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[CBBB]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

[miltiades]

I have to be absolutely and conclusively clear on the drastic fall of Sterling against the US , Euro and other currencies. The fall is 100% due to the Brexit result, not due to any other factor as some seem to suggest. It is blatantly stupid to draw comparisons with past fluctuations and advocate that this dramatic fall is as a result of anything other than the Brexit result.
This time yesterday the pound's MMR was at 1.19105 , 24 hours later and it has dropped to 1.167.
All economic indicators point to a loss of faith in UK's economy, Commercial property funds trading has come to a complete standstill , no buying or selling.

The fall of sterling will continue in days and weeks to come. Am i deliriously happy about this, NO IM NOT.

I want the best for our country, I want an economy that helps our industries, an economy that thrives and has a bright future benefiting all. Instead of this we now " HAVE OUR COUNTRY BACK "
No more Eastern European immigrants pinching our jobs, we now have ...full control of our borders, our NHS is better off by 350 million pounds per week, that is 50 million a year folks. Yes we have all these in our dreams as well as we can now decide our ....own laws !!!
What a load of absolute arhidhia !

[Kikapu]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

No, what Robin is saying if I'm not mistaken, is that, the leave camp did not have a Plan B, hence the fact that the remain camp is unhappy with the current situation and not because Brexit took place in the first place. So had the leave camp had a Plan B where lives of the Brits would have been much better than pre Brexit, then the remain camp would be glad that Brexit happened.

I personally refute that statement. We had a divided country on the referendum. The leave camp, despite not having heard or wanted to hear what Plan B was going to be after the Brexit, they went and voted to leave the EU anyway and most are still happy with their leave vote, even after they have found out that there never was a plan B. There isn't any logical explanation to this in what the leave camp did, other than just wanted to roll the dice and hope for the best.

[Paul ZKTV]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

No, what Robin is saying if I'm not mistaken, is that, the leave camp did not have a Plan B, hence the fact that the remain camp is unhappy with the current situation and not because Brexit took place in the first place. So had the leave camp had a Plan B where lives of the Brits would have been much better than pre Brexit, then the remain camp would be glad that Brexit happened.

I personally refute that statement. We had a divided country on the referendum. The leave camp, despite not having heard or wanted to hear what Plan B was going to be after the Brexit, they went and voted to leave the EU anyway and most are still happy with their leave vote, even after they have found out that there never was a plan B. There isn't any logical explanation to this in what the leave camp did, other than just wanted to roll the dice and hope for the best.

the lemmings seem to have noticed that they are walking towards a cliff and for some reason that im not qualified to understand
still keep walking ...
My idea is that the Euopeans move to spain/scotland etc and start a brave new life with the sun on their back s and a dafe secure life in the 21c
those left in england can look after the OAPs,the housing estates,the crime,,,this sounds extreme but it will happen in a slow way ..
i trade around the world,and talk to others who could world from the north pole or the amazon ..



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[Robin Hood]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

Yes! They are the elected Government they should have had an alternative plan. just in case things didn't pan out.

Yes! The 'remainers' have no plan only ghastly tales of what will now happen and blame those who decided they wanted to leave the EU. A leader elected by his party to lead .... but he didn't ....he walked out when he lost the vote.

The majority called for an exit ..... and the Government didn't have a clue what to do or any plans to deal with it. The Government is elected by the people to govern .......... they didn't. If you wanted the 'Brexiteers' to govern then maybe we should ask Farage to take over from Cameron, at least his CV shows he completed the job he set out to do.

It is nothing to do with intellect its down to simple common sense and an ability to analyse what you read. Separate the obvious crap from more genuine and rational information. Then form a reasoned opinion.

BTW: Carney needed no help from me to create 'dosh' out of thin air! That is exactly what he is doing. Reducing the reserve requirements to allow the banks to create more debt by buying corporate bonds and government bonds, that is from pension funds and the government. i.e. allowing another £150bn to be created out of thin air and converted into assets.

But then I suppose if you don't understand the basics, it puts you at a great disadvantage. You don't know anything about the subject, so you make stupid ill-informed comments.

[miltiades]

Personally I do not concern my self too much with the process used by banks to create money.
What I'm concerned on a personal level is that upon the sale of my property and my return to Cyprus I shall be worst off as of today by around 100 thousand euros, maybe a lot more in due course.

Naturally one is more concerned with personal finances than intricate processes used by the BoE and banks in general in creating debt, money, etc. At the end of the day one passes judgement based purely on personal circumstances. Selfish but true.

[CBBB]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

Yes! They are the elected Government they should have had an alternative plan. just in case things didn't pan out.

