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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Atheist » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:20 pm

Something that doesn't exist also "does not have a beginning or an end". That is true in both the case of your "God" and "my stupidity". Both are things that exist only in your mind, created to serve your psychological needs. Fortunately you are too stupid to understand this, so you can continue living in blissful ignorance imagining that you are an intelligent person who will go to paradise.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Atheist wrote:And there is nothing literally "miraculous" about the universe.

Just take your computer back and tell them you’re too fucking stupid to own one!

Atheist wrote: "The universe is *there* (visible and tangible) and we are a part of it." Exactly. And "God" is not.

“GOD” is the three letter label we use to identify that which is responsible for the universe being there, so GROW UP for fuck’s sake, and quit acting like an utter jerk you spoiled little shit!

Atheist wrote:...then the question is "Who then created God?"

King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.

Who taught you to read ? Read the Bible stupid !
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.


It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:14 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.


It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.

Perhaps you are just ignorant of the facts. The universe has a beginning and an end, but the force that creates and ends it is infinite.

If you cannot see or understand this force doesn't mean it does not exist.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:25 pm

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Perhaps you are just ignorant
kurupetos wrote: The universe has a beginning and an end, but the force that creates and ends it is infinite.


Who told you this ? The primitive men who wrote the bible ? You really believe that these men were God inspired ? Just go and read all the bullshit they wrote!!
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:26 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.


It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.

Perhaps you are just ignorant of the facts. The universe has a beginning and an end, but the force that creates and ends it is infinite.

If you cannot see or understand this force doesn't mean it does not exist.


Perhaps I am. Who says that the universe has a beginning and end? Where does this 'fact' come from? Even if the universe can be shown to have a beginning and end, this does not mean that the larger natural environment of which it is a part is not infinite. Just because you have been indoctrinated in certain beliefs, this does not make them facts.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:53 pm

Since we are talking about religion, here is a little joke.
Man: You brought religion into my life.
Woman: Really ? How?
Man: Until I met you, I didn't beleive in hell. :lol:
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:05 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.


It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.

Look, I don’t have a problem with the idea of an infinite universe; although I was referring to God when I wrote that, in which case the universe itself becomes God!

See how there’s no escape from God… (<-- or whatever label you may choose to use) because it can in a way be the sum of all the magic out there.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:09 pm

Atheist wrote:Something that doesn't exist also "does not have a beginning or an end". That is true in both the case of your "God" and "my stupidity". Both are things that exist only in your mind, created to serve your psychological needs. Fortunately you are too stupid to understand this, so you can continue living in blissful ignorance imagining that you are an intelligent person who will go to paradise.

Just go kill yourself. Even your parents will probably rejoice! :lol:
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.


It is simply your presumption that the universe had a beginning. Perhaps the universe is infinite, or perhaps the overarching natural environment in which the universe exits, such as a putative multiverse in which individual universes come into being and end, is infinite. This dispenses with the need for myths about a God.

Look, I don’t have a problem with the idea of an infinite universe; although I was referring to God when I wrote that, in which case the universe itself becomes God!

See how there’s no escape from God… (<-- or whatever label you may choose to use) because it can in a way be the sum of all the magic out there.


I realise that you were referring to God and I was turning your logic on its head. Actually, this is something you seem to have told me before. That 'God' is just your word for the universe. That's certainly not the story you get in the so-called holy books.
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