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[GreekIslandGirl]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

[Lordo]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

little birdie tells me you are a biologist? even the word biology is greak ffs.


observe and learn my dear,

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mouse+with+human+ear+on+back&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=738&tbm=isch&imgil=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%253BAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.famouspictures.org%25252Fear-mouse%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%252CAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%252C_&usg=__iixyMdns_8Kjujtt70eoofwjRsg%3D&ved=0ahUKEwij4-L7rqDMAhWlIcAKHYAIDYgQyjcIMQ&ei=yBwZV6PfN6XDgAaAkbTACA#imgrc=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%3A

[GreekIslandGirl]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

little birdie tells me you are a biologist? even the word biology is greak ffs.


observe and learn my dear,

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mouse+with+human+ear+on+back&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=738&tbm=isch&imgil=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%253BAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.famouspictures.org%25252Fear-mouse%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%252CAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%252C_&usg=__iixyMdns_8Kjujtt70eoofwjRsg%3D&ved=0ahUKEwij4-L7rqDMAhWlIcAKHYAIDYgQyjcIMQ&ei=yBwZV6PfN6XDgAaAkbTACA#imgrc=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%3A

So are you volunteering to grow some breasts on your back to help out these mothers and their babies?

[supporttheunderdog]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

v

Not every mother can breast feed,...

[Lordo]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

little birdie tells me you are a biologist? even the word biology is greak ffs.


observe and learn my dear,

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mouse+with+human+ear+on+back&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=738&tbm=isch&imgil=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%253BAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.famouspictures.org%25252Fear-mouse%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%253A%252CAzEmZfLWZ_uxeM%252C_&usg=__iixyMdns_8Kjujtt70eoofwjRsg%3D&ved=0ahUKEwij4-L7rqDMAhWlIcAKHYAIDYgQyjcIMQ&ei=yBwZV6PfN6XDgAaAkbTACA#imgrc=LhEIl27ieLYx0M%3A

So are you volunteering to grow some breasts on your back to help out these mothers and their babies?

you asked how and i gave you the answer. a simple thanks would have sufficed. this is how you respond to all your other answers to your questions. you are one sick individual.

[supporttheunderdog]

Back to the topic

Are we now all agreed that
1) Under ec 2007/2004 , as amended, though the amendments do not change the basic position and irrelevent to the debate, , andin particular para 4,' which was not amended, the member nations, i.e Greece, are currently responsible for their external borders,
2)where the role of Frontex is limited in that role, and where in terms of providing assistance on tbe ground it is only at the invitation of the member state, eg Greece,
3)whereby following inspections carried out under the Schengen Evaluation regime The EU has found Serious deficiencies in how Greece was fulfilling certain obligations under the Schengen Border SBC
4) where on 12 Feb under article 19b SBC the Eu Council has required Greece to take steps to remedy those deficiencies,
5) where the EU council has also warned that if Greece does not do so in a satisfactory manner, steps may be taken under article 26 SBC to require Greece to impose border controls on the internal EU borders. (Which folllows through under the codified SBC )
6) that on 12th April the plan put together Greece has been referred back by the EU to Greece for clarification and amendment
7) that the provision of assistance in various forms to Greece does not and indeed cannot alter the fundamental legal position set out 1 to 5 above,


These are all, in my view confirmed truths, which if we can agree we can move on... If not.....can we have chapter and verse of the law which changes the legal position?

[GreekIslandGirl]

One must question what the arrangements are at this camp for procuring adequate nutrition and why they are not providing enough..

You are utterly clueless! Most mums have only two breasts with which to breastfeed their babies! How are you going to "arrange" to "procure" more?

v

Not every mother can breast feed,...

Fewer than 1% are naturally unable to breastfeed. If there are 2,000 migrants in a camp and (we are told) most are men, presumably about 1,500, then how many nursing mums are there likely to be out of those 500 mums, huh? Even if 400 women out of those 500 took on the crossings heavily pregnant (unlikely) and now have nursing babies, at most you'd have 4 or 5 mums who cannot feed their babies. That it's even become an issue is scandalous as I suspect Nestle want to get in there and get them all feeding formula in their quest for the capitalist life!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Back to the topic

Are we now all agreed that
1) Under ec 2007/2004 , as amended, though the amendments do not change the basic position and irrelevent to the debate, , andin particular para 4,' which was not amended, the member nations, i.e Greece, are currently responsible for their external borders,
2)where the role of Frontex is limited in that role, and where in terms of providing assistance on tbe ground it is only at the invitation of the member state, eg Greece,
3)whereby following inspections carried out under the Schengen Evaluation regime The EU has found Serious deficiencies in how Greece was fulfilling certain obligations under the Schengen Border SBC
4) where on 12 Feb under article 19b SBC the Eu Council has required Greece to take steps to remedy those deficiencies,
5) where the EU council has also warned that if Greece does not do so in a satisfactory manner, steps may be taken under article 26 SBC to require Greece to impose border controls on the internal EU borders. (Which folllows through under the codified SBC )
6) that on 12th April the plan put together Greece has been referred back by the EU to Greece for clarification and amendment
7) that the provision of assistance in various forms to Greece does not and indeed cannot alter the fundamental legal position set out 1 to 5 above,


These are all, in my view confirmed truths, which if we can agree we can move on... If not.....can we have chapter and verse of the law which changes the legal position?

Quite a few of your points are nonsense/irrelevant but it's not worth debating outdated stuff especially whilst it is ALL in a state of flux and under daily review!

[supporttheunderdog]

Typical evasive response which shows you are wrong, wrong wrong, because all represents current action under current law. Nothing outdated. You have had the invitation to point out the legislstion changes which make this outdated but once again have not done so. Rather The reasons you do not want to debate are that firstly the factual position as set out above is correct and secondly thst you are incapable of debate becuase you do not understand the process, which invloves rational arguement, supported where possible by verifiable evidence, which imho you are incapable of because you are irrational.

Rather as usual you are making a bland and unsupported if not irrational assertion, irrational because it is patently not true, which you hope by repeating it long enough people might either believe or we will simply give up with the futility of trying to hold rational debate with you. Well that does not work with me.

Either deal with the points made with evidence or go away. You are otherwise the looser here.

[GreekIslandGirl]

...the factual position as set out above is correct ...

The factual position is precisely the one you've ignored!

Those 'recommendations/evaluations' are NOT facts even if they were up to date at the time of processing.

The facts are what we see happening.