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[miltiades]

A gorilla warfare against the British in 1955 is a totally different issue.

It's "guerrilla" you gorilla!

Who pulled your string psycho ??
By the way, I'm getting bored with your mate, shall we have a contest as to who is the gorilla here ?
You are obsessed with spelling psycho, its not natural .

[Get Real!]

A gorilla warfare against the British in 1955 is a totally different issue.

It's "guerrilla" you gorilla!

Who pulled your string psycho ??
By the way, I'm getting bored with your mate, shall we have a contest as to who is the gorilla here ?
You are obsessed with spelling psycho, its not natural .

Education is *everything* Miltiades, so we must strive to improve our communication skills at every opportunity. I pointed something out which I hope you’ll never forget.

There's no excuse for Cypriots making such basic mistakes.

[Kikapu]

A gorilla warfare against the British in 1955 is a totally different issue.

It's "guerrilla" you gorilla!

Speaking of gorilla, I wonder what ever happened to forum member" Gorilla Girl"?

She must have been quite hairy I would imagine!

[MR-from-NG]

A gorilla warfare against the British in 1955 is a totally different issue.

It's "guerrilla" you gorilla!

Who pulled your string psycho ??
By the way, I'm getting bored with your mate, shall we have a contest as to who is the gorilla here ?
You are obsessed with spelling psycho, its not natural .

Education is *everything* Miltiades, so we must strive to improve our communication skills at every opportunity. I pointed something out which I hope you’ll never forget.

There's no excuse for Cypriots making such basic mistakes.

I must admit, I admire GR's command of the English language. GiG, GR and there was another guy, Gavrianos? or similar which I always suspected was GR are in a league of their own. I agree with GR, education is very important, I was a star pupil in Cyprus and then came to England at the age of 11. At 13 I discovered girls, drugs and heavy rock and that was me fucked good and proper.

[Pyrpolizer]

The CNG is in a position to be able to engage in various activities against the occupying power, which in my view, can also include a coordinated advance against the occupying power across the Green Ceasefire line. Such an action would need to take into consideration the International responce to such an act and its ramifications, even though International Law favours the RoC. That is the job of the political leadership, not the CNG.

What would be better, if hostilities commence is that the Turks start it, and my view is that the CNG has enough strength to make significant advances into the occupied areas and quite possibly find themselves in control of a lot of territory.

In fact, I think the Balance of Power is with the CNG with its 100,000 troops fully mobilized, great Air Defence, Armour, and Mechanized Infantry which can operate in small numbers and negate the effectiveness of the TAF.

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The Turks were and still are constantly provoking for a new war. Not only in Cyprus but in Greece as well. Do you know how many civilians they shot dead in cold blood just because they crossed a few meters inside the neutral zone? What for do you think?
Have you followed the events when Isaac and Solomou were killed in cold blood? Do you know how much army they gathered hidden a few meters behind, just in case the crowd would get mad and start crossing "in peace"??

Secondly it seems to me you don't know much about how wars get started. Do you think mobilizing 100k reservists would have even 1 millionth of a chance to go unnoticed? Turkey was preparing the invasion for years and it took it almost a month to start sailing in 1974.
If we start mobilizing they would start too, and they will even provoke the start of a new war. The minimum they would ever achieve after a mini or prolonged war is recognition as a separate country. As for us advancing -hahaha-do you know the strategic value of Pendadaktylos range that they have in HAND? By just shooting from the mountain any idiot can encounter 100 more enemy soldiers.

The only thing the NG could ever do is a sudden attack with commandos to take Famagusta, this was always possible and even suggested at least by one of the NG ex-Generals in the past. Problem is even if successful it will not remain unanswered, in fact it will escalate to full scale war within a week! The occupying army will simply get the opportunity it was always seeking.

In a nutshell the NG is a defending force that can and will cause severe damages to the occupying Turkish army if they try to advance. as for the Turkish Airforce it might well lose half it's fleet with all those mirage missiles. Such a war could last from a week to a month before
the Super powers intervene and the most likely outcome would be thousands of casualties from both sides. As for anyone advancing, when wars get started the enthusiastic and the brave ones die first, and then it's all shooting and standstill. I served in the army studied the timeline of lots of wars including that of Vietnam, the scenarios are all similar.

