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[miltiades]

Mate, I think I know Cyprus and the Cypriots far more than you do. Over many many years and hundreds of visits, up to 8 times a year, I have come to know the island far better than a casual visitor.

When in Cyprus do as the Cypriots do, apart from ....driving that is. I'm not the least deluded and neither was my late English wife who loved Cyprus intensely and passionately, choosing the island as her ultimate resting place. I know Cyprus, I know the Cypriots, I also know the Brits, the Ausies, the Americans and other Europeans. Comparing 24 carat gold with 9 carat leads to one only conclusion. Cyprus is 24 carat gold.

Some UK Cypriots, in fact a great number. might share your views for the simple reason that on their sporadic visits to the island they look at Cyprus and the Cypriots as if themselves were foreigners. When I'm in Cyprus I AM PAFITIS !

[Paphitis]

Mate, I think I know Cyprus and the Cypriots far more than you do. Over many many years and hundreds of visits, up to 8 times a year, I have come to know the island far better than a casual visitor.

When in Cyprus do as the Cypriots do, apart from ....driving that is. I'm not the least deluded and neither was my late English wife who loved Cyprus intensely and passionately, choosing the island as her ultimate resting place. I know Cyprus, I know the Cypriots, I also know the Brits, the Ausies, the Americans and other Europeans. Comparing 24 carat gold with 9 carat leads to one only conclusion. Cyprus is 24 carat gold.

Some UK Cypriots, in fact a great number. might share your views for the simple reason that on their sporadic visits to the island they look at Cyprus and the Cypriots as if themselves were foreigners. When I'm in Cyprus I AM PAFITIS !

Then you're deluded and I can say that as a matter of fact.

In my experiences, you do not do what Cypriots do. And to think they we are somehow better than Aussies, Americans, Canadians or anyone else for that matter is the reason why Cyprus is up shit creek and flooded in mediocrity at best.

The new world is the 24 carat gold and diamond. Cyprus is more like lead. Greece is more like manure. The facts speak for themselves. You would think that if Cyprus was 24 carat, we would all move there right now. Fact is, no one wants to, because they know how to butter their bread and because of lifestyle. I don't know many poor Cypriots in Australia. Most are pretty damn asset rich in a country that has the richest population and most affluent society on the planet. Australia is ranked first globally as having the wealthiest population. Migration has been a contributor as to the reason why Australia, Canada are very wealthy, and America is a Superpower. Economists will tell you that migration in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s of people from the 4 corners of the globe have made a massive impact for the good within these countries including Cypriots, Greeks and virtually everyone else as well. That is because these people generated a lot of activity through sacrifice and hard work.

But, if you would like to say they are pleasant for retirement then go ahead. No argument, but not as if Australia is not good for retirement either. It is because the lifestyle is better in Australia for retirees and there are much better support services for the elderly and better health system and social security.

I would even say Greece is good for retirement too. In fact better than Cyprus despite the constant smell of Greek manure.

[miltiades]

Not so long ago you were praising the Arab world's culture calling it far superior to that of the West ! Consistence has not exactly been your strongest virtue thus far.

Over many years people on this forum have witnessed my expression of love for my birth place but also my condemnation of certain aspects and "cultural" pursuance of unpleasant practices such as the killing of song birds and the consumption of them.

I have been highly critical of the endemic " corruption" that in effect caused the recent meltdown of our economy. I do not look at Cyprus through rose coloured glasses and neither do I look at the West in the same manner that you do, ie the Syrian situation.

As a 70 year old, ( next Monday) naturally I view Cyprus much differently than perhaps a younger man bringing up a family, battling with unemployment, cost of living etc etc. For me Cyprus has been always the best place in the world, its people the friendliest with an overwhelming abundance of humour, charm, and above all FILOTIMO.

I'm sure that Australia is a fine country and I can understand your devotion to your own birth country, my birth country is for me the true PARADISE ON EARTH.

[Robin Hood]

I chose Cyprus as my home in 1990 and moved here in 1994 and to me it IS my home. From the reports of life in the UK and the rest of Europe generally, it has advantages over most of them (Some Scandinavian countries excluded.) We don't have 'terror' problems even though the 'enemy' is just an hour away; we can still walk the city streets at night without being mugged, and can leave the house without having it ransacked on return. Life is quiet and easy going, generally and the only problems are those you have pointed out ...... which you grow to live with.

