Get Real! wrote:GreekIslandGirl wrote:Get Real! wrote:GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Yes, and historical records and now DNA migration studies show they were the same people.
And what are you talking about with regard to "ceased to exist"? There are no known discontinuities - there is a continuous culture that progressed as most do.
No they don't. They show that Cypriots and Levantines (Syrians, Druze, Lebanese, etc) are basically the same people.
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/a ... en.1003316
No, it's saying that over 10,000 years ago or so, the people of this area were the same and then struck out. As I said, the people of Cyprus were the same as the people of Greece (from one tribe). They mixed and developed and re-mixed until we have the modern historical records which provide definitive proof that they shared a developing culture. More recent records show less mixing due to the rise of some religions. There are even tiny fragments of migratory DNA found in Spaniards for example and Cypriots and Christian Lebanese that were brought here about a thousand years ago by the Crusaders.
You’re talking SHIT as per usual!
The RESULT of this study concludes that the closest people to Cypriot DNA are the 1.
Lebanese Christians, 2.
Lebanese Druze, and 3.
Sephardic Jews.
End of story!
Sorry, but there's nothing that deterministic. The main migratory DNA that links Cypriots with Lebanese Christians is the one contributed latterly by Crusaders.
For example:
Lebanon is an eastern Mediterranean country inhabited by approximately four million people with a wide variety of ethnicities and religions, including Muslim, Christian, and Druze. In the present study, 926 Lebanese men were typed with Y-chromosomal SNP and STR markers, and unusually, male genetic variation within Lebanon was found to be more strongly structured by religious affiliation than by geography. We therefore tested the hypothesis that migrations within historical times could have contributed to this situation. Y-haplogroup J∗(xJ2) was more frequent in the putative Muslim source region (the Arabian Peninsula) than in Lebanon, and it was also more frequent in Lebanese Muslims than in Lebanese non-Muslims. Conversely, haplogroup R1b was more frequent in the putative Christian source region (western Europe) than in Lebanon and was also more frequent in Lebanese Christians than in Lebanese non-Christians. The most common R1b STR-haplotype in Lebanese Christians was otherwise highly specific for western Europe and was unlikely to have reached its current frequency in Lebanese Christians without admixture. We therefore suggest that the Islamic expansion from the Arabian Peninsula beginning in the seventh century CE introduced lineages typical of this area into those who subsequently became Lebanese Muslims, whereas the Crusader activity in the 11th–13th centuries CE introduced western European lineages into Lebanese Christians.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18374297And, e.g. ....
Outside Europe, E1b1b is found at high frequencies in Morocco (over 80%), Somalia (80%), Ethiopia (40% to 80%), Tunisia (70%), Algeria (60%), Egypt (40%), Jordan (25%), Palestine (20%), and Lebanon (17.5%). On the European continent it has the highest concentration in Kosovo (over 45%), Albania and Montenegro (both 27%), Bulgaria (23%), Macedonia and Greece (both 21%), Cyprus (20%), Sicily (20%), South Italy (18.5%), Serbia (18%) and Romania (15%).
In fact, the small presence of E-V13 in the Near East could be better explained by the extremely long Greek presence in the eastern Mediterranean from the time of Alexander the Great until the end of the Byzantine domination over the region during the Middle Ages. It would be unthinkable that over 1,500 years of Hellenisation and Byzantine rule in Anatolia and the Levant didn't leave any genetic trace. In Anatolia, E-V13 is found mostly in the western third of the country, the region that used to belong to ancient Greece. The absence of E-V13 from Central Anatolia does not concord with a diffusion linked to Neolithic agriculture. There is clearly a radiation from the Greece (where E-V13 makes up approximately 30% of the paternal lineages) to the East Mediterranean (where the frequency drops to under 5%).
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogrou ... -DNA.shtml
