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[Get Real!]

You are contradicting yourself Get Real. Don't you claim that you have found the truth and that you know how the universe was "created", what is the "purpose" of humans, what happens after we die etc? Aren't you a human too? How could you and other theists possibly know what you claim you know?

I only identify the entity responsible for the universe as “God” but I have no idea *how* it was created. God’s magic I suppose.

Everything ever said or written on this planet was said or written by humans. The difference is that some humans base their beliefs on wishful thinking and fill everything that is unknown with myths about Gods, while other humans base their beliefs on facts that can be proven and accept that certain things are currently unknown.

So maybe you should follow your own advice, accept that you are an insignificant man that can't possibly know everything beyond what is currently humanly possible, and learn to live with the fact that certain things are and will possibly remain unknown to you forever.

The things I write about here are simple things revealed to us by God through his word. You can then cross-reference much of that with good common sense and analysis to see how much of it makes sense and you may be pleasantly surprised.

You won’t find me writing about “what’s out there” like Stephen Hawking does who literally turns his fantasies into best sellers, simply because I’m not privy to such information… well nobody is.

Steven is clearly a con artist punching above his weight because he relies on the foolishness of Man buying his fairy-tales to earn his comfortable living.

[Get Real!]

Babies are born with imperfections in accordance with the imperfect biological dynamics of this planet, ...

Wrong!

- Today's so-called "imperfections" are tomorrow's evolutionary advantages!

If there is a God - does he really need to waste time with half-baked cousins of bacteria, like us?

I'm not following...

[Get Real!]

...science demonstrates that there can be no, no God.

Both you and science need to quit pot smoking.

[miltiades]

It was from a very young age, during my time in orphanage, end endless bible studies, that I begun to question passages from the bible, coupled with the lingering words in my mind " Thelima tou Theou yie mou " by the village priest comforting me whilst I cried my eyes out kneeling next to my dead mother.

I became more and more inquisitive but still held on to the belief that God was there to look after me and my siblings, but not entirely confident that God 's will might just deprive me of what was left of my family.

I prayed daily and half-heartedly accepted those words said to me by the village priest. God's Will My Son.

Growing up, my inquisitiveness was becoming more and more pronounced and on reading the bible I instinctively questioned much of the contents in the Old Testament, being the basis of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

Here is one such passage that can make anyone question the existence of a creator, all apart from those immersed in this belief such as GR.

" Deut 25:11-12


If two men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals, you shall cut off her hand; show no pity. "

Could a loving caring God inspire someone to write this utterly disgusting passage ?

Here is another equally revolting passage.
Gen 38:8-10


"Then Judah said to Onan, ‘Go in to your brother’s wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her; raise up offspring for your brother.’ But since Onan knew that the offspring would not be his, he spilled his semen on the ground whenever he went in to his brother’s wife, so that he would not give offspring to his brother. What he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. "
Inspirational words indeed from the Creator of the universe, or words by medieval man ?

Lastly here is another obnoxious passage:

Deut 21:18-21

"If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel will hear, and be afraid. "
A God condoning STONING TO DEATH ?

I have many more obnoxious passages and will post some later.

[Get Real!]

Here is one such passage that can make anyone question the existence of a creator, all apart from those immersed in this belief such as GR.

Those scriptures are not messages for you today.

The well known 10 commandments and a whole bunch of other instructions; a couple of which you quoted above, were given to Moses to deliver to the Israelites who were in the middle of the exodus headed for the desert where they were to remain for 40 years.

They are special instructions just for them (Israelites) during that period in the desert.

Why? Who knows…

[Atheist]

The things I write about here are simple things revealed to us by God through his word.

Two things could be happening here:

1. You are "hearing voices", in which case you should check it out because it could be schizophrenia.
2. You believe other people who claim that they know the "word of God" but in reality they are fairy tale creators.

You can then cross-reference much of that with good common sense and analysis to see how much of it makes sense and you may be pleasantly surprised.

And something like "paradise" can be "cross-referenced" with common sense and analysis?

You won’t find me writing about “what’s out there” like Stephen Hawking does who literally turns his fantasies into best sellers, simply because I’m not privy to such information… well nobody is.

