Mightier Military Forces' of nations which uphold the ambitions of the 'West', and are prepared to turn a 'Blind Eye' to the activities of 'Israel' and the sufferings of the 'Palestinians', is it any wonder that those 'Fighters' take up arms against that which THEY see to be acts of oppression and conclude 'We're Next' if we do not forcefully resist the advancement of 'Western Ambitions' in OUR nations ?.

A sad situation indeed, countless millions of dollars are spent on military equipment, devices and manpower to slaughter innocent victims of 'Military Campaigns' whilst 'Hunger and Deprivation' prevails in so many parts of the world in which we live.

THAT's MY take on the situation although, I do not rely upon 'Strange Feelings' to prompt me, I 'THINK' about it all the time.

[Paphitis]

Yes but Schwowswereflodafuckenoff needs to understand, is that the Americans could have done a nice little set piece which would only kill up to 100 individuals and not 3000+. This is despite the fact the such a False Flag operation is actually quite impossible to organize even for a Super Power like the USA.

Yes the Americans are pretty good, but sometimes they can't organize a root in a brothel let alone achieve such a Red Flag and expect to get away with it. In addition, Americans aren't even capable to inflict this on their population. It's not in their DNA. If you said that Pootin could do this and kill 3000+ innocent civilians, or Assad, well they have proven that 3000+ innocent civilians is not a problem for them. Chlorine Gas, not a problem. Bomb hospitals, not a problem for the Russians and Assad but very much a problem in our Western Societies where people are actually accountable for their actions.

But as always, this Schwowswereflodafuckenoff is pissing his little 5 year old undies, waiting for mumma to tuck him into bed.

Just another attention seeking thread I'm afraid people.

[Schnauzer]

Yes but Schwowswereflodafuckenoff needs to understand, is that the Americans could have done a nice little set piece which would only kill up to 100 individuals and not 3000+. This is despite the fact the such a False Flag operation is actually quite impossible to organize even for a Super Power like the USA.

Yes the Americans are pretty good, but sometimes they can't organize a root in a brothel let alone achieve such a Red Flag and expect to get away with it. In addition, Americans aren't even capable to inflict this on their population. It's not in their DNA. If you said that Pootin could do this and kill 3000+ innocent civilians, or Assad, well they have proven that 3000+ innocent civilians is not a problem for them. Chlorine Gas, not a problem. Bomb hospitals, not a problem for the Russians and Assad but very much a problem in our Western Societies where people are actually accountable for their actions.

But as always, this Schwowswereflodafuckenoff is pissing his little 5 year old undies, waiting for mumma to tuck him into bed.

Just another attention seeking thread I'm afraid people.

Thanks for the new name 'Cobber', just expressing a view (unbiased of course) on the anniversary of a very terrible event.

NOT subscribing to any particular consensus of opinion BUT, certainly attempting to understand WHY there is so much upheaval in the world in which we live and trying to understand the reasons for WHY so many are willing to lay down their lives for their beliefs.

That's all, no need for abuse and insult I assure you.

[Paphitis]

Yes but Schwowswereflodafuckenoff needs to understand, is that the Americans could have done a nice little set piece which would only kill up to 100 individuals and not 3000+. This is despite the fact the such a False Flag operation is actually quite impossible to organize even for a Super Power like the USA.

Yes the Americans are pretty good, but sometimes they can't organize a root in a brothel let alone achieve such a Red Flag and expect to get away with it. In addition, Americans aren't even capable to inflict this on their population. It's not in their DNA. If you said that Pootin could do this and kill 3000+ innocent civilians, or Assad, well they have proven that 3000+ innocent civilians is not a problem for them. Chlorine Gas, not a problem. Bomb hospitals, not a problem for the Russians and Assad but very much a problem in our Western Societies where people are actually accountable for their actions.

But as always, this Schwowswereflodafuckenoff is pissing his little 5 year old undies, waiting for mumma to tuck him into bed.

Just another attention seeking thread I'm afraid people.

Thanks for the new name 'Cobber', just expressing a view (unbiased of course) on the anniversary of a very terrible event.

NOT subscribing to any particular consensus of opinion BUT, certainly attempting to understand WHY there is so much upheaval in the world in which we live and trying to understand the reasons for WHY so many are willing to lay down their lives for their beliefs.

That's all, no need for abuse and insult I assure you.

Well, if you really want to be FAIR, the 911 attacks were completely unprovoked! Completely unprovoked!

So what they were attacking was America's way of life. There is no other explanation here. They were attacking Western values.

Not just that, but they also attacked a superpower. And that superpower WAS ALWAYS going to hunt Osama Bin Laden down even if it took them 50 years.

[Schnauzer]

Paphitis, you may be absolutely correct in your assumption that the 9/11 attack was directed at the 'American way of life' and I would have to admit that such a motive was a possibility.

Bearing such in mind, one would have to consider the opinion of those who decided that such an horrific action was justified and, the only justification that 'I' can see is that THEY who decided to instigate such an attack, MUST have had a profound reason for it.

Perhaps they were concerned with the 'Influence' the Americans were having (or attempting to have) upon THEIR society and considered such an action necessary to 'Teach a lesson'.

