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[Lordo]

you are so simple, gravity determins how much you weigh and it is one of the laws of physics. no matter where you are you will have some weight except in a space craft travelling in the universe then you are weightless as the gravity applying to you is negligible, nobody said it would be the same you stupid arse. you aint got a clue what you are talking about.

I gave you a small taste of your physics going haywire right in your solar neighborhood, let alone traveling to other galaxies or clusters thereof!

reh ama en gadalvis dibbode.

let me lern you a thing.

each planet has a size. the bigger the size the greater gravity that applies on it. the laws are the same except the value of g changes depending on the size. the laws of physics encompas all of that

now thats the end of lesson one.

[GreekIslandGirl]

the universe is governed by the laws of physics dear boy.

Or vice versa.

...well said.

Funny that, I never heard a word BUT, I would dispute both observations since one could not exist without the other.

How do you know?

Maybe we just invent "laws of physics" to explain the universe. Maybe we think there is a "universe" because physics tells us so.

[Lordo]

what are you talking about we can see some of the universe. The physics laws are not invented they found out and proven beyond doubt, they already exist. using these laws they used other plantes' gravity to sling shot spacecraft to go places where we could not possibly go if we used just a craft with earthly fuel. even the stone age people understood the universe better then you so called scientifically educated ignoramuses. the ancient greaks must be turning in their graves because of you lot.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The physics laws are not invented they found out and proven beyond doubt, they already exist.

Not to me they are not.

And, if you're worried about "Greeks turning in their graves", they won't be turning because some of us doubt and question. They'll be turning because the discoveries of Greeks have allowed Turks to think they have offered something to the world. They'll be turning because the classically civilized Greek territories have allowed Turks to set up camp in these venerated places and gain some vicarious human qualities. They'll be turning because these gifts have enabled Turks to further steal properties from Greeks and try and blackmail their way into worldly acceptance.

[Lordo]

your problem is that you live in a self imposed darkness lead by hatred within you. enjoy

[GreekIslandGirl]

your problem is that you live in a self imposed darkness lead by hatred within you. enjoy

And as the great believer in evolution, that you purport to be, shouldn't you accept that not all individuals are created equal? And that some are more violent than others and take what is not theirs. And all that is left for us more reasonable people is to not stand by indifferent to these hawks that try and destroy the doves.

[Lordo]

hang on a moment we are not created, we a produced when a man does the unmentionable to a woman at the correct time of the month. chromosomes then take over half from male and half from female and we do enherit traits not just from our immidieate parents but from our ancestors. for instace the ancient greaks were riddled with greed and invading other peoples land from from spain all the way to india, from north africa to ukraine. the last time they tried that was in cyprus was in 1974 when they attempted to commit genocide by killing all the tcs and taking cyprus. doves they never were and never will be. killing of innocent civilians by the hundred thousands they were good at especially alex the pooffder with his young boys that escorted him to all the murders he committed. but there not the ones turning in their graves it is pythagoras homer and aristotle and perhaps ikarus the arsonist that are turning in their graves.

back to your darkness my dear

in the mean time repeat after me but switch th elights off before you do

force equals mass times acceleration

about a million times should do it.

[Atheist]

Atheism isn’t really an opinion about the existence of God but rather a display of anger at Man’s religion, and I don’t blame them for this anger for Man has used and abused scripture from the very onset, but we must direct this anger at the real culprit which is none other than Man, not the power responsible for the universe.

Now here’s a little test for you that proves that you are NOT an atheist… (tick those that are true or false)

1. The universe is *there* (visible and tangible) and we are a part of it.

2. The universe is phenomenally huge and spectacular… miraculous even!

3. The universe had to have come about and be governed by *something*.

Who can disagree with any of the above simple statements?

They are FACTS after all, so congratulations… at the very least you *are* a pantheist and not an atheist!

Man didn't just "used and abused scripture", Man wrote every single letter in those "scriptures".

As already said, the universe is governed by the laws of physics (and vice versa) and the same laws apply everywhere. If we fully understand those laws is a different question, but we surely understand them better than we did 2000 years ago.

Your "scriptures" supposedly coming from the "manufacturer" didn't provide any new information whatsoever regarding the universe, but they were instead filled with fairytales, most of which have already been debunked.

And there is nothing literally "miraculous" about the universe. There is a popular saying that "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". To paraphrase: "anything we don't understand seems magical". But just because you can't understand something it doesn't mean it is magic. If you don't know how Solar Eclipse works, and you see the sun disappear in the middle of a cloudless day, it might seem magical to you but what seems magical to you doesn't mean that it is literally magical. It just means that you don't understand the real reason something is happening.

Lastly lets take your first point: "The universe is *there* (visible and tangible) and we are a part of it." Exactly. And "God" is not.

If your argument is that "nothing can exist without a creator" then the question is "Who then created God?" As you can see "God" doesn't solve the "nothing can exist without a creator" argument, it just pushes it one step further. So the reason you believe in a "God" is not because "nothing can exist without a creator", but because you want a "God" to exist. This fact becomes even more evident when to this *something* that "must" have created the universe you attach a series of attributes based on nothing more than wishful thinking. For example that this *something* cares specifically for some insignificant species on some insignificant planet, that he will give you paradise, 40 virgins and whatever else you choose to include in your God fairytale.

[miltiades]

[quote="at he will give you paradise, 40 virgins and whatever else you choose to include in your God fairytale.

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40 ? I would want at least 70, provided all are ...blondes with blue eyes and big knockers

[Get Real!]

And there is nothing literally "miraculous" about the universe.

Just take your computer back and tell them you’re too fucking stupid to own one!

"The universe is *there* (visible and tangible) and we are a part of it." Exactly. And "God" is not.

“GOD” is the three letter label we use to identify that which is responsible for the universe being there, so GROW UP for fuck’s sake, and quit acting like an utter jerk you spoiled little shit!

...then the question is "Who then created God?"

King of idiots… that which is INFINITE does not have a beginning or an end... very much like your stupidity.