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[GreekIslandGirl]

Spin, spin, spin!

You categorically posted another lie about what I stated!

You lie so much, you have NO concept of what truth means.

You think you can post and post and post enough variations, slowly changing and dropping words until you convince yourself you said something else entirely.

Well, that's a CRAFTY liar imo.

Your failure (AGAIN) to provide THE quote is enough.

[erolz66]

Spin, spin, spin!

You categorically posted another lie about what I stated!

You lie so much, you have NO concept of what truth means.

You think you can post and post and post enough variations, slowly changing and dropping words until you convince yourself you said something else entirely.

Well, that's a CRAFTY liar imo.

Your failure (AGAIN) to provide THE quote is enough.

Once more you are just in fact talking about your self. You just project how you behave here on to me, divorced and detached from any actual reality. Nothing new there. The quote of yours that was the basis of me saying "Claiming that Cyprus is a territory (or resource) of Greece sounds pretty Greek imperialist to me." was given when I made that post, remained exactly the same when I re referenced it each time you screamed 'show me the quote' and remains the same now. That is the truth. Yes in the sane and rational discussion about the point I raised that I subsequently was having with Sotos 'Cyprus being a territory of Greece' became transposed with 'Cyprus being a colony of Greece' but my original point and post remains identical to when I made it as does the verbatim quote of yours that was the basis of the point I was making. You have now spent post after post failing to address that original point and instead trying to make out I am a liar, because this is what you do. Such behaviour is the definition of "argumentum ad hominem". This is what you do here on this forum it is what you have always done here on this forum.

[repulsewarrior]

Sadly the topic is about the asylum-seekers.

...how will they be integrated into Cypriot society?

[GreekIslandGirl]

...... became transposed with 'Cyprus being a colony of Greece'

How passive! All by itself? It "became" a lie all by itself, huh? No agency? You were not the one typing the lie about what I said?

Now I have heard it all!

Making stuff up is no longer actively lying according to the above.

No, when erolz makes stuff up and claims others have said it, it is some kind of transposition event

[erolz66]

How passive! All by itself? It "became" a lie all by itself, huh? No agency? You were not the one typing the lie about what I said?

Still refusing to address the point raised and resorting to "argumentum ad hominem" - same old same old then.

Soto's given definition used the word colonialism and in response to that I followed suit, as the point I was making remained unchanged. A claim that Cyprus is a territory of Greece and one that it is a colony of Greece both to me are expression of Greek Imperialism. Any normal person interested in ration discussion would accept the reality that you did say what you said, as quoted, and address the point I raised. Instead you just do what you always do and it is as tedious as it it pathetic imo.

[GreekIslandGirl]

No, I'm not going to negotiate with you so that you can bury your lie.

If you want to discuss territories, colonies, nations or whatever, start a new topic and present your case in a neutral manner without putting words into other posters' mouths.

I'll join in when I have time.

[repulsewarrior]

...pathetic.

...i learned a new word, saponification. like the gag line, in a bad joke. Quite fitting actually, although it turns my stomach to think about the brutality of this crisis, and that of the past.

I wonder if any of you have smelled death, death that comes from corpses unattended for a while because there are too many? It is like rape, like the rape victim, afterward you feel unclean, and there is no way to describe this horror. Some of you i thought came near, being my age and Cypriot, but i don't suppose that now, i cannot forget my own horrors, how can you so easily brush off Injustice, help to those that are its victims, at least respect and recognition; nothing but a very bad joke, and a jack-off who has been dying to use a word he learned a while ago, exploiting these victims, no worse than the "Turks" or the "Greeks" they deny they are.

...welcome to Cyprus, here is the "sides" to avoid, it seems.

[kurupetos]

[erolz66]

No, I'm not going to negotiate with you so that you can bury your lie.

Your usual nonsense. Your whole argument is based on pedantry. There is no material difference, as far the point I was making between "GiG expressed the imperilaist notion that Cyprus should today be a colony of Greece" and "GiG expressed the imperilaist notion that Cyprus should today be a territory of Greece". That you choose to avoid addressing the point I did make, to zoom in on this irrelevance and use it as the basis of your "argumentum ad hominem" is just business as usual for you.

My response to Sotos was not a lie. An example of a lie would be to try and repeatedly make out that the 8th Bi annual report on the functioning of Schengen was the Schengen evaluation report on Greece in order to try and make out that the conclusion of the Schengen evaluation report on Greece were not what they actually were. That is an example of systematic lying.

[GreekIslandGirl]

My response to Sotos was not a lie.

I know you have a problem with the truth.

But you had lied because you could not find anything which proved that I had said what you stated I had said. Do you understand?

That is then a lie to normal people.

Furthermore, the fact that you would rather derail this thread than open up a fresh discussion (as I suggested) to offer your views on 'colony', 'territory' etc is further proof of an anti-Cypriot/Greek agenda as far as I'm concerned.