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[Lordo]

if only we could have the annan plan back he says and he is so right.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2016/04/03/if-only-we-could-bring-back-the-annan-plan/

[B25]

Bwahahaha! You have another cunt, fighting your corner and you think it means something. What a loser, you and he. But then again the CM (toilet paper) is a GC hating paper with its writers who pretend to be journalists.

Keep wet dreaming YFuck, because that's all you're gonna get.

[Lordo]

i dont know who yfuck is but i dont have any wet dreams boy. but if there is a second no you will nightmares boy. with the terggish army permanently based on cyprus soil. you better wise up or ship out boy. now go get a life you hear.

[MrH]

You two are funny, I mean I was seriously giggling with what I read above. As for the Annan Plan, if I'm not mistaken, that's exactly what our current Presidents are now discussing, while let's not forget how much Mr Anas Loved the plan and endorsed it wholeheartedly!

[MrH]

The Entire Article by Mr Charalambous, whom may I add is a very dear colleague of mine!

By Loucas Charalambous

The more I hear our political demagogues cursing the Annan plan and pompously declaring that they would secure a better settlement, the more firmly-rooted becomes my conviction that in this strange country political stupidity has built its permanent home.

One needs neither to be a politician nor exceptionally intelligent to grasp what common sense says: that in the 12 years that have passed since the 2004 referendum there have been many big changes and there are new ‘faits accompli’ that can in no way be eradicated. Therefore, any settlement agreement today would be worse than that one.

I have mentioned in the recent past many examples of these ‘faits accompli’. Here are just a few. First, the growth in the number of settlers with the result that instead of 41,000 people that would have had the right to stay under the Annan plan, we are today looking at about three times as many, according to the revelations of the EDEK leader Marinos Sizopoulos.

Second, the construction frenzy in the north which resulted in thousands of new buildings being built on land belonging to Greek Cypriots, with devastating consequences for the property issue.

Third, the big danger that Morphou will not be returned because the current residents now refuse to move out.

Fourth, the transfer of water from Turkey that has created new conditions on the issue of territory as villages from Yerolakkos to Myrtou to the north and Larnaka Lapithou to the east will not be returned because it is through these areas that the pipelines carrying water to Morphou and Nicosia pass.

Fifth, the extension to the time the 40,000 Turkish troops have stayed in Cyprus, with all its consequences. Under the Annan plan, for the past five years (from 1/1/2011) there would have been 3,000 Turkish soldiers and 3,000 Greeks. In 21 months (from 1/1/2018) only 650 Turkish and 950 Greek would have remained, and their continued stay would have been examined every three years, with “the aim of a full withdrawal” as the plan stipulated.

Today I will add another loss, of an economic nature, in response to the noise made by the hard-line front about the “unaffordable” cost of a settlement that is aimed – as in 2004 – to frighten people off voting for a prospective settlement.

The tourist beach of Famagusta that would have been returned on August 24, 2004 is one of the longest stretches of beach with arguably the finest quality sand in Europe. Our revenue from tourism in 2015 reached €2.11 billion while in 2016 it will probably reach €2.5 billion. Taking into account what we have today in terms of infrastructure and facilities to collect this money, how much more would our earnings have been if Famagusta had been opened?

The scale and quality of the facilities that could be developed on the long Famagusta beach, in combination with what is happening in neighbouring countries in the last few years, suggest investments in developing tourism in the fenced off part of the town – according to estimates by professionals from some of the biggest tourist companies in the world – would be higher than anyone could have imagined. After a few years, Famagusta, the same people estimate, could increase Cyprus’ income from tourism by at least 30 per cent.

I write this because at some point we must recognise what a serious crime we committed against our country in 2004, and the level of stupidity exhibited by our demagogue politicians who even today celebrate their ‘achievement’ of 2004 and frighten us by saying that Anastasiades is, supposedly, trying to bring back the Annan plan.

If only he could. The truth, unfortunately, is that we cannot see the Annan plan even in our dreams any longer, no matter how much nonsense is uttered about its return by Sizopoulos and the rest of the great political brains, including the government spokesman, who never misses an opportunity to inform us that the president ‘respects’ the 76 per cent that voted against the plan.