Steven is clearly a con artist punching above his weight because he relies on the foolishness of Man buying his fairy-tales to earn his comfortable living.

The best selling fantasy story is the bible

I don't think Stephen Hawking is trying to sell unproven theories as facts. If something is not proven then it should be labeled as a hypothesis. If he doesn't do this then I would agree with you that he is trying to profit by selling a hypothesis as a fact and it would make him almost as bad as the bible authors (but still not quite as bad, since his theories are at least based on extensive research)

[miltiades]

Here is another of God's pronouncements.
Ex 21:20-21

"When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. 21But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. "

DEMAND FOR BLIND SUBMISSION "
Luke 14:26


"Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. "
Here the creator pronounces his ....love of women!!
1Tim 2:11-12
"Let a woman* learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman* to teach or to have authority over a man;* she is to keep silent "

Here once again God pronounces hi ...love of all of ..hid creations. Disgusting.
Isaiah 13:13-16

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble,
and the earth will be shaken out of its place,
at the wrath of the Lord of hosts
on the day of his fierce anger.
14 Like a hunted gazelle,
or like sheep with no one to gather them,
all will turn to their own people,
and all will flee to their own lands.
15 Whoever is found will be thrust through,
and whoever is caught will fall by the sword.
16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes;
their houses will be plundered,
and their wives ravished. "

THEIR INFANTS WILL BE DASHED TO PIECES !!!
Indeed God is great, this imaginary God, so vulgar and so cruel. Is this where you take your Q from GR ??

[miltiades]

Here is another of God's pronouncements.
Ex 21:20-21

"When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. 21But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. "

DEMAND FOR BLIND SUBMISSION "
Luke 14:26


"Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. "
Here the creator pronounces his ....love of women!!
1Tim 2:11-12
"Let a woman* learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman* to teach or to have authority over a man;* she is to keep silent "

Here once again God pronounces hi ...love of all of ..hid creations. Disgusting.
Isaiah 13:13-16

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble,
and the earth will be shaken out of its place,
at the wrath of the Lord of hosts
on the day of his fierce anger.
14 Like a hunted gazelle,
or like sheep with no one to gather them,
all will turn to their own people,
and all will flee to their own lands.
15 Whoever is found will be thrust through,
and whoever is caught will fall by the sword.
16 Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes;
their houses will be plundered,
and their wives ravished. "

THEIR INFANTS WILL BE DASHED TO PIECES !!!
Indeed God is great, this imaginary God, so vulgar and so cruel. Is this where you take your Q from GR ??

[Get Real!]

Two things could be happening here:

1. You are "hearing voices", in which case you should check it out because it could be schizophrenia.
2. You believe other people who claim that they know the "word of God" but in reality they are fairy tale creators.

Problem is this “schizophrenic” can run rings around you in this subject and the best that you can offer is denials, dismissals, and rudeness.

I could be talking about this subject for ages without ever repeating myself; and indeed I have done so on this forum dozens of times, but all one can expect from you are repeats of your assumption that everything is fantasy.

So given that we already heard/know your “everything is fantasy” assumption there’s no need for you to post any further in this thread. I’m sure everyone is well aware of your stance by now. Ta!

And something like "paradise" can be "cross-referenced" with common sense and analysis?

Some things are and some things are not... elementary.

The best selling fantasy story is the bible

Well once again, you haven’t researched the authenticity of the bible so the best you can offer is your ASSUMPTION.

I don't think Stephen Hawking is trying to sell unproven theories as facts. If something is not proven then it should be labeled as a hypothesis. If he doesn't do this then I would agree with you that he is trying to profit by selling a hypothesis as a fact and it would make him almost as bad as the bible authors (but still not quite as bad, since his theories are at least based on extensive research)

He's just a well known idiot who couldn't spot his penis let alone phenomena in the cosmos...

http://www.counselheal.com/articles/842 ... -holes.htm

[CrookedRiverGuy]

He's just a well known idiot who couldn't spot his penis let alone phenomena in the cosmos...

Well, when you're mentioning one...

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