Thanks for the above explanation. I just have my doubts as to whether you really understand it. If you did, you would surely realise that the right-wing media in the UK and especially the right-wing tabloids have for the past three decades been running a campaign using cherry-picked news stories that are slanted and taken out of context to vilify the EU (to quote your words "you will only ever read one side of the story"). That is why the minds of the masses in the UK have been poisoned against the EU.
You are questioning whether I understand it?
Why do you think I wrote the above and gave up using these MSM so called news outlets, as a source for credible information, years ago? If they have poisoned the minds of the mass of the population against the EU, then it says very little for the level of intelligence of the UK population. I make my own mind up by looking for further details ..... I use the MSM as an index only, not a source with any great credibility.It was this branch of the MSM, as you call it, that has engineered the rise of the far-right UKIP and brought the far right to such a state ascendancy that thugs are now murdering people in the street because they are heard speaking a foreign language. All par for the course for a rag like the Mail, which supported the fascist Nazis in Germany in the 1930's.
They are thugs, full stop! They are not a product of MSM engineered campaigns ..... I doubt that many of them read news papers! Most are too drugged up or drunk to take any interest at all in the EU. In fact I suspect many of them can’t read .... period!
They are a product of the UK’s social degradation over the last Half century. It is not the UK of my youth and the country I read about is no longer recognisable to me. Although I admit I have not lived there as a permanent resident with a ‘local’ job since the early 70’s, most of my work was in Europe until the mid/late 80’s and then I went further afield. I admit I do look at the MSM ..... just to see what a divided country the UK has become. (Nothing to do with Brexit or the EU)
Do you never stop to ask what the real agenda behind this is; what interests of which interest groups it is all serving? It is a sad fact that Rupert Murdoch, who is not even a British citizen and does not live in Britian, has through his position of control of what you call the MSM in the UK, been able to call the result of every poll in the country since the 1980's, including the EU referendum. This makes my blood boil. If you really believe that you have written above, it should make yours boil, too. Have you never stopped to ponder as to the real motive why a man who doesn't live in the country and is not a citizen wants the country to leave the bloc?
You are trying to teach your Granny how to suck eggs! Again you are off on a tangent. You are entering the realm of the conspiracy theorists ...... and the New World Order, Secret gatherings, pyramids, the Seeing Eye, Free Masons etc.etc. You are still wet behind the ears and spouting on a subject you are very unlikely to have any knowledge of. I am sure someone who didn’t know what MSM was ......... wouldn’t have a clue as to what supposedly happens at the very top of the chain of 'Global command' ! (Again - Nothing to do with Brexit or the EU)
Has it not occured to that the reason you keep coming up with quotes from such vile examples of the right wing-gutter press as the Daily Mail and the Daily Express (such as the gem about a so-called post-Brexit boom when Britian has not left the EU!) in your endeavour to cherry pick europhobic news items and post them here is that those two newspapers, prime examples of what you call the MSM, are at the forefront of a campaign to vilify the EU through distorted reporting - and how distorted can you get as using the term 'post-Brexit' to describe a situation in which the UK is still in the union. In my eyes, anybody who constantly uses quotes from the Mail and Express to support their views forfeits the moral authority to use the term 'MSM'.
I entirely agree with you but, if I were to post articles you can find outside the editorial controls of the MSM, then there are those on the forum that would immediately decry the source, never the message, either the source of the author, usually because they have managed to Google a site which questions that sites News impartiality ....... just as you have questioned with the MSM?
I agree with you and quite honestly I would never take the MSM as read, without checking an independent source but to others, that is no more than a conspiracy theory because it does not comply with their understanding .... which THEY get mainly from those very MSM news outlets.
For a change broaden your horizon and try looking at Global News, Information Clearing House, Blacklisted News, Consortium News . You could even give Sputnik International or Haaretz News a go. I won’t list any authors as there are too many but all are independents and most have credentials, provide links to sources they use for information and give detailed opinions with explanations, and of course they have no ‘editor’ chopping out the bits the ‘Owner’ doesn’t like or embellishing the bits he does. Some articles can be very lengthy. Read and make your own mind up.
Please stop trying to put me down and treat me like a naughty pupil. You will not succeed! I am bigger, older, far wiser and experienced in many fields than you are. Do I ever criticise or comment on your posts regarding Turkey/Cyprus? NO! Because I am intelligent enough to realise my limitations and do not know enough about the subjects, therefore I keep my mouth shut and my opinion to myself ..... you should learn that lesson!
This thread is all hypothesis ...... nobody knows what will happen for sure but contrary to the general gloom put out by those who voted remain, there is a lot of optimism regarding the future prospects of the UK, as you yourself have noted. Upbeat news means the currency speculators don’t have the excuse to attack the pound ..... so they attack (sell) the Euro instead. We were advised ‘parity by the end of the month’ (July) but today the pound has managed to get back to just under 1.19 (1.18951) and peaked today at 1.19126, a rise of around 2c this week. It will now remain around that for the weekend ...... more good news over the weekend and it will continue to rise against the Euro, hopefully.
