Get Real! wrote:Atheist wrote:And there is nothing literally "miraculous" about the universe.
Just take your computer back and tell them you’re too fucking stupid to own one!Atheist wrote: "The universe is *there* (visible and tangible) and we are a part of it." Exactly. And "God" is not.
“GOD” is the three letter label we use to identify that which is responsible for the universe being there, so GROW UP for fuck’s sake, and quit acting like an utter jerk you spoiled little shit!Atheist wrote:...then the question is "Who then created God?"
King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
Tim Drayton wrote:Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.
kurupetos wrote: The universe has a beginning and an end, but the force that creates and ends it is infinite.
kurupetos wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.
Perhaps you are just ignorant of the facts. The universe has a beginning and an end, but the force that creates and ends it is infinite.
If you cannot see or understand this force doesn't mean it does not exist.
Tim Drayton wrote:Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.
Atheist wrote:Something that doesn't exist also "does not have a beginning or an end". That is true in both the case of your "God" and "my stupidity". Both are things that exist only in your mind, created to serve your psychological needs. Fortunately you are too stupid to understand this, so you can continue living in blissful ignorance imagining that you are an intelligent person who will go to paradise.
Get Real! wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.
It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.
Look, I don’t have a problem with the idea of an infinite universe; although I was referring to God when I wrote that, in which case the universe itself becomes God!
See how there’s no escape from God… (<-- or whatever label you may choose to use) because it can in a way be the sum of all the magic out there.
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