[MrH]

What's terribly unfortunate for for the island of Cyprus is that the vast majority of the Greek Cypriots (definitely the ones in this forum), are bent on sticking to their "Cyprus is Greek and the Turkish Cypriots are a worthless minority" brainwashed mindset - which will ultimately be to their downfall!

It's this attitude which lead to the 1963 inter-communal conflict and in turn lead to the Genocide Files and 1974 Intervention.

It's no secret that the Greek Cypriots will never SHARE the island and, in their words, "Legalise" the 1974 "Invasion" and give the Turkish Cypriots any chance of a Constituent Federal State. That's obvious.

That's why I have always said that, what you cannot compromise you TAKE. The TRNC is here to stay and if the Greek Cypriots are not careful it WILL soon become an official Turkish Cypriot Province controlled by Ankara (if it's not already).

And trust me, when that happens, due to the Greek Cypriots not seeing the political realities of their own violent and aggressive historical actions, they will be Begging Ankara and the EU to urgently formulate an Annan Style Federal Plan.

Why? Because the Greek Cypriots have absolutely NO idea what it will be like to have a TURKISH border on their doorstep, a border with a country of 82 Million NONE-EU peoples whom will not only Flood the North (TRNC), but will also exert themselves upon the GC-lead ROC.

Continue your ignorant and blind politics as the day will soon come when the GC-Lead ROC will be flooded with Turkish migrants, EU nationals and a minority Greek Cypriot Population.

How do I know this, because I know 100% that Turkey, will not only never be a full EU member state, but is impossible for it to become one too. To the Greek Cypriots, stop playing like a fool and sign the next plan otherwise you are finished!

[B25]

The Entire Article by Mr Charalambous, whom may I add is a very dear colleague of mine!

That explains why the traitor always writes shit about the GCs. If you can just remove your cock from his mouth he might just see the light.

[B25]

What's terribly unfortunate for for the island of Cyprus is that the vast majority of the Greek Cypriots (definitely the ones in this forum), are bent on sticking to their "Cyprus is Greek and the Turkish Cypriots are a worthless minority" brainwashed mindset - which will ultimately be to their downfall!

It's this attitude which lead to the 1963 inter-communal conflict and in turn lead to the Genocide Files and 1974 Intervention.

It's no secret that the Greek Cypriots will never SHARE the island and, in their words, "Legalise" the 1974 "Invasion" and give the Turkish Cypriots any chance of a Constituent Federal State. That's obvious.

That's why I have always said that, what you cannot compromise you TAKE. The TRNC is here to stay and if the Greek Cypriots are not careful it WILL soon become an official Turkish Cypriot Province controlled by Ankara (if it's not already).

And trust me, when that happens, due to the Greek Cypriots not seeing the political realities of their own violent and aggressive historical actions, they will be Begging Ankara and the EU to urgently formulate an Annan Style Federal Plan.

Why? Because the Greek Cypriots have absolutely NO idea what it will be like to have a TURKISH border on their doorstep, a border with a country of 82 Million NONE-EU peoples whom will not only Flood the North (TRNC), but will also exert themselves upon the GC-lead ROC.

Continue your ignorant and blind politics as the day will soon come when the GC-Lead ROC will be flooded with Turkish migrants, EU nationals and a minority Greek Cypriot Population.

How do I know this, because I know 100% that Turkey, will not only never be a full EU member state, but is impossible for it to become one too. To the Greek Cypriots, stop playing like a fool and sign the next plan otherwise you are finished!

The trashcan is already open to the 82 mln gypsies, so no problem there. At least we will be free from the likes of you oh and please hand back the passports and ID cards. The savings alone we will make would see us ok, so no threats will shift us. Your lies about not sharing are just that BS, we share the island with over 50,000 foreign nationals, but none of them want to steal our homes or murder us. I would be more than happy for a fuck big wall between the RoC and the sewer in the north and when Turkey fucks you too don't come crying. Hade assirktir poshto tourko.

[Lordo]

hand back what did you say. skada is what we are going to hand back to you. these ids and passports are our right boy and dont you furquine forget it. relenquis northen cyprus and we shall be glad to hand em back to you and i do believe what you know exactly what to do with them. right or wrong.