[Get Real!]

A gorilla warfare against the British in 1955 is a totally different issue.

It's "guerrilla" you gorilla!

Speaking of gorilla, I wonder what ever happened to forum member" Gorilla Girl"?

She must have been quite hairy I would imagine!

She probably moved to FB where she belonged… maybe under “Gorilla” or “Guerrilla”, which reminds me of another CF oddball… that vexillologist but I forget his alias.

[Get Real!]

At 13 I discovered girls, drugs and heavy rock and that was me fucked good and proper.

But your English is also pretty good so it's just as well you had the fun then!

Btw, Garavnos is not me and I'm surprised you think it is!

My English is international; I’ll happily mix and match British, American, and Australian words and spelling, whereas Garavnoss is 100% British-English.

I reckon he and Oracle are the strongest in the language.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

Secondly, my views are shared by the vast majority around the world

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Blimey .... he's gone from speaking for all the forum members ..... to speaking on behalf of US/NATO ...... speaking on behalf of the UN .......and now he is speaking for the rest of the World

Next he will claim he speaks for God, is the new Mesiah and is here to start a new religion 'Paphitism' . (Got to admit .... it's got a nice ring to it ..... 'P-a-ph-it-ism' )

There is no limit to this mans talents ..... I think he should be put forward for the command of the first space ship to Mars ..... apparently it is one way trip.

No I never claim to be the Messiah!

I claim that my views are in fact mainstream in the Western World. Your's and Miltiades' views are not mainstream because you support Assad.

The Coalition and its allies (oh just so happens to be most of the world, EU, NATO etc etc) do not support Assad but do support transition.

Whether we have transition or not, the Coalition is now a major stakeholder in Syria and controls a significant chunk of land. Our negotiating hand is increased. We are in a position to Declare new Kurdish Republic if we need to do, if things don't work out.

In other words, our knife is carving Syria up right now, and Pootin is powerless.

But I guess, I have a feeling that we might even have Russia's backing. The big loser, is Assad!

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

Secondly, my views are shared by the vast majority around the world

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Blimey .... he's gone from speaking for all the forum members ..... to speaking on behalf of US/NATO ...... speaking on behalf of the UN .......and now he is speaking for the rest of the World

Next he will claim he speaks for God, is the new Mesiah and is here to start a new religion 'Paphitism' . (Got to admit .... it's got a nice ring to it ..... 'P-a-ph-it-ism' )

There is no limit to this mans talents ..... I think he should be put forward for the command of the first space ship to Mars ..... apparently it is one way trip.

He is a complete idiot, and a fucking liar as well. He is an air steward who tells everyone that he is a ....pilot!!
He also boasts of his ....enormous wealth, his children he says DO NOT have to worry about earning their living, he has provided them with a .....nest egg. The idiot thinks that everyone shares his views, yet we all know that on this forum nobody does.
Ignore the moron, hopefully he may just do a ...Houdini. Some years back he said goodbye to everyone even posting his own tomb stone. A couple of days later he was back.

Look at the number of posts he has made, crap all of them !

The only idiot here is yourself and your F Troop Dad's Army of old aged pensioners.

Firstly, you degrade and insult the tremendous capability of the CNG which in my view is just perfect and more than adequate for a small island like Cyprus, on its own turf.

Then you have the audacity to claim that my views are somehow out of step of reality. You are out of step with reality. You will find it difficult to convince the vast majority of Western and EU countries, including France, Canada, Holland, and Australia that they are out of step when they are the biggest proponents advocating for the fall of Assad.

Sorry, but you are unrealistic.

The Coalition has proven to be correct all along. It took us 4 years to get into Syria after significant DAESH provocations and political resistance to do so, but now, we are here to stay to protect the Kurdish and Syriac Army territorial gains in Norther Syria, and around Raqqa.

[Paphitis]

The CNG is in a position to be able to engage in various activities against the occupying power, which in my view, can also include a coordinated advance against the occupying power across the Green Ceasefire line. Such an action would need to take into consideration the International responce to such an act and its ramifications, even though International Law favours the RoC. That is the job of the political leadership, not the CNG.

What would be better, if hostilities commence is that the Turks start it, and my view is that the CNG has enough strength to make significant advances into the occupied areas and quite possibly find themselves in control of a lot of territory.

