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[Get Real!]

In the eyes of a Turk you are a “gavur” or unbeliever, and the punishment for that is death.

You’d better believe it…

BS, that is what you are taught in order to fear and hate turks. 3,2% openly admit that are atheists in Tukrey

I did not invent this term. We *are* referred to as “gavur” or “kafir” which means "unbeliever" or "infidel".

Ask a Turk and he'll verify.

[RichardB]

April 15, 2015 5:23 PM


ISTANBUL—
Onur Romano, a founding member of Turkey’s Atheism Association, opens the office and checks the mail. For once, he says, there are no death threats.

"Sometimes they send photos of some al-Qaida members chopping people off heads and putting all the heads in a bucket," he says. "They tell us your head is going to be in one of the buckets, that's how you are going to leave your office, stuff like that."

In officially secular Turkey, whose population is 99 percent Muslim, atheists are voicing alarm about what they call increasing intolerance fueled by the country’s pro-Islamist government.

"Through Facebook, Twitter, emails, and to our call center, we have received a couple of hundred death threats already," Romano continues. "We have a total of three security cameras, and we have two panic buttons hooked up to the nearest police precinct. But we are determined."

On Turkish TV channels where growing numbers of Islamic clerics espouse their beliefs, Atheists are a popular target. Romano says much of his group's work involves countering such views.

"We don't insult religion, we don't insult people’s values. All we are trying to [do] is to tell people what atheism, because our people think that atheists are people who have orgies every night, rape animals because [and] have no ethical values,” he said. “For them, ethics is equal to religion."

In speech last month, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan warned people to beware of atheist terrorists, accusing them of conspiring to overthrow his government.

Over the past year, people have been jailed for questioning God’s existence on Twitter, prosecuted under a law against inciting religious hatred. Last month, that same law was used to ban 48 websites, including one belonging to the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, as well as the atheist association's webpage.

At their weekly meeting, members discuss the site ban over bottles of wine. Despite the setback, everyone is trying to keep spirits up.

As one member who declined to provide her name, says these gatherings represent an opportunity to hang out with fellow atheists, many of whom are too scared to admit their views even to their own families.

"Unfortunately, people does not even want to say, because they are scared to lose their job, they are scared to have trouble with their family as well," she said. "I had big problem with my family. My mother told me that [she is] going to the government, and say it’s not my daughter anymore. And I told her, 'OK, if it's the way it is for you, go ahead,' because it’s not going to change what I am."

Last month, the head of a fringe Sharia society directed a death threat at the Atheism Association's president, Tolga Incir, vowing to cut off his hands and head. Stepping outside the atheist group's office, Incir says the threat is more serious than usual, but that there's little he can do.

"This threat is very open. When we founded this association, we were aware that we were risking things, especially in a country like this," he said. "I will not be surprised if thousands of people are thinking the same — that atheists should be killed. I carry on with my life and if it happens, it happens."

Incir says his group's biggest concern is not Turks but jihadists, many of whom he says spend time in Istanbul en route to Syria. But he says the society is unbowed and is planning to celebrate its first anniversary with a march through the center of Istanbul

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[mistermax]

In the eyes of a Turk you are a “gavur” or unbeliever, and the punishment for that is death.

You’d better believe it…

BS, that is what you are taught in order to fear and hate turks. 3,2% openly admit that are atheists in Tukrey

I did not invent this term. We *are* referred to as “gavur” or “kafir” which means "unbeliever" or "infidel".

Ask a Turk and he'll verify.

The term exists but they don t want to slaughter us. I know a lot of turks and many are my friends.

[Maximus]

Looks like the Turk cant live with you MisterMax. They would die for Erdogan and Erdogan hates Athiests..

[Get Real!]

In the eyes of a Turk you are a “gavur” or unbeliever, and the punishment for that is death.

You’d better believe it…

BS, that is what you are taught in order to fear and hate turks. 3,2% openly admit that are atheists in Tukrey

I did not invent this term. We *are* referred to as “gavur” or “kafir” which means "unbeliever" or "infidel".

Ask a Turk and he'll verify.

The term exists but they don t want to slaughter us. I know a lot of turks and many are my friends.

We *all* get along with individuals but that’s not where the danger lies.

The Turks as a MOVEMENT or POLITICAL FORCE is the danger, not individuals so don’t get confused by some nice individuals you may have met.

Cyprus has been under attack by Turks since 1571.

It never stopped to this day and we *are* struggling to maintain our existence because we are very small and too few in face of the enemy.

[RichardB]

missimax wrote


"The term exists but they don t want to slaughter us. I know a lot of turks and many are my friends".



Absolutely this was proven during the "peace intervention" in 1974

[Maximus]

In the eyes of a Turk you are a “gavur” or unbeliever, and the punishment for that is death.

You’d better believe it…

BS, that is what you are taught in order to fear and hate turks. 3,2% openly admit that are atheists in Tukrey

I did not invent this term. We *are* referred to as “gavur” or “kafir” which means "unbeliever" or "infidel".

Ask a Turk and he'll verify.

The term exists but they don t want to slaughter us. I know a lot of turks and many are my friends.

You know, I have heard Turks and TC say. I have a lot of greek and Greek Cypriots friends, but, but, but.....then proceed to argue discriminatory solutions to the Cyprus problem where "greeks" would cede rights to them and be extorted by them.

[mistermax]

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You know, I have heard Turks and TC say. I have a lot of greek and Greek Cypriots friends, but, but, but.....then proceed to argue discriminatory solutions to the Cyprus problem where "greeks" would cede rights to them and be extorted by them.

Well tc have a right to feel unsafe without guaranties.

[Get Real!]

He seems to have all these naïve ideas of a Cypriot utopia but it can never come to pass for he underestimates the big monster in the region that will never let us be.

Turks are not the kind of people that will stay put in their borders… they will keep pushing until they oust you or you confront them, give them a bloody nose and they then withdraw and respect you.

I’m afraid, we cannot evade a military confrontation at some point in the future.

[kurupetos]

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You know, I have heard Turks and TC say. I have a lot of greek and Greek Cypriots friends, but, but, but.....then proceed to argue discriminatory solutions to the Cyprus problem where "greeks" would cede rights to them and be extorted by them.

Well tc have a right to feel unsafe without guaranties.

You too, Andros. Your ass belongs to me.