Cherie Blair paid by Turkish Cypriots to defend the Ormas
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Cherie Blair paid by Turkish Cypriots to defend the Ormas
by Sotos » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:00 am
I've heard on the news today that Turkish Cypriot businessmen, then ones that sell Greek Cypriot properties to foreigners, have paid Cherie Blair 200.000 pounds to represent the Orams. They said that if the Orams win this case it will give a big boost to the property market in the occupied areas. The Turks can not win a court case and they decided to buy it instead
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by Piratis » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:34 am
What does it matter who is the judge? If you were on trial and the prime minister came to the court insisting that you were guilty would you feel that you were receiving a fair trial?
Why did the TCs hired Cherie Blair? I think it is very obvious zan. They know that this is a lost case for them if justice is left to do its job uninterrupted.
Why did the TCs hired Cherie Blair? I think it is very obvious zan. They know that this is a lost case for them if justice is left to do its job uninterrupted.
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by zan » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:18 am
Piratis wrote:What does it matter who is the judge? If you were on trial and the prime minister came to the court insisting that you were guilty would you feel that you were receiving a fair trial?
Why did the TCs hired Cherie Blair? I think it is very obvious zan. They know that this is a lost case for them if justice is left to do its job uninterrupted.
You can't have it both ways Piratis. One minute you say by joining the EU we will get justice for all and now you are telling me not to trust the system. What is it to be? You either accept the EU approved judges decision or not.
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by troll » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:08 am
Cherie 
Bliar???
Not a sound move by anyones estimation.The Bliar dynasty has about the same standing in the UK as Robert Mugabe! One thing that does disturb me though-here in the UK there seems to be an explosion of adverts for holidays in northern Cyprus. In London recently, a bus company was advertising these holidays (painted on side of bus) and when complaints were made about the continued illegal occupation, the holiday company won the right to continue advertising because the "judge" decided that a ban would damage their business! No one gets justice here in the UK and I would argue that the rest of the EU is just as bent.The Turkish businessmen are welcome to Bliar.My life, can you imagine waking up to that staring back at you???
Bliar???
Not a sound move by anyones estimation.The Bliar dynasty has about the same standing in the UK as Robert Mugabe! One thing that does disturb me though-here in the UK there seems to be an explosion of adverts for holidays in northern Cyprus. In London recently, a bus company was advertising these holidays (painted on side of bus) and when complaints were made about the continued illegal occupation, the holiday company won the right to continue advertising because the "judge" decided that a ban would damage their business! No one gets justice here in the UK and I would argue that the rest of the EU is just as bent.The Turkish businessmen are welcome to Bliar.My life, can you imagine waking up to that staring back at you???
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by Svetlana » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:01 am
HI Troll
Are you suggesting that Court judgements in the UK are influenced moreby Politicions in the UK than they are in Cyprus? Having personal experience of both, let me assure you that is not the case!
Lana
Are you suggesting that Court judgements in the UK are influenced moreby Politicions in the UK than they are in Cyprus? Having personal experience of both, let me assure you that is not the case!
Lana
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by Svetlana » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:34 pm
Turkey funding Orams case
By Jean Christou
REPORTS in a British newspaper that the Turkish government is paying part of Cherie Blair’s £200,000 Sterling fee to defend the Orams shows that the case has political significance despite protest to the contrary by Downing Street, the government said yesterday.
Britain’s Mail on Sunday went undercover to investigate the case of Linda and David Orams, who are attempting to justify their possession of land in the north belonging to Greek Cypriot Meletis Apostolides.
The British Prime Minster Tony Blair’s barrister wife is taking part in the defence of the couple, who are appealing a Nicosia court decision ordering them to demolish the £160,000 villa they built on Apostolides’ property in Lapithos.
As the Nicosia court cannot enforce its decisions in the north, the case has been accepted by the UK courts.
Cherie Blair’s law firm Matrix, was brought in by the Orams’ Turkish Cypriot lawyer Hassan Vahib, 44, a property developer and former Labour councillor in London, who is also one of the parties paying the couple’s legal costs.
Downing Street has insisted that Blair is acting in her professional capacity as a lawyer but a reporter from the Mail on Sunday discovered otherwise while posing as someone interested in buying property in the north.
The paper said it spoke to the operations manager of Vahib’s property firm Troy Lake UK (Cyprus) Ltd, Firtac Ortac, who confirmed the firm was contributing to Cherie Blair's costs and that the reason for hiring her was because of her political influence.
“At a meeting with an undercover Mail on Sunday reporter he said: 'We are paying her more than £200,000. The clients are not paying. We are. We can afford it and we have much ourselves to gain. When Mrs Blair wins, it will set a precedent and the market will rocket.'
“Ortac also said that the hiring of the Prime Minister's wife was, for them, a political act, the paper said: “We have about 25 lawyers working for us, so there is no shortage of legal brains. But you see the North-South dispute is also very political.
“They (the Greek Cypriots) have made it political, so now we get political too. What can be better than getting the wife of the British Prime Minister on our team? She is a noted human rights lawyer too, so simply getting her involved and on the Turkish side is fantastic,” he added.