The outcome of their action is now abundantly clear and, whether or not it be fair comment, the aftermath of it has been far more horrendous in terms of human suffering than was probably envisaged

It's only supposition, since we do not know (and probably never will) the TRUTH of the situation, therefore we can only make assessments on that which we have either seen or been informed of and, that which we can all SEE, is a vast movement of dispossessed and suffering humanity the like of which has never been seen before.

Whether it be 'Attack or Retaliate' ....NOTHING can justify the situation that now exists and NOBODY has a real answer for it.

As 'Sir Winston Churchill' famously said :- "The truth is such a precious commodity, it must be protected by a bodyguard of lies!".

Those words were spoken before his knighthood, I often wonder WHY he was knighted, since he let the 'Cat out of the bag'. (imho)

[Zenon33]

RIP to all victims.

[Lordo]

since the attacks on twin towers the americans have killed over a million people in afghanistan iraq and syria alone never mind yemen palastine and north africa.

may all the people who have been killed rest in peace.

[Robin Hood]

Schnauzer:

Thus far, there has been no REAL explanation, the blame has been shifted from one leg to the other and the 'Dance' continues.

You didn’t need the rest of the post, that sums up what we know to a tee ! Very little!

There is an article on the 9/11 events in the Cyprus Mail today ...... when you look at the comments they echo those of Paphitis ...... although without the offensive remarks and gutter language.

Those that believe the biggest conspiracy theory of all, the official explanation, never question the story in spite of all the obvious anomalies but always go onto the offensive and ridicule any other explanation! They just make excuses, quote what they watched on TV or have read in the papers as being 'obvious' . Most have never heard of WTC 7 or ignore it as being irrelevant. They automatically treat any reasoned view based on available evidence with derision and call it a 'conspiracy theory'. They have no other argument, as they cannot reason.

We will know one day ..... but I don’t think anyone who was old enough to remember the events will be around to witness it.

RIP all those that died.

[Paphitis]

There are no anomalies! What hapenned is obvious.

America fell victim to a well planned and excellently executed terrorist attack on a grand scale. No need for America to do a False Flag of this magnitude even if they could because it just isn't necessary to do such a thing if a mere marketplace suicide bombing would suffice to achieve its purpose if that were to justify an invasion of Afghanistan. In addition, I don't believe the American Government would consider attacking its own people in a million years. That's not who they are. They are not some Assad or Pootin War Criminals.

Why did they attack America? I believe I have the answer to that question.

It was an attack on Western Values, on America's way of life, on freedom and so on. There were no real political motives just Al Qaeda flexing its muscle, making a huge statement and sending a very big message that the infidel will never be safe anywhere. America just hapenned to be the biggest target for them to pick.

It wasn't even because they hate Americans. It's just that America is the strongest and considered a bit of a leader of the Western World.

It is the beginning of this war between 2 ideologies. Western Values Vs a rather extreme form of Islamic Ideology that we see even to this day. An ideology that wants a Caliphate. An ideology that probably considers our way of life as worse than demonic and evil against their strict interpretations.

We are all targets not just America until we deal with this ideology.

It's got nothing to do with the Iraq War. This ideology will find vacuums anywhere to exploit and launch their Jihad.

It's not something that the West will easily defeat.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

.............. needs to understand, is that the Americans could have done a nice little set piece which would only kill up to 100 individuals and not 3000+. This is despite the fact the such a False Flag operation is actually quite impossible to organize even for a Super Power like the USA.

BUT ...... a sick old man on dialysis, in a cave on the Afghan/Pakistan border, with no electricity, no telephone, no mobile .......... managed to plan it, organise it and implement it without a Super Power that spends billions on intelligence, even having a hint that there was something in the wind. Takes some believing!

Yes the Americans are pretty good, but sometimes they can't organize a root in a brothel let alone achieve such a Red Flag and expect to get away with it. In addition, Americans aren't even capable to inflict this on their population. It's not in their DNA.

No, not disorganised ...... like you, they are not too good at listening to others.

You are implying they only regard their own lives as sacrosanct .......... other lives are expendable?

Are these different Americans to the ones that bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki; the same Americans that dropped 80m cluster bombs on Laos; destroyed the forests (and people) with Agent Orange (Monsanto) in Vietnam and Cambodia; the same Americans that destroyed Faluja with depleted uranium weapons causing thousands of birth defects and causing high levels of cancer in the population?.......... the list of their acts of murder over the years says that it is very much in their DNA.

If you said that Pootin could do this and kill 3000+ innocent civilians, or Assad, well they have proven that 3000+ innocent civilians is not a problem for them. Chlorine Gas, not a problem. Bomb hospitals, not a problem for the Russians and Assad but very much a problem in our Western Societies where people are actually accountable for their actions.

That’s a joke? Yes? Yes your opinion fits in with the official story but like all these official stories, when it comes to backing it with some evidence ......... either there isn’t any or it paints a different picture.

Just another attention seeking thread I'm afraid people.

Who made you the spokesman for others? Many of us are intelligent enough to come to our own conclusions, we question ..... you don’t!