Us old guys, Cypriot or not, should stick together and keep it the country it is .......... a nice place to hang up your working boots!

[miltiades]

I chose Cyprus as my home in 1990 and moved here in 1994 and to me it IS my home. From the reports of life in the UK and the rest of Europe generally, it has advantages over most of them (Some Scandinavian countries excluded.) We don't have 'terror' problems even though the 'enemy' is just an hour away; we can still walk the city streets at night without being mugged, and can leave the house without having it ransacked on return. Life is quiet and easy going, generally and the only problems are those you have pointed out ...... which you grow to live with.

Us old guys, Cypriot or not, should stick together and keep it the country it is .......... a nice place to hang up your working boots!

Precisely !!
I can walk into a place for the first time in my life and within minutes, if you are the sociable type, can strike up a conversation, be it frivolous or even somewhat serious.

I had a penalty parking ticket to pay on my last visit so I walked into the penalty office and quite seriously asked if the over 65s received a ...discount ! Oi re file, the officer responded!
Ah I said but my village priest said that Pafites do get a substantial discount.

He looked at me in a curious sort of way and asked where in Pafos I was from. Stroumbi the Great I responded !! Im from Polemi he retorted !! If you can not pay now will give you a little extra time, as he said this he smiled and said, you dont look that poor!!

Paid up, shook hands and exchanged names. This IS Cyprus. Friendliness in abundance!

[Paphitis]

Not so long ago you were praising the Arab world's culture calling it far superior to that of the West ! Consistence has not exactly been your strongest virtue thus far.

Over many years people on this forum have witnessed my expression of love for my birth place but also my condemnation of certain aspects and "cultural" pursuance of unpleasant practices such as the killing of song birds and the consumption of them.

I have been highly critical of the endemic " corruption" that in effect caused the recent meltdown of our economy. I do not look at Cyprus through rose coloured glasses and neither do I look at the West in the same manner that you do, ie the Syrian situation.

As a 70 year old, ( next Monday) naturally I view Cyprus much differently than perhaps a younger man bringing up a family, battling with unemployment, cost of living etc etc. For me Cyprus has been always the best place in the world, its people the friendliest with an overwhelming abundance of humour, charm, and above all FILOTIMO.

I'm sure that Australia is a fine country and I can understand your devotion to your own birth country, my birth country is for me the true PARADISE ON EARTH.

Of course I praise the Arabic culture. It is a very colorful, and vibrant culture. Everything from the music, dance, food, culture and conservatism.

I am a cultural person, and love variety. Australian and western culture, including Greek and Cypriot culture can be a bit bland for me. I don't consider these cultures anywhere as near as wonderful as the Arabs. It could be because I am use to them but I do love Arabic, and Asian Cultures very much.

Cyprus is good in many aspects, and a good place to retire in, but there are no reasons for a young person with ambition to return to Cyprus. Cyprus is not in the same league as many countries including Australia. But migrating to an Arabic country such as the UAE is most certainly a great and viable option for business and work.

Everyone is friendly. It's not a trait exclusive to Cypriots and it is not as if Cypriots are friendlier than Australians. The most friendly are the Chinese and Arabs which you hate.

In all friggin honesty. I reckon I could tolerate Cyprus for about a year before I would want to self harm myself.

[miltiades]

Anyone who considers Arab culture as ...vibrant is not in a position to judge other cultures that consider women equal to men, allow freedom of faith, do not ban the import of religious books other than their own, do not sentence to death apostates, do not chop hands off, do not consider sex before marriage or outside marriage as sacrilegious deserving death, do not consider the honour of a family resting on a woman's vagina.

Are you serious mate. They, the Arabs are at least a thousand years behind the west in every aspect. Even other Arabs, ie Syrian refugees resist the ....temptation to join Arabic culture, they prefer to risk their lives and that of their children in order to get to the West.

