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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:52 am

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Did you see the Farage Video? Although a ‘geriatric’, as I see it, the federalisation of the EU was far more significant in my deliberations than immigration. The UK has lived with immigration for decades. The last time I went to London (9 yrs ago) I thought I was in a foreign country! So, in a way I can understand the resentment especially where immigrants are becoming the majority. It must be quite worrying, especially for younger families with children in schools where English is a language spoken by the minority.

Ah yes the cry of the locals ´ i did not know there were gas chambers down the road and thought it was snowing all year´ - of course the thick people voted for ´white wogs out ´ - mostly in areas where there are ZERO of them - proving its not anytihng but more NAZIS mis-info .LONDON voted to stay in a lot due to the facts THAT THERE AINT MANY WOAPs - most non-europeans voted leave up north - coz the ´´pakis´ are losing bizness to the local ´´white wog´ shop ...
as for primary schools ,yes they might have mostly children who go to church each sunday and have good manners and respect their
parents - ie ´white wogs ´ COZ THEY ARE THE MAJORITY IN THE AREA - its not alabama where children are bused around to make it even .
if you look at secondary schools they are 95% brits (unless you start a NAZIS NO.7 test)

Robin Hood wrote:Sorry to hear that but I am sure there will be others interested. As for the reason? You could be right there are still a lot of scare stories being spread. It seems that many who voted to remain are playing the ‘we-told-you-so’ game and seem determined to prove they are right and those that voted for an exit were wrong. :roll:

Here is what you do - you write it on a bit of paper ,then 24 hours later go back and read it - if it sounds like the ravings of a complete loony - find you local ´i dont pay im british´´ cyprus nut house and take a room - ANYONE WHO THINKS PEOPLE WILL LET THEIR HOUSE SALE FALL THRU just to say we-told-you-so is a total nut job ...


Kukupetos;
Your fascist tactics won't work in this forum, little man. Bog off.

I suggest you take the hint, I don't think racist trolls are welcome here!!
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:32 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Did you see the Farage Video? Although a ‘geriatric’, as I see it, the federalisation of the EU was far more significant in my deliberations than immigration. The UK has lived with immigration for decades. The last time I went to London (9 yrs ago) I thought I was in a foreign country! So, in a way I can understand the resentment especially where immigrants are becoming the majority. It must be quite worrying, especially for younger families with children in schools where English is a language spoken by the minority.

Ah yes the cry of the locals ´ i did not know there were gas chambers down the road and thought it was snowing all year´ - of course the thick people voted for ´white wogs out ´ - mostly in areas where there are ZERO of them - proving its not anytihng but more NAZIS mis-info .LONDON voted to stay in a lot due to the facts THAT THERE AINT MANY WOAPs - most non-europeans voted leave up north - coz the ´´pakis´ are losing bizness to the local ´´white wog´ shop ...
as for primary schools ,yes they might have mostly children who go to church each sunday and have good manners and respect their
parents - ie ´white wogs ´ COZ THEY ARE THE MAJORITY IN THE AREA - its not alabama where children are bused around to make it even .
if you look at secondary schools they are 95% brits (unless you start a NAZIS NO.7 test)

Robin Hood wrote:Sorry to hear that but I am sure there will be others interested. As for the reason? You could be right there are still a lot of scare stories being spread. It seems that many who voted to remain are playing the ‘we-told-you-so’ game and seem determined to prove they are right and those that voted for an exit were wrong. :roll:

Here is what you do - you write it on a bit of paper ,then 24 hours later go back and read it - if it sounds like the ravings of a complete loony - find you local ´i dont pay im british´´ cyprus nut house and take a room - ANYONE WHO THINKS PEOPLE WILL LET THEIR HOUSE SALE FALL THRU just to say we-told-you-so is a total nut job ...


Kukupetos;
Your fascist tactics won't work in this forum, little man. Bog off.

I suggest you take the hint, I don't think racist trolls are welcome here!!


But your the one who is along with robin hood who is anti-europe ,anti-gay and post racist offensive posts all the time - do you not know you are doing it ????
your the one acting like a fascist ???
do you not understand what you are writing ????
the fact you had problems half a century ago ,dont givey ou the right to attack anyone who dont fit in your very narrow world - grown ups get over setbacks
stop whinging - beng an old man dont mean you can get alway with such behaviour
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:44 am

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Did you see the Farage Video? Although a ‘geriatric’, as I see it, the federalisation of the EU was far more significant in my deliberations than immigration. The UK has lived with immigration for decades. The last time I went to London (9 yrs ago) I thought I was in a foreign country! So, in a way I can understand the resentment especially where immigrants are becoming the majority. It must be quite worrying, especially for younger families with children in schools where English is a language spoken by the minority.

