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[Atheist]

And the above are just a few of the baseless assumptions you need to make. There are more. E.g. that this "creator" still exists. A creation can outlive its creator.

[Get Real!]

And what makes you think that this "combination of matter, energy, ingredients, and reactions" is something conscious that also gives a fuck about you? What guides your beliefs is always the same: Wishful thinking.

You forget that Man happens to be part of this beautiful, elegant, complex, and law abiding universe so we can be confident that our existence was planned.

In order to fulfill your wishful thinking a series of baseless assumptions need to be made:

Baseless assumption 1: There is a creator of the universe

What is baseless is your assumption that the universe did not have some kind of early formation process, but it must've had an origin because it is tangible and visible matter, it's not a spirit.

Baseless assumption 2: That creator cares about you (to use your ant example: that "invisible to the ants" human deeply cares about the ants)
Baseless assumption 3: That creator is able to offer to you eternity (to use your ant example: that "invisible to the ants" human can make ants immortal)

Like I said... we were planned or we wouldn't exist.

So in order to fulfill your psychological needs you need to make a baseless assumption on top of a baseless assumption on top of a baseless assumption!

Now tell me, how did *your* baseless argument here escape your baseless logic?

Oops…I’ve answered my own question!

[Atheist]

You forget that Man happens to be part of this beautiful, elegant, complex, and law abiding universe so we can be confident that our existence was planned.

Even if you make the baseless assumption that your existence was planned it still doesn't follow that the one who created you has the intention and ability to provide to you eternal life. Also you argument would suggest that everything created, from plants, to ants, to bacteria etc would have eternal life as well since they would also be "planned".

What is baseless is your assumption that the universe did not have some kind of early formation process, but it must've had an origin because it is tangible and visible matter, it's not a spirit.

Arguing for an "early formation process" is one thing. Claiming that this process must have started intentionally by some wise super being who planned everything is what is a baseless assumption.

Also "spirits" do not exist without matter. The only thing that exists that we could call "spirit" is the result of brain activity. Claiming that a "spirit" can exist without matter is yet another baseless belief for which there is no proof.

[miltiades]

with all the education you have had, if you believe that god created the universe i would say it has all been wasted.

i would ask for my money back.

But Lordo, you don’t come across as having had *any* worthwhile education (well definitely not tertiary anyway) so how can you possibly evaluate me or trust your sense of judgment?

Are you not aware that to teach you must be at least one academic level higher than your students?

At least that’s how it works in the EU but I don’t know about Turkey.

According to this study, Lordo has a much higher IQ than you
" Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion
Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs


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Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study.

" Atheists are probably more intelligent than religious people because they benefit from many social conditions that happen to be correlated with loss of religious belief. When one looks at this phenomenon from the point of view of comparisons between countries, it is not hard to figure out possible reasons that more intelligent countries have more atheists as Richard Lynn (2009) reported.!!!


Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides.

Therefore since Lordo is more intelligent than you I'm a ,,,genius !!
Re ise vlakas


They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said.


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[Get Real!]

You forget that Man happens to be part of this beautiful, elegant, complex, and law abiding universe so we can be confident that our existence was planned.

Even if you make the baseless assumption that your existence was planned it still doesn't follow that the one who created you has the intention and ability to provide to you eternal life. Also you argument would suggest that everything created, from plants, to ants, to bacteria etc would have eternal life as well since they would also be "planned".

What is baseless is your assumption that the universe did not have some kind of early formation process, but it must've had an origin because it is tangible and visible matter, it's not a spirit.

Arguing for an "early formation process" is one thing. Claiming that this process must have started intentionally by some wise super being who planned everything is what is a baseless assumption.

Also "spirits" do not exist without matter. The only thing that exists that we could call "spirit" is the result of brain activity. Claiming that a "spirit" can exist without matter is yet another baseless belief for which there is no proof.

Your entire post is a load of rubbish unworthy of a response.

Talk about baseless…

[Get Real!]

According to this study,

And according to my study the vast majority of studies aren't worth the paper they're written on.

Next...

[miltiades]

The G...reat R...eligious buffoon wrote :
" Talk about baseless… "
Re malaka, are you for ...Real!! What a blithering uneducated ...Plonker with the IQ of a ...skoulougi !!

[Lordo]

with all the education you have had, if you believe that god created the universe i would say it has all been wasted.

i would ask for my money back.

But Lordo, you don’t come across as having had *any* worthwhile education (well definitely not tertiary anyway) so how can you possibly evaluate me or trust your sense of judgment?

Are you not aware that to teach you must be at least one academic level higher than your students?

At least that’s how it works in the EU but I don’t know about Turkey.

reh vosgo dou dimbou my little toe has more education than you.

i graduated from university of life with a phd on recognising assholes from a mile away.

[Get Real!]

with all the education you have had, if you believe that god created the universe i would say it has all been wasted.

i would ask for my money back.

But Lordo, you don’t come across as having had *any* worthwhile education (well definitely not tertiary anyway) so how can you possibly evaluate me or trust your sense of judgment?

Are you not aware that to teach you must be at least one academic level higher than your students?

At least that’s how it works in the EU but I don’t know about Turkey.

reh vosgo dou dimbou my little toe has more education than you.

i graduated from university of life with a phd on recognising assholes from a mile away.

It sounds like the same one that Milti and the rest of those atheist goofballs attended.

I heard your highest scoring assignment was when you looked in a mirror… it’s a shame you dropped out soon after that.

[Lordo]

reh laomene can you not tell an educated person. how the hell do you studdy science and be religous. you clearly did not undestand a thing about science.

100 years ago we could only just about fly in a plane. now we can take photos of planets being fromed billions of miles away. the advancement we have had is exponential. who knows what will happen in 100 years time. you are tlking about a book that was written 1800 years ago from the stone age.