[Paphitis]

Anyone who considers Arab culture as ...vibrant is not in a position to judge other cultures that consider women equal to men, allow freedom of faith, do not ban the import of religious books other than their own, do not sentence to death apostates, do not chop hands off, do not consider sex before marriage or outside marriage as sacrilegious deserving death, do not consider the honour of a family resting on a woman's vagina.

Are you serious mate. They, the Arabs are at least a thousand years behind the west in every aspect. Even other Arabs, ie Syrian refugees resist the ....temptation to join Arabic culture, they prefer to risk their lives and that of their children in order to get to the West.

Yes I rate the Arabs. Often a lot more than Cypriots.

Don't ever tell me now that Cyprus is better than UAE or Qatar because you are deluded.

You also said Cyprus is one of the best countries in the world.

Let me break it to you Milti. Cyprus is a Third World country. Greece is even more third world. But both are good for retirement.

The UAE and Qatar are not third world. They are First world along with Australia and some other countries.

There is NOTHING aspirational about moving to Cyprus or Greece as a young person. Nothing whatsoever.

[miltiades]

Anyone who considers Arab culture as ...vibrant is not in a position to judge other cultures that consider women equal to men, allow freedom of faith, do not ban the import of religious books other than their own, do not sentence to death apostates, do not chop hands off, do not consider sex before marriage or outside marriage as sacrilegious deserving death, do not consider the honour of a family resting on a woman's vagina.

Are you serious mate. They, the Arabs are at least a thousand years behind the west in every aspect. Even other Arabs, ie Syrian refugees resist the ....temptation to join Arabic culture, they prefer to risk their lives and that of their children in order to get to the West.

Yes I rate the Arabs. Often a lot more than Cypriots.

Don't ever tell me now that Cyprus is better than UAE or Qatar because you are deluded.

You also said Cyprus is one of the best countries in the world.

Let me break it to you Milti. Cyprus is a Third World country. Greece is even more third world. But both are good for retirement.

The UAE and Qatar are not third world. They are First world along with Australia and some other countries.

There is NOTHING aspirational about moving to Cyprus or Greece as a young person. Nothing whatsoever.

Why do you always talk rubbish Paphitis ?

Take a look at this :
Is Cyprus a third world country?

Cyprus's HDI ranks 28'th in the world. (google Human Development Index)
Better than USA which ranks 30th
No, its an advanced nation. First world.

http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_Cyprus_a_th ... ld_country

[Paphitis]

Anyone who considers Arab culture as ...vibrant is not in a position to judge other cultures that consider women equal to men, allow freedom of faith, do not ban the import of religious books other than their own, do not sentence to death apostates, do not chop hands off, do not consider sex before marriage or outside marriage as sacrilegious deserving death, do not consider the honour of a family resting on a woman's vagina.

Are you serious mate. They, the Arabs are at least a thousand years behind the west in every aspect. Even other Arabs, ie Syrian refugees resist the ....temptation to join Arabic culture, they prefer to risk their lives and that of their children in order to get to the West.

Yes I rate the Arabs. Often a lot more than Cypriots.

Don't ever tell me now that Cyprus is better than UAE or Qatar because you are deluded.

You also said Cyprus is one of the best countries in the world.

Let me break it to you Milti. Cyprus is a Third World country. Greece is even more third world. But both are good for retirement.

The UAE and Qatar are not third world. They are First world along with Australia and some other countries.

There is NOTHING aspirational about moving to Cyprus or Greece as a young person. Nothing whatsoever.

Why do you always talk rubbish Paphitis ?

Take a look at this :
Is Cyprus a third world country?

Cyprus's HDI ranks 28'th in the world. (google Human Development Index)
Better than USA which ranks 30th
No, its an advanced nation. First world.

http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_Cyprus_a_th ... ld_country

Bloody oath it's a third world country. You're not exactly Luxembourg or Monaco so stop pretending that Cyprus is some kind of utopia.

I keep hearing Cyprus is small, as if to justify mediocrity.

Why on earth would a young family migrate to Cyprus from the UK, Australia, Canada or USA. There is absolutely no reason why they would.

I can understand UK perhaps because of the climate there, but certainly you would be stifling any potential you had.

Don't even think about trying to convince me that Cyprus is somehow better than the USA. Maybe in your wet dreams but nowhere else in the real world.