GreekIslandGirl wrote:A reminder from Page1, the EU's pledge:
There will no longer be shortages of staff or equipment for European border operations.
The recognition of how deficient Frontex
has been!
Since 2005 the role of Frontex, has been to promote, coordinate and develop integrated border management. However, until now Frontex had only been granted a limited role in supporting Member States to manage their external borders. The crisis has shown that the limitations of Frontex – limited resources in terms of staff and equipment, an inability to initiate and carry out return or border management operations and the absence of an explicit role to conduct search and rescue operations – have hindered its ability to effectively address significant increases of migratory pressure.
Let's hope this crisis has truly helped European solidarity and effective preparation for the future since belligerent, expansionist Turkey is NOW the
EU's direct neighbour and not just that of Greece.
This quote here actualy clearly demonstrates at least one inconsinsistency in your arguements about the role of Frontex as it was at material times ie as at November 2015 when serious deficiencies were identified on the part of Greece, and confirms my argument about the limited role of FRONTEX as enshrined by law. You hav claimed earlier FRONTEX was patrolling but here you have highlighted the inability of FRONTEX to carry out ... Border management operations. Do you accept that, that contrary to what you claimed earlier, Frontex was not performing border operations.
If so it flows from that that much of what you say is misconceived as it is based on false premise about the role of Frontex, which that one quote above by you confirms.
There is another logical error you made earlier when you refered to redundant EU decisions , those being the acceptance of the report finding serios deficiencies on the part of Greece and impostion of a requirement for Greece to correct them in a set time frame of three months. Now to describe decisions as redundant is to me an admission that such decisions were made. Now it appears to me that where they were made on the express basis of a finding that Greece was seriously deficient in fulfiling its obligations there is an implied acceptance that the EU had so stated they were deficient.
Can you therefore confirm you agree that the EU Commission and Council have both stated Greece was seriously deficient?
I am not asking you to agree it was a correct finding. That is a matter of opinion where you can try arguing with the people who made it, FRONTEX, the EU Commission and EU Council, not Erolz or I. I am simply asking you to confirm that , right or wrong, as a matter of Historical fact that is what the EU Commission and Council have stated.
I trust you can see the distinction between agreeing someone said something, as opposed to agreeing with what they said.