Ah yes the cry of the locals ´ i did not know there were gas chambers down the road and thought it was snowing all year´ - of course the thick people voted for ´white wogs out ´ - mostly in areas where there are ZERO of them - proving its not anytihng but more NAZIS mis-info .LONDON voted to stay in a lot due to the facts THAT THERE AINT MANY WOAPs - most non-europeans voted leave up north - coz the ´´pakis´ are losing bizness to the local ´´white wog´ shop ...
as for primary schools ,yes they might have mostly children who go to church each sunday and have good manners and respect their
parents - ie ´white wogs ´ COZ THEY ARE THE MAJORITY IN THE AREA - its not alabama where children are bused around to make it even .
if you look at secondary schools they are 95% brits (unless you start a NAZIS NO.7 test)

Robin Hood wrote:Sorry to hear that but I am sure there will be others interested. As for the reason? You could be right there are still a lot of scare stories being spread. It seems that many who voted to remain are playing the ‘we-told-you-so’ game and seem determined to prove they are right and those that voted for an exit were wrong. :roll:

Here is what you do - you write it on a bit of paper ,then 24 hours later go back and read it - if it sounds like the ravings of a complete loony - find you local ´i dont pay im british´´ cyprus nut house and take a room - ANYONE WHO THINKS PEOPLE WILL LET THEIR HOUSE SALE FALL THRU just to say we-told-you-so is a total nut job ...


Kukupetos;
Your fascist tactics won't work in this forum, little man. Bog off.

I suggest you take the hint, I don't think racist trolls are welcome here!!


But your the one who is along with robin hood who is anti-europe ,anti-gay and post racist offensive posts all the time - do you not know you are doing it ????
your the one acting like a fascist ???
do you not understand what you are writing ????
the fact you had problems half a century ago ,dont givey ou the right to attack anyone who dont fit in your very narrow world - grown ups get over setbacks
stop whinging - beng an old man dont mean you can get alway with such behaviour


Kukupetos;

Your fascist tactics won't work in this forum, little man. Bog off.


Others don't agree with you and see you as the racist. Once again, I suggest you take the hint, I don't think racist trolls are welcome here!!
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:35 am

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Yes but Tim, you know what the leave people will say, right! As soon as all those Poles and the Bulgarians are sent home, there will be a lot of jobs available. But of course, these were the jobs the Brits didn't want to do in the first place, which means these jobs will remain mainly unfilled, unless of course, they will bring back the very same Poles and Bulgarians to take their old jobs back. :wink: :lol:


I think this is a far better indication of the way the British people feel, than what you imply.

Labour motion on EU migrants 'right to remain' passes Commons vote

A Labour motion in support of EU migrants in the UK, which won the backing of Boris Johnson, has passed comfortably in the Commons.

The shadow home secretary, Andy Burnham, called on Conservatives to vote with Labour on the motion, which asked the government to “commit today that EU nationals currently living in the UK shall have the right to remain”. The motion passed by 245 votes to two after the government abstained.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/06/boris-johnson-to-back-labour-motion-on-eu-migrants


I wasn't talking about the commons desires, but rather the desires of the leave camp. Getting rid of the "European Niggers" from the UK was one of their reason for voting to leave the EU, wasn't it? As for Boris Johnson, a "Born again remain camp" buffoon can hardly be taken seriously in what he says or does any longer. He made his bed with the leave camp by scaring the ignorant Brits that Turkey will become an EU member and be invaded by 80 million Turks, so for him now having a change of "heart" is very comical to say the least. Bottom line is, many of the leave camp politicians and their constituents are now facing the reality of their foolish dreams of the UK for Brits only, and as a Brit myself who had not lived in the UK since 1979, I would say to them, take it like a man fools and live with your votes and stop pretending that they care about the immigrants per say.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:49 pm

hold on a moment old man. the referendum has no power. the mps have to approve brexit and in turn the house of lords have to approve it.

the current crop of mps will not vote for it so if the new conservative leader wishes to declare article 50 she would have to hold an election. then of course assuming that the brexiteers win a majority and they will not but assuming they do then the house of lords will block it.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:57 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:

Yes but Tim, you know what the leave people will say, right! As soon as all those Poles and the Bulgarians are sent home, there will be a lot of jobs available. But of course, these were the jobs the Brits didn't want to do in the first place, which means these jobs will remain mainly unfilled, unless of course, they will bring back the very same Poles and Bulgarians to take their old jobs back. :wink: :lol:


I think this is a far better indication of the way the British people feel, than what you imply.

