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[RichardB]

Humanist and humanism is one thing, humanitarianism is another. You are confused.

I dont want guarantees from Turkey, but they are necessary unless we sort things out so as TC are safe from GC's nationalism. GC terrorist organisations are in the Parliament, so TC really need guaranties.

please give some examples of barbaric acts against recent refugees ..Thank you

Have you ever visited Kofinou refugee camp? Go there and find out yourself.

I have not visited Kofinou but I regularly read news reports from various sources and have not seen any reports of barbarism. .hardship yes but not barbarism

I do recall however the conditions in the tented camps on the curium road when I lived in limassol in 1977 and in which some greek cypriot refugees were still living in up until the early 80s due to the barbarism of the Turkish invasion.

The conditions in Kofinou must seem like a luxury to those people

[Get Real!]

Have you ever visited Kofinou refugee camp? Go there and find out yourself.

My wife has been there twice; many schools go and visit them and take them presents each time, and there are a lot schools…

Can *you* guarantee that you’ve done something for them other than bitch online?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Had we welcome refugees, Yusra would have been .....

Are you complaining that Cyprus isn't more like Greece - the country that inspired them to compete ...

cyprus44543.html#p835973

Maybe you now agree, as the British admitted, Enosis would have brought peace to Cyprus!

Furthermore, fluff-brain, if Turkey would kindly remove her 40,000 Turkish troops and unwelcome (by all) 500,000 illegal imported settlers from Anatolia, then Cyprus can have more room for genuine refugees ...

[miltiades]

Saudi Arabia, Dubai, UAE are far wealthier than little Cyprus with the added benefit that they too, Arab countries, are infected with the same virus. Come to think of it , Cyprus has no need for the likely risk that a small percentage might be Isis infiltrators. Here I'm at Dasoudi beach enjoying a cold glass of wine when some sick bastard shouts out that god is fucking great and blows him self up and causing my wine to spill !!Fuck that, I say !

[repulsewarrior]

More to the point, i remember (...that moment,) Germans, in Germany who welcomed the idea of helping individually, these people in distress to their homes no less. But there was no political mechanism for such sponsorship, for those most in need, to get help, (a Sponsorship Program) from those willing to offer it one on one. There is no mechanism today either, in Europe, the borders essentially have remained closed; and politically this issue is tearing them apart.

Around the world, people, at least, the Government of these people have taken to acting harshly (on mass migrants), escalating the hardship in affect; witness Australia in the news recently (again).

...there was that baby drowned lifted from the sea. In Canada the horror struck home worse than in most parts globally, the shame. Indeed there was a sponsor for this child, this child, our Government failed to expedite, willfully, or not.

25,000 from Syria were already housed by individual Canadians through the Sponsorship Program (a program that has existed since the war in Vietnam). 25,000 more, in 9 months i might add were welcomed by the (new) Government's initiative. 50,000 more will arrive as well (our commitment to the International Community). Small in comparison to Lebanon, or Jordan, where Canada's government has focused more of its attention. Small in comparison to Germany perhaps, which has millions perhaps to integrate as Germans, in German society, but intentions count ('none' exist); such intentions by Individuals to reach out personally to other Individuals is not anathema to the values countries like Germany, Canada, or the United States hold dear, frankly such efforts only enrich them in the hearts of those who remain in war torn states and who yearn for such good fortune on such terms. While one casualty, (by an external force,) in these theaters of murderous force makes ten enemies against "them", acts of kindness, like Canada's Sponsorship Program, makes pretty clear an enemy against this horror exists within the people themselves, that beyond a country's politics at any given time, ten will also know Canadians' intentions.

...something to think about.

[Lordo]

Humanist and humanism is one thing, humanitarianism is another. You are confused.

I dont want guarantees from Turkey, but they are necessary unless we sort things out so as TC are safe from GC's nationalism. GC terrorist organisations are in the Parliament, so TC really need guaranties.

please give some examples of barbaric acts against recent refugees ..Thank you

Have you ever visited Kofinou refugee camp? Go there and find out yourself.

I have not visited Kofinou but I regularly read news reports from various sources and have not seen any reports of barbarism. .hardship yes but not barbarism

I do recall however the conditions in the tented camps on the curium road when I lived in limassol in 1977 and in which some greek cypriot refugees were still living in up until the early 80s due to the barbarism of the Turkish invasion.

The conditions in Kofinou must seem like a luxury to those people

what was the war cry of the greal offcier in kofunye in 67 again.

not even a terggish chickem must remain alive. they burnt a disable man alive my friend. you may forget it but there are those who will not. may he rip for nobody dereves such a death.

this of course was years before 74. and you tell me gc did not start kiling people till after the intervention.

[repulsewarrior]

...all i can say Lordo the "they" you are talking about were not me, although i am not Turkish, but Greek in origin, another victim by the same hands, a Cypriot against a force foreign to that nature.

...who the hell are you talking to Lordo? I exist, people like me exist, despite the fervour to frame the debate exclusively between "Greeks" and "Turks" decades now, Cypriots remain. Indeed there existed "officers" like you describe, but really who were they, in relation to the other half who are and should be called Cypriots? You deny this fact, while it only benefits those whose lives revolve around their "Greekness", or "Turkishness", you ignore the truth the real truth: as Cypriots people were murdered and made to disappear, because as Cypriots they lived as Cypriots their lives were ended, "Greeks" their equals and contemporaries just as murderous the "Turks" were against Cypriots (whether Greek or Turkish) to suit their own proxy war.

...you paint with too large a brush Lordo; it is why all your pictures turn black.

[kurupetos]

of course I am humanist

Yeah, you're such a humanitarian that you want of all countries Turkey to “guarantee” Cypriots!

Using your superior intellect you figured that the guaranteed incessant slaughter of Kurds, combined with the guaranteed extermination of Gulenists, and guaranteed disposal of all other critics/undesirables was solid evidence of guaranteed action against your own people… the Cypriots!

You should change your alias to “Mr Guarantee”...

Or maybe just pezevenk will do...

A humanist has nothing to do with a humanitarian; it is a catchy term for a filthy atheist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

[Get Real!]

of course I am humanist

Yeah, you're such a humanitarian that you want of all countries Turkey to “guarantee” Cypriots!

Using your superior intellect you figured that the guaranteed incessant slaughter of Kurds, combined with the guaranteed extermination of Gulenists, and guaranteed disposal of all other critics/undesirables was solid evidence of guaranteed action against your own people… the Cypriots!

You should change your alias to “Mr Guarantee”...

Or maybe just pezevenk will do...

A humanist has nothing to do with a humanitarian; it is a catchy term for a filthy atheist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

Thanks for the tute but my problem is sometimes reading too fast.

[Lordo]

gr you cant give your title to others boy.