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[GreekIslandGirl]

Since erolz is still confused, because of his love for 'can do no wrong Erdogan' ..... and somehow is still convinced Turkey has asked NATO to help Turkey ( ) transport migrants 'turfed' out of Turkey into Greece so that Turkey is made happy because this is what it kindly requested to obliging Merkel and this is what Turkey deserves - full NATO support to be free of migrants and still keep some 3 Billion euros too so that it turns the EU and NATO into a complete joke ...

Nato launches naval patrols to return migrants to Turkey

Military alliance sends three warships, backed by planes, to intercept migrants and refugees in admission from EU that it is failing to cope with flow of people
The German supply ship Bonn, which will lead the Nato flotilla heading for the Aegean Sea to help intercept the smuggling of migrants between Turkey and Greece.

Thursday Thursday 11 February 2016 19.11 GMT


Nato has sent a patrol of three warships to intercept migrants trying to reach Greece by sea and send them back to Turkey, as Europe steps up efforts to contain the refugee crisis.

The mission has been agreed and ordered to the Aegean sea in less than 24 hours, an extremely rapid move for the alliance. Nato normally spends months deliberating over decisions and agreeing details.

The German-led patrol will be backed by planes that can monitor the flow of people attempting illegal crossings. Greece and Turkey have agreed that any migrants they intercept will be sent back.

“They will not be taken back to Greece. The aim of the group is to have them taken back to Turkey. That is the crucial difference,” said the British defence secretary, Michael Fallon.


Turkey dismisses EU plan to resettle refugees in return for sealing sea route

“This is the first time we have seen a group tasked with returning migrants. That has not happened before. So that is quite an important development.”

The UK does not have any ships involved but is looking at how it could contribute, Fallon told journalists after a meeting of defence ministers in Brussels, where the plan was hammered out.

“It could definitely help save lives in the Aegean and it could help break the criminal gangs that are trafficking migrants from Turkey into Europe,” he added.

Nato and the EU have been keen to avoid any impression that they see refugees as a threat, and the alliance’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, initially denied that the ships would try to stop people from crossing into Europe. “This is not about stopping or pushing back refugee boats,” he said.

Germany’s defence minister, Ursula von der Leyen, had already indicated she favoured a far more robust approach and had secured Ankara’s permission to send some refugees back to Turkey, the Deutsche Welle newspaper reported.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... -to-turkey

Turkey has been told!

Erolz of course still propagates that Turkey asked NATO to send back its 'turfed' out migrants back to Turkey!

I hope Turkey gives back each migrant the thousands in money each gave to Turkish criminals to help them get to Greece if they are then returned!

[GreekIslandGirl]

... My logic is ....

...seriously lacking!

Greece offers to send migrants directly back to Turkey via Aegean Sea

Greece’s defense minister has said he wants an agreement with neighboring Turkey that would allow the European Union’s Frontex border agency to stop and turn back - within Turkish waters - boats carrying migrants to the Greek islands.

Panos Kammenos said on Feb. 8 that he has already made the proposal to his EU colleagues, who “showed great interest,” and will raise the matter with NATO officials.

He said Greek authorities are in a position to locate smugglers boats as they leave the nearby Turkish coast, as well as alert Frontex and the Turkish coast guard.

Kammenos said this would “stop the great migratory flow to Greece” and stop the deaths of migrants and refugees trying to reach Greece in rickety boats.

Now that's logic!

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greece ... sCatID=351

[erolz66]

In GiGland

Since erolz is till confused because of his love for 'can do no wrong Erdogan'

In the real world a mere handful of posts ago

The man, Erdogan, is imo a nutter.

I have no love of or for Erdogan. I do have a love and respect for honesty, truth, integrity and common decency. Which is why you behaviour over years and years is so distasteful to me. You have been pissing all over these things I love and respect for as long as you have been posting here. Your failure to understand this is not my responsibility.

Either this NATO action was a response to Erdogan''s threats made on Thursday last, or it was not. I know what you have claimed and I know what all the credible evidence and plain logic suggests and they are not the same thing. Discussion with you based on rationality and evidence is pointless.

So why will you not answer the poll here GiG ? Why cant you answer the poll ? What are you scared of ? As if the question even needs asking.

[GreekIslandGirl]

So why will you not answer the poll here GiG ? Why cant you answer the poll ? What are you scared of ? As if the question even needs asking.

You're a time wasting troll with a pro-Turkish agenda.

[erolz66]

Now that's logic!

Same old same old. Nothing changes.

Either this NATO action was a response to Erdogan's threats made on Thursday last, or it was not. I know what you have claimed and I know what all the credible evidence and plain logic suggests and they are not the same thing. Discussion with you based on rationality and evidence is pointless.

[supporttheunderdog]

Rueters report on the request being joint,....http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-idUSKCN0VJ2RL which is a valid a source as any other new media, which report mostly a joint approach by Greece and Turkey, both Nato members...

[erolz66]

So why will you not answer the poll here GiG ? Why cant you answer the poll ? What are you scared of ? As if the question even needs asking.

You're a time wasting troll.

So why will you not answer the poll here GiG ? Why cant you answer the poll ? What are you scared of ? As if the question even needs asking.

15 times across multiple threads and pages and pages of posts you screamed and shouted your 'assertion' (blatant distortion). Why will you not do the same in the simple poll here. Why CANT you ? Where is you conviction on the matter now GiG ?

[GreekIslandGirl]

... I know what all the credible evidence and plain logic suggests

Of course. Of course. You know it ALL. Like Erdogan - you're both omnipotent and omniscient.

Yes, Erdogan has threatened to "turf" out migrants. You're the only one who doesn't believe it even if it has been happening for months!

And yes, hopefully NATO is going in to stop him 'turfing' out more migrants!

[GreekIslandGirl]

15 times across multiple threads and pages and pages of posts

Exactly. You're a troll.

[supporttheunderdog]

Rueters report on the request being joint,....http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-idUSKCN0VJ2RL which is a valid a source as any other new media, which report mostly a joint approach by Greece and Turkey, both Nato members...

And the official NATO press release http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_127981.htm