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[repulsewarrior]

Conclusions
14. If a Member State decides to withdraw from the EU, the process
described in Article 50 is the only way of doing so consistent with EU
and international law.
15. There is nothing in Article 50 formally to prevent a Member State
from reversing its decision to withdraw in the course of the withdrawal
negotiations. The political consequences of such a change of mind
would, though, be substantial.
16. Withdrawal from the EU is final once the withdrawal agreement
enters into force. Article 50 makes clear that if a State that has
withdrawn from the EU seeks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to
the same procedures as any other applicant State.
17. We note that the European Council has stated explicitly that the
changes to the terms of the UK’s membership of the EU, agreed in
February 2016, will automatically fall in the event of a vote to leave on
23 June.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 38/138.pdf

[miltiades]

" Brexit loophole? MPs must still vote in order for Britain to leave the EU, say top lawyers "

This being the case and since the overwhelming majority of MPs do not support exit from the EU, it looks that invoking article 50 would require a majority vote in the House of Commons.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 05181.html

Will Britain remain in the EU even though the referendum called for an exit? Who knows ...

[Tim Drayton]

Since the announcements have we seen any factories, hospitals or schools close? Have we seen any corner shops put up the shutters? Have we seen employers handing out notices to employees? Have we seen crowds of EU nationals being rounded up ready to be deported? Have there been queues at supermarkets as people panic by food and other essentials? Are there queues at petrol stations?

Answer = NO!

British entrepreneur Richard Branson on Tuesday said his Virgin Group had pulled out of a deal involving 3,000 jobs after Britain voted to leave the EU.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/branson-says- ... 41287.html

[Tim Drayton]

Absolutely no shop anywhere in the UK is closing down? That's rather a broad generalisation, isn't it? Photographed in Redcar, North Yorkshire:

[Paul ZKTV]

On the other hand, I still think the bunch of clowns and buffoons behind the exit campaign have to be put on the spot and told to sort things out.

I take it you don't like Farage...

Correct. I don't like any fascists.

You obviously don't have clue what a fascist is! I don't think Farage has never said he is against immigration per se, what he says he is against is UNCONTROLLED immigration! In that I think he is in step with a very great majority of indigenous 'Englanders' and those who came to the country as immigrants from foreign countries, to work and start businesses in Britain. The EU opened the borders to the riff-raff of Europe many of them from impoverished societies, where theft, political abuse and corruption are rife. Many bring that culture with them and under EU Commission directives we have no right to pack them up and send them back where they came from. They can murder and rape but we have no right to 'export' them to their country of origin ...... crazy ..... bloody stupid!

Your views are generally ill-informed and extremist! You have all the tendencies needed to be a fascist! The UK always has and always will, accept immigrants, whether for economic reasons or on humanitarian grounds but it should be our government that makes that decision not a bunch of interfering, over paid, over privileged, faceless, unknown, unelected bureaucrats holed up in another European capital.

At the moment the Poles are all against what the UK has done. The one thing they have no concept of YET is what will happen when they have to convert from the Zloty, to the Euro. Cyprus was OK until then and so was Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and all these Eastern block countries will have to eventually comply ..... because this is part of the grand plan for a Federal Europe.

yes he is not a fascist ,he is a neo-fascist - and if im right the indigenous people on the island of GB (Indigenous communities, peoples, and nations are those that, having a historical continuity with pre-invasion and pre-colonial societies that developed on their territories) are now living in wales and cornwall and west scotland .
As for the riff-raff - that how you got in this mess ,by having lots of young fit natives sitting on their arse drinking beer ,while you blame someone else for the state of the UK ...MAYBE AT LONG LAST YOU WILL WAKE UP and get your own house in order .
If you live outside the UK robin hood ,then with the pound at 1.00 to 1.10 and no health cover ,then you maybe end up ´back home ´ walking the streets in the rain and

'Get back to Africa': Teenage boys filmed launching 'disgusting' racist abuse on Manchester tram

A man is walking around with his passport on display as a 'safety precaution' after Brexit

[miltiades]

Many commentators seem to ignore the fact that according to legal experts the new Prime Minister does not have the legal right to invoke article 50 heralding the UK exit from the EU, this " right" belongs to Parliament which has to vote on the issue.