Yes! The 'remainers' have no plan only ghastly tales of what will now happen and blame those who decided they wanted to leave the EU. A leader elected by his party to lead .... but he didn't ....he walked out when he lost the vote.

The majority called for an exit ..... and the Government didn't have a clue what to do or any plans to deal with it. The Government is elected by the people to govern .......... they didn't. If you wanted the 'Brexiteers' to govern then maybe we should ask Farage to take over from Cameron, at least his CV shows he completed the job he set out to do.

It is nothing to do with intellect its down to simple common sense and an ability to analyse what you read. Separate the obvious crap from more genuine and rational information. Then form a reasoned opinion.

BTW: Carney needed no help from me to create 'dosh' out of thin air! That is exactly what he is doing. Reducing the reserve requirements to allow the banks to create more debt by buying corporate bonds and government bonds, that is from pension funds and the government. i.e. allowing another £150bn to be created out of thin air and converted into assets.

But then I suppose if you don't understand the basics, it puts you at a great disadvantage. You don't know anything about the subject, so you make stupid ill-informed comments.

In the words of Milt, arhidhia!

[Paul ZKTV]

No plan ‘B’ is what has damaged the UK and the continuous belly-aching of the ‘remainers’, not Brexit!

So let me get this right, plan 'B' should have been devised by those campaigning to remain, not those campaigning to leave?

The 'remainers' have caused the current disaster for the UK, not those that voted to Brexit?

Your intellect is obviously far superior to mine!

Yes! They are the elected Government they should have had an alternative plan. just in case things didn't pan out.

Yes! The 'remainers' have no plan only ghastly tales of what will now happen and blame those who decided they wanted to leave the EU. A leader elected by his party to lead .... but he didn't ....he walked out when he lost the vote.

The majority called for an exit ..... and the Government didn't have a clue what to do or any plans to deal with it. The Government is elected by the people to govern .......... they didn't. If you wanted the 'Brexiteers' to govern then maybe we should ask Farage to take over from Cameron, at least his CV shows he completed the job he set out to do.

you seem to be saying that the mess you are not in is due to the people who said you would get into a mess and its their job to have a plan to sort out the mess that you voted for ...dont worry your not alone all across the UK i hearing more of this weird thinking - it sounds a bit like ´if you leave me - the dog gets it ´ ,its quiet scarey the way some people think - i put it dowe to a problem that brits have by never saying ´what your saying is rubbish ´ and just nod their heads ,so they go on past the point of no return thinking they are on the right road ...

[Paul ZKTV]

Personally I do not concern my self too much with the process used by banks to create money.
What I'm concerned on a personal level is that upon the sale of my property and my return to Cyprus I shall be worst off as of today by around 100 thousand euros, maybe a lot more in due course.

Naturally one is more concerned with personal finances than intricate processes used by the BoE and banks in general in creating debt, money, etc. At the end of the day one passes judgement based purely on personal circumstances. Selfish but true.

i cant comment on cyprus ,but in spain property tax for EU is 7% and non-EU 13%

[Robin Hood]

Kickapu:

No, what Robin is saying if I'm not mistaken, is that, the leave camp did not have a Plan B, hence the fact that the remain camp is unhappy with the current situation and not because Brexit took place in the first place. So had the leave camp had a Plan B where lives of the Brits would have been much better than pre Brexit, then the remain camp would be glad that Brexit happened.

Not quite. The Brexit people had a plan ..... they wanted out of an increasingly Federal Europe. For them plan ‘B’ was simply no change we are stuck on the deck of the Titanic of Europe, with every one else. They saw a bigger picture.

The ‘remain’ camp could tell us all the scare scenarios but had no plan in the drawer to cope with any of them if they lost. They should have, because THEY were in Government. It was a referendum not an election. If it had been the latter then today it would have been Farage in No.10. THEN he would need a much bigger plan!

I personally refute that statement. We had a divided country on the referendum. The leave camp, despite not having heard or wanted to hear what Plan B was going to be after the Brexit, they went and voted to leave the EU anyway and most are still happy with their leave vote, even after they have found out that there never was a plan B. There isn't any logical explanation to this in what the leave camp did, other than just wanted to roll the dice and hope for the best.

Surely, it was the elected Government that needed a plan ‘B’? The logical failure is that the Government had no contingency plan to stabilize the financial economy if the vote went against them, the result of that being obvious!. Surely if you predict doom and gloom then you should have a plan ..... they didn’t. So why blame those that voted leave?

So far the instability is ALL associated with the financial economy not the REAL economy. The financial market is little more than a posh betting shop ..... the odds were on the favourite but the outsider won. Now the backers of the favourite want their stake back and the outsider shot ,because it should never have been allowed to rune in the first place.