In fact, I think the Balance of Power is with the CNG with its 100,000 troops fully mobilized, great Air Defence, Armour, and Mechanized Infantry which can operate in small numbers and negate the effectiveness of the TAF.

.

The Turks were and still are constantly provoking for a new war. Not only in Cyprus but in Greece as well. Do you know how many civilians they shot dead in cold blood just because they crossed a few meters inside the neutral zone? What for do you think?
Have you followed the events when Isaac and Solomou were killed in cold blood? Do you know how much army they gathered hidden a few meters behind, just in case the crowd would get mad and start crossing "in peace"??

Secondly it seems to me you don't know much about how wars get started. Do you think mobilizing 100k reservists would have even 1 millionth of a chance to go unnoticed? Turkey was preparing the invasion for years and it took it almost a month to start sailing in 1974.
If we start mobilizing they would start too, and they will even provoke the start of a new war. The minimum they would ever achieve after a mini or prolonged war is recognition as a separate country. As for us advancing -hahaha-do you know the strategic value of Pendadaktylos range that they have in HAND? By just shooting from the mountain any idiot can encounter 100 more enemy soldiers.

The only thing the NG could ever do is a sudden attack with commandos to take Famagusta, this was always possible and even suggested at least by one of the NG ex-Generals in the past. Problem is even if successful it will not remain unanswered, in fact it will escalate to full scale war within a week! The occupying army will simply get the opportunity it was always seeking.

In a nutshell the NG is a defending force that can and will cause severe damages to the occupying Turkish army if they try to advance. as for the Turkish Airforce it might well lose half it's fleet with all those mirage missiles. Such a war could last from a week to a month before
the Super powers intervene and the most likely outcome would be thousands of casualties from both sides. As for anyone advancing, when wars get started the enthusiastic and the brave ones die first, and then it's all shooting and standstill. I served in the army studied the timeline of lots of wars including that of Vietnam, the scenarios are all similar.

Pyro,

the Turks are very clever politically, and I agree, that their military has superior leadership as well.

Turkey however, is more talk than walk. They know, that by provoking Greece and Cyprus, that the Greeks and Cypriots won't do anything about it. Therefore, they have your measure and act with impunity.

However, if someone like Greece ups the anti, like they have on a couple of occasions under Andreas Papandreou in particular, they start pissing themselves and they retreat with their tails between their legs. Their military leadership is fully aware of the ramifications, and that that a victory against Greece is less than assured. The same applies in Cyprus. But Turkey trumps Greece and Cyprus politically on all fronts. They push and prod right to the last, but no follow through.

They will keep provoking until the point they push their luck a little too far.

Turkey does not have 1 million troops which they could mobilize against either Greece or Cyprus. In Cyprus they only have 40 odd thousand plus some reservists.

I am also aware how a politician killed Isaac and a bunch of TC or Turkish gangs beat Solomou to a pulp. That was not the Turkish Military.

No I don't know how many civilians they shot when they advanced a few meters. But this if true, is no measure of the CNG's capability in the event of fully blown out hostilities.

Once again, Cypriots are very good at talking themselves down. They mention Turkey's 1 million strong military and its 500 fighters etc, but please spare me. The truth is, only about 50,000 of them will ever be involved in a conflict in Cyprus, and the International Community, United Nations, as well as NATO will get involved within a matter of days and call for a ceasefire immediately.

Firstly, the Americans have a big issue over their weapons being used in Cyprus against the Cypriot people. The Americans are notorious for this. Turkey will face sanctions.

When the Americans sell their arms, they want a say on how they are to be used. If for instance they will be used against the Kurds or Cypriots, then there is a price for that. Cyprus is an EU country, and the Americans as far as I can tell, are eager to either support a Kurdish Federal State in Syria or even a Republic. That is how I see things developing.

Turkey is increasingly isolating itself from the West, especially because of Syria. It is currently the weakest link in Syria, and not doing very well with the Russians, and not playing ball with the coalition because of the Coalition/Kurdish alliance.

The biggest advantage the CNG has is that it is on its own turf. NATO will not support Turkey or invoke Article 5. Turkey has everything to lose but nothing to gain.