" In this post we argue that as a matter of domestic constitutional law, the Prime Minister is unable to issue a declaration under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty – triggering our withdrawal from the European Union – without having been first authorised to do so by an Act of the United Kingdom Parliament. Were he to attempt to do so before such a statute was passed, the declaration would be legally ineffective as a matter of domestic law and it would also fail to comply with the requirements of Article 50 itself."
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/06 ... able-role/

[Paul ZKTV]

14. If a Member State decides to withdraw from the EU, the process
described in Article 50 is the only way of doing so consistent with EU
and international law.
TRUE
15. There is nothing in Article 50 formally to prevent a Member State
from reversing its decision to withdraw in the course of the withdrawal
negotiations.
TRUE
16. Withdrawal from the EU is final once the withdrawal agreement
enters into force. Article 50 makes clear that if a State that has
withdrawn from the EU seeks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to
the same procedures as any other applicant State.
TRUE
17. We note that the European Council has stated explicitly that the
changes to the terms of the UK’s membership of the EU, agreed in
February 2016, will automatically fall in the event of a vote to leave on
23 June.
TRUE
but missing is this ...
http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-li ... le-50.html

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

[Paul ZKTV]

Many commentators seem to ignore the fact that according to legal experts the new Prime Minister does not have the legal right to invoke article 50 heralding the UK exit from the EU, this " right" belongs to Parliament which has to vote on the issue.

" In this post we argue that as a matter of domestic constitutional law, the Prime Minister is unable to issue a declaration under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty – triggering our withdrawal from the European Union – without having been first authorised to do so by an Act of the United Kingdom Parliament. Were he to attempt to do so before such a statute was passed, the declaration would be legally ineffective as a matter of domestic law and it would also fail to comply with the requirements of Article 50 itself."
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/06 ... able-role/

Article 50
1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

this is because it was PARLIAMENT that voted to join the EEC in 1972
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1972/68/contents
so it is PARLIAMENT that need to vote on A50
so far all that has happened is that the a non binding vote has taken place and the right wing got its people out ...
while as per normal the youf and middle classes were in wine bars ...

just remember .... anything is possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEjeTb1rrs

JUST TO SHOW HOW HARD THIS IS THERE WERE 12 ACTS THAT HAD TO BE CHANGED ON THE SUBJECT OF SUGER ALONE !!!
and the Agriculture and Horticulture Act 1964 (grading and transport of fresh horticultural produce)
Road Traffic (Drivers' Ages and Hours of Work) Act 1976 (c. 3, SIF 107:1), Sch. 3 Pt. II
Food and Drugs (Scotland) Act 1956

[miltiades]

Will Parliament vote for exit, this is the big question since the vast majority of MPs support the remain camp.

No doubt many speeches will be made urging MPs to " respect" the wishes of the majority referendum voters.

Whether MPs do so will depend on the outcome over the next few months. My personal opinion is that the House will vote down the " INVOKE" action, so much time will have been wasted and Britain may well continue as a member of the EU. All depends of developments over the next few months. It is certainly not entirely final that the UK will exit the EU.

[Paul ZKTV]

Will Parliament vote for exit, this is the big question since the vast majority of MPs support the remain camp.

No doubt many speeches will be made urging MPs to " respect" the wishes of the majority referendum voters.

Whether MPs do so will depend on the outcome over the next few months. My personal opinion is that the House will vote down the " INVOKE" action, so much time will have been wasted and Britain may well continue as a member of the EU. All depends of developments over the next few months. It is certainly not entirely final that the UK will exit the EU.

It will take 61 tories to vote ...
but first there HAS TO BE A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN THE NEW GOVERNMENT
needs about 20-30 torys to abstain ...
THEN A GENERAL ELECTION
with the LIBDEMS standing on a EU-IN ticket