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[B25]

...Schnauzer, what a joke; he votes, lol.

You can count the jokers of the forum one by one by just looking at who voted.
Even Lordo who is supposed to abstain from any forum activity fell in the trap

Does that also include the jokers who bothered to post on this thread??

[erolz66]

There is something wrong in fanaticism.

Really? Are all kinds of fanaticism wrong?

If you define a fanatic as someone with a exaggerated zeal for something to a degree that they suspend any and all rational critical process in regard to this thing, then fanaticism is always potentially dangerous in my view.

To consider yourself a fan of One Direction is not dangerous. To be so fanatical about one direction that you sell your house and all your worldly processions so you can follow them around the world on tour and have a tattoo of Zayn Malik done on your forehead would be dangerous.

[GreekIslandGirl]

There is something wrong in fanaticism.

Really? Are all kinds of fanaticism wrong?

If you define a fanatic as someone with a exaggerated zeal for something to a degree that they suspend any and all rational critical process in regard to this thing, then fanaticism is always potentially dangerous in my view.

To consider yourself a fan of One Direction is not dangerous. To be so fanatical about one direction that you sell your house and all your worldly processions so you can follow them around the world on tour and have a tattoo of Zayn Malik done on your forehead would be dangerous.

I don't see why a fanatic would necessarily suspend the rational critical process. In fact, I am quite a fanatic of the rational critical process!

(And I wouldn't waste my time and energy on obsessions with boy bands and my Elvis days are over.)

Most mothers would be described as fanatically protective of their offspring. That's about survival. I see Cyprus' and Greece's survival as critical. So, perfectly normal then.

[erolz66]

I don't see why a fanatic would necessarily suspend the rational critical process.

Well you need to use a dictionary then.

In fact, I am quite a fanatic of the rational critical process!

Clever oxymoron, but an oxymoron none the less.

Most mothers would be described as fanatically protective of their offspring.

Not if the word fanatical is used in it's correct meaning. Most mother are committed, dedicated to the protection and welfare of their offspring. To understand why a claim that "Most mothers would be described as fanatically protective of their offspring" is either a misuse of the word fanatical or just plain wrong, try using a thesaurus. A mother that was actually fanatically protective of their child may for example forbid that child to ever leave the house for fear that some harm will come to them if they do. Such fanatical protection of their child would be dangerous.

That's about survival. I see Cyprus' and Greece's survival as critical. So, perfectly normal then.

I have little doubt that you consider your fanatical zeal for both Cyprus and Greece and against Turkey and anything you deem as Turkish as 'perfectly normal'. That does not mean however that it actually is perfectly normal or that it is not dangerous. The very fact you are unable to see it as anything but 'perfectly normal' is in fact an aspect of that very fanaticism itself.

[Pyrpolizer]

...Schnauzer, what a joke; he votes, lol.

You can count the jokers of the forum one by one by just looking at who voted.
Even Lordo who is supposed to abstain from any forum activity fell in the trap

Does that also include the jokers who bothered to post on this thread??

There is no (willing or unwilling) trap in the discussion.
However there are 2 in the poll. One concerns the options themselves and the other the fact that it's not anonymous.
Just admit it, you voted without reading the warning in your hastiness to vote against someone, just like lordo did.

[erolz66]

To follow on from my post above

I will use a hypotetical to try and make my point clearer but one that is closely paralleled to what actually occurred.

Imagine I say

"The EU Commission was critical about Greece's implementation of it's Schengen obligations"

If in repose you were to say

"So what. It was only in a draft report and anyway the EU Commission itself has no powers to do anything but submit a recommendation to the EU Council and the whole thing is just 'political games' and posturing"

That would, in my view, represent a robust and committed defence of Greece.

If however you were to try and make out that in reality the EU Commission never even criticised Greece at all, by using an entirely different EU Commission report to the one in question, or by using the fact that the relevant draft report in full has not been made public even though the EU Commission itself had made it's conclusions public, or by trying to portray the official EU Commission press release as merely a 'discussion site'.

That would, in my view, represent fanaticism because it involves a suspension of rationality.

In reality this is not all you did (and do and pretty much always do), you of course also repeatedly 'screamed' (bold underlined 150 point text), attacked me in various ways and in your favourite way (labelling me a Turk - itself a non rational uncritical distortion of actual fact) and so and so on. These are the behaviours, as far as I am concerned, not of someone simply fiercely protective of Greece, but actually someone who has crossed over in to fanaticism.

[miltiades]

The result thus far is meaningless as the poll was fucking stupid.

Its like a poll asking who is the oldest, the most charming, charismatic and ....sexy member on the forum who never ...swears!!
Yours truly of course

[repulsewarrior]

Lordo, dude, didn't notice you.

[repulsewarrior]

Bill, eh Bill C.

...pou eisai, re?

hell you never know he may be silently lurking about, too.

[supporttheunderdog]

Can you help us make up our minds by giving an example or two, Please.

I'll mention the most recent first.

He hadn't posted for several days. Then, straight after I updated a thread with the news that the Greek fishermen (who rescued some migrants that were set adrift into danger from Turkey) were to be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize for their humanitarian bravery - he posted! His post derailed the thread with some irrelevant, off-topic stuff plus his own comment claiming that the EU Commission was threatening sanctions against Greece. This was a complete lie, but a clever lie as most people would assume it's true given the ramblings from the media. But when challenged he failed to substantiate it with any relevant evidence (because the EU Commission has issued no such threat of sanctions). It was one of his usual crafty lies where he takes some news, in this case noise over Schengen problems, and goes one step too far, exaggerates and distorts, in order to completely demonize.

This fulfillment of his personal anti-Greek propaganda was a particularly gruesome tactic since he was taking away any nice thoughts of possible humanitarian recognition from ordinary folk, something that we would all otherwise applaud.

He couldn't even tolerate a moment of niceness shared by humanity, because it was something good about ordinary Greek folk and he can only tolerate nastiness.

As to whether I post anti Greek / Cypriot propaganda, that's up to you to decide.

Here is a link to the EU official press report.,[url]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-174_en.htm[\url]

One has to wonder why if there was no criticism or threat that the Greek press is so vociferous in its response.