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Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

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Do you think Turkey's many atrocities (e.g. the invasion of Cyprus) are forgivable:


Note: Your vote in this poll is NOT confidential. Your username will be displayed under the option(s) you select

Yes - because they were momentary mistakes
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Yes - because they were accidents
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No - because they were intentional
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100%
 
B25, GreekIslandGirl, Oceanside50, Pyrpolizer
Yes - but for other reasons (please state)
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No votes
 
No - but for other reasons (please state)
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No votes
 
 
Total votes : 4

Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby miltiades » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:04 pm

Vordo, what the fuck are you doing in the UK, don't they sell Pork kebabs in Turkey ?
I know, you cant trust the Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeergs :lol: :lol:
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby johnoddy » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:10 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
And why have you not voted?


You should have asked why he felt the need to re-registered with a new nick for just one post :wink:


I'm a new member and not a re-register.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:23 am

...my dislike of "Greeks", is only equal to my dislike of "Turks". Although i can respect a person (as an individual) for their opinion, having allowed me, mine. Boors, bullies, and murderers are another story.

...i never saw Cyprus as Greek, i always saw Cyprus as Cypriot, so did my cousin the closest i had to a brother and the rest of my family, actually. Many years later with his sister we recalled those wonderful nights together under the stars, when we were younger, and before the coup. She cried for the shame, because she never knew that the Flag of Cyprus represented her, then. I cried and felt the shame of knowing that the Flag of Greece could never represent me, and as a Greek i felt the shame of having to forgive those who could not understand my shame.

...i know there is a man behind the door of my great uncle's i am afraid to see. All these years where i have expressed the loving nature of one who follows, the way, i fear most how i would fail myself with him.

...and what of my dear friend Grivas, the brother, is he dead, his story untold; that would be a shame, because he was as great a man and maybe greater as a man because he knew when to stop, and on the holidays, although the "Greeks" would spit on him (i remember) he did not say a word.

My thoughts and understanding go out to you my OP, because it is a struggle for all of us, because i sense you need this support, and because i believe your intentions are for goodness; cheers.

@johnoddy, welcome. a question for you i have never found the answer to; of the UN soldiers stationed in Cyprus how many died and from whom?
..although you were shot at, i have been led to believe that, in all these years, not one of the UN Forces were killed, or injured, by a Grecophone in action; is this true?
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:36 am

i dont believe there was one killed. there is a reason for it though, as soon as the first shot was fired they had top jump into their bunkers. i think that was their remit.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:21 am

I will refuse to vote in this poll, not because I am "Turk lover", as I am not, at least not in the perjorative sense that gIG in her sad state of bitternes means it, indeed the Former Ottoman Emire and various governments of Turkey, especially the current one, deserve condemnation for many brutal acts over the years, including genocide snd ethnic cleansing, violation of Human Rights, repression generally, of the sort seen in the Taksim Square protets, the seizure of news papers, but becaiuse the context of the poll.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:45 pm

erolz66 wrote:I feel that your poll is flawed in so many ways that I have little desire to point out and thus will not be voting in your poll.


If you could point out any "flaws" without concomitantly revealing your true feelings on the matter, then you would.

But you can't. That's fine - abstention speaks volumes too.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:46 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:I will refuse to vote in this poll, not because I am "Turk lover", as I am not, at least not in the perjorative sense that gIG in her sad state of bitternes means it, indeed the Former Ottoman Emire and various governments of Turkey, especially the current one, deserve condemnation for many brutal acts over the years, including genocide snd ethnic cleansing, violation of Human Rights, repression generally, of the sort seen in the Taksim Square protets, the seizure of news papers, but becaiuse the context of the poll.


You're another morally confused hypocrite.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:48 pm

johnoddy wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
And why have you not voted?


You should have asked why he felt the need to re-registered with a new nick for just one post :wink:


I'm a new member and not a re-register.


So do you have anything else to add or you are simply posting one pre-formed little speech?
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby miltiades » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:53 pm

I would most certainly go along with you GIG but since you are not making the distinction that ought to apply to T/Cs , they them selves, the vast majority, victims of their own extremists just as G/Cs were also victims of extremism.

I'm well known on this forum of my views on the T/Cs and also my views on Turkey. Given the right atmosphere the T/Cs would put two fingers up at Turkey, their present position is well understood by most.
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Re: Poll - And the moral of the story is ....

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:15 pm

miltiades wrote:I would most certainly go along with you GIG but since you are not making the distinction that ought to apply to T/Cs ,


What *distinction* that ought to apply to TCs? Is there some opt-out with morality for TCs?

This is about whether Turkey's actions should be forgiven since we tend to forgive accidents/mistakes.
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