Labour motion on EU migrants 'right to remain' passes Commons vote

A Labour motion in support of EU migrants in the UK, which won the backing of Boris Johnson, has passed comfortably in the Commons.

The shadow home secretary, Andy Burnham, called on Conservatives to vote with Labour on the motion, which asked the government to “commit today that EU nationals currently living in the UK shall have the right to remain”. The motion passed by 245 votes to two after the government abstained.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/06/boris-johnson-to-back-labour-motion-on-eu-migrants


I wasn't talking about the commons desires, but rather the desires of the leave camp. Getting rid of the "European Niggers" from the UK was one of their reason for voting to leave the EU, wasn't it? As for Boris Johnson, a "Born again remain camp" buffoon can hardly be taken seriously in what he says or does any longer. He made his bed with the leave camp by scaring the ignorant Brits that Turkey will become an EU member and be invaded by 80 million Turks, so for him now having a change of "heart" is very comical to say the least. Bottom line is, many of the leave camp politicians and their constituents are now facing the reality of their foolish dreams of the UK for Brits only, and as a Brit myself who had not lived in the UK since 1979, I would say to them, take it like a man fools and live with your votes and stop pretending that they care about the immigrants per say.


You do know that for turkey to join the EU the ROC would have to agree - i would put my money on finding life on Mars ahead of that event
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:03 pm

Lordo wrote:hold on a moment old man. the referendum has no power. the mps have to approve brexit and in turn the house of lords have to approve it.

the current crop of mps will not vote for it so if the new conservative leader wishes to declare article 50 she would have to hold an election. then of course assuming that the brexiteers win a majority and they will not but assuming they do then the house of lords will block it.


European Union Act 2011 says ... "Status of EU law dependent on continuing statutory basis
Directly applicable or directly effective EU law (that is, the rights, powers, liabilities, obligations, restrictions, remedies and procedures referred to in section 2(1) of the European Communities Act 1972) falls to be recognised and available in law in the United Kingdom only by virtue of that Act or where it is required to be recognised and available in law by virtue of any other Act."

So to ´leave´ the EU ,ARTICLE 50 would have to be put as an amendment of the European Communities Act 1972 ,With the 24 month time limit

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/eu-b ... nty-clause
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:12 pm

Lordo wrote:hold on a moment old man. the referendum has no power. the mps have to approve brexit and in turn the house of lords have to approve it.

the current crop of mps will not vote for it so if the new conservative leader wishes to declare article 50 she would have to hold an election. then of course assuming that the brexiteers win a majority and they will not but assuming they do then the house of lords will block it.


That's in dispute at the moment. The government's legal advisors say that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative (meaning the government can do it without a vote by parliament), others say that parliament must vote on it. Two lawsuits have been filed to force the decision to be made through parliament.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:22 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Lordo wrote:hold on a moment old man. the referendum has no power. the mps have to approve brexit and in turn the house of lords have to approve it.

the current crop of mps will not vote for it so if the new conservative leader wishes to declare article 50 she would have to hold an election. then of course assuming that the brexiteers win a majority and they will not but assuming they do then the house of lords will block it.


That's in dispute at the moment. The government's legal advisors say that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative (meaning the government can do it without a vote by parliament), others say that parliament must vote on it. Two lawsuits have been filed to force the decision to be made through parliament.


Well what ever happens it wll end up with the supreme court ....and that dont happen in a week ...

i was reading the france and germany want to put off starting talks unitil german elections 10/17
or until EU elections 2018...
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:43 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
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Lordo wrote:hold on a moment old man. the referendum has no power. the mps have to approve brexit and in turn the house of lords have to approve it.

the current crop of mps will not vote for it so if the new conservative leader wishes to declare article 50 she would have to hold an election. then of course assuming that the brexiteers win a majority and they will not but assuming they do then the house of lords will block it.


That's in dispute at the moment. The government's legal advisors say that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative (meaning the government can do it without a vote by parliament), others say that parliament must vote on it. Two lawsuits have been filed to force the decision to be made through parliament.


Well what ever happens it wll end up with the supreme court ....and that dont happen in a week ...

i was reading the france and germany want to put off starting talks unitil german elections 10/17
or until EU elections 2018...


Yes, I wonder about that too. Those in the know say it will have to end up being decided by judicial review. Could this end up going through the courts for years?
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