Ortac claimed that the Turkish government was also paying Blair because they were 'playing a political game' and boasted that Vahib was in regular contact with Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer, the paper said.
Blair agreed to take the case following hush-hush meetings with Vahib and the Orams in Istanbul last May. “Cherie Blair spent three days in the city, during which she was a guest of the British consulate. However, she demanded that the reason for her trip be kept confidential,” it added.
Another property developer, several of whom are involved in financing the case, said they were hoping she could use her political influence in the case. “What can be better than getting the wife of the British Prime Minister on our team?” said one. “When Mrs Blair wins, it will set a precedent and the market will rocket.”
Government spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said it was obvious from the report that those who hired Blair hired her specifically in order to exploit her politically as the wife of the British Prime Minister.
“What is particularly important is that someone appears to admit that the Turkish Government will pay all of part of the fees of Mrs Blair,” he said.
“Perhaps they believe by hiring her they might be able to influence the course of British justice. Is the impression not created that by accepting such a politically loaded case, Mrs Blair has given insufficient weight to her position as the wife of the British Prime Minister?”
Chrysostomides said it should also be borne in mind that the British Foreign Ministry has on many occasions published warnings to Britons about the legal minefield of purchasing property in the north. “It seems Mrs Blair has not taken these warnings into consideration,” he said.
The Orams told the Mail on Sunday that they had agreed with their legal team not to speak until after the conclusion of the case.
“All I can say to you now is that we are extremely confident of winning,” Linda Orams said.
< MY personal opinion: How can Mrs B-liar, sorry I mean Mrs Booth, not now withdraw from this case?
Lana>
By Jean Christou
REPORTS in a British newspaper that the Turkish government is paying part of Cherie Blair’s £200,000 Sterling fee to defend the Orams shows that the case has political significance despite protest to the contrary by Downing Street, the government said yesterday.
Britain’s Mail on Sunday went undercover to investigate the case of Linda and David Orams, who are attempting to justify their possession of land in the north belonging to Greek Cypriot Meletis Apostolides.
The British Prime Minster Tony Blair’s barrister wife is taking part in the defence of the couple, who are appealing a Nicosia court decision ordering them to demolish the £160,000 villa they built on Apostolides’ property in Lapithos.
As the Nicosia court cannot enforce its decisions in the north, the case has been accepted by the UK courts.
Cherie Blair’s law firm Matrix, was brought in by the Orams’ Turkish Cypriot lawyer Hassan Vahib, 44, a property developer and former Labour councillor in London, who is also one of the parties paying the couple’s legal costs.
Downing Street has insisted that Blair is acting in her professional capacity as a lawyer but a reporter from the Mail on Sunday discovered otherwise while posing as someone interested in buying property in the north.
The paper said it spoke to the operations manager of Vahib’s property firm Troy Lake UK (Cyprus) Ltd, Firtac Ortac, who confirmed the firm was contributing to Cherie Blair's costs and that the reason for hiring her was because of her political influence.
“At a meeting with an undercover Mail on Sunday reporter he said: 'We are paying her more than £200,000. The clients are not paying. We are. We can afford it and we have much ourselves to gain. When Mrs Blair wins, it will set a precedent and the market will rocket.'
“Ortac also said that the hiring of the Prime Minister's wife was, for them, a political act, the paper said: “We have about 25 lawyers working for us, so there is no shortage of legal brains. But you see the North-South dispute is also very political.
“They (the Greek Cypriots) have made it political, so now we get political too. What can be better than getting the wife of the British Prime Minister on our team? She is a noted human rights lawyer too, so simply getting her involved and on the Turkish side is fantastic,” he added.
Ortac claimed that the Turkish government was also paying Blair because they were 'playing a political game' and boasted that Vahib was in regular contact with Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer, the paper said.
Blair agreed to take the case following hush-hush meetings with Vahib and the Orams in Istanbul last May. “Cherie Blair spent three days in the city, during which she was a guest of the British consulate. However, she demanded that the reason for her trip be kept confidential,” it added.
Another property developer, several of whom are involved in financing the case, said they were hoping she could use her political influence in the case. “What can be better than getting the wife of the British Prime Minister on our team?” said one. “When Mrs Blair wins, it will set a precedent and the market will rocket.”
Government spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said it was obvious from the report that those who hired Blair hired her specifically in order to exploit her politically as the wife of the British Prime Minister.
“What is particularly important is that someone appears to admit that the Turkish Government will pay all of part of the fees of Mrs Blair,” he said.
“Perhaps they believe by hiring her they might be able to influence the course of British justice. Is the impression not created that by accepting such a politically loaded case, Mrs Blair has given insufficient weight to her position as the wife of the British Prime Minister?”
Chrysostomides said it should also be borne in mind that the British Foreign Ministry has on many occasions published warnings to Britons about the legal minefield of purchasing property in the north. “It seems Mrs Blair has not taken these warnings into consideration,” he said.
The Orams told the Mail on Sunday that they had agreed with their legal team not to speak until after the conclusion of the case.
“All I can say to you now is that we are extremely confident of winning,” Linda Orams said.
< MY personal opinion: How can Mrs B-liar, sorry I mean Mrs Booth, not now withdraw from this case?
Lana>
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