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[GreekIslandGirl]

That's my motto - you can never be too pro-Cyprus or too pro-Greek!

Yet everyone calls this being blind to faults or wearing rose-tinted spectacles.

When being pro Cypriot or pro Greek or pro anything becomes fanaticism, when you become so excessive in your zeal for that thing, that you become incapable or unwilling to see or accept reality any more, that is as far as I am concerned a problem. When you show the same level of fanaticism in being anti something and especially anti whole groups of people based on their nationality, ethnicity or religion then such fanaticism becomes even more pernicious I believe.

There were no doubt Nazis that believed you could never be too pro Germany or too anti Jewish.

Sure, wisdom is the knowledge of good and evil.

But what you pitifully fail to acknowledge, in your hate, is that Cyprus and Greece are nothing like Nazi Germany (Turkey is worse as Erdogan would be proud to announce). Cyprus and Greece are the good things on Earth.

You don't seem to have the ability to tell right from wrong.

In order to see the evil of Nazi Germany or Nazi Turkey then you have to appreciate the difference and acknowledge when there is also good in the world. You have proven you cannot distinguish the difference which is why when we were discussing the Nobel Peace Prize perhaps going to the Greek fishermen, your hatred spilled over.

[erolz66]

....I believe in a world where there will have been and will be those who have showed bravery and compassion and humanity to refugees, regardless of their own nationality,

And I believe these are just words to you

Well given that you can, when it suits you, believe that an EU Commission press release is a 'discussion site' you will have to forgive me for not holding much store in what you believe or claim here to believe.

as you didn't say any such thing about the brave Greek fisherman who saved all whom they saw regardless of whether they were Turks or Syrians or Afghans or whatever nationality.

The only reason this article was of interest to you was not because it praised ordinary people. Your only interest was because it praised ordinary GREEKS. If it had been praising ordinary Turks you would have had no interest. What is more I believe that even if it had of praised ordinary people generically , including Greeks and Turks and others you would have had no interest in it. So you can try and make out you posted as some kind of affirmation of the human spirit in general terms but I would just not consider that credible myself. You posted it because and only because it suited your relentless 'Greeks are good because they are Greeks - Turks (or Brits when it suits or Germans when it suits) are bad because they are Turks (or Brits or Germans)' propaganda.

Instead, you made a politically loaded statement

Actually first I merely quoted from a different article from the same media source as you. Then in response to your 'politically loaded statements' about Turkey I made the claim that "the EU Commission is criticising and threatening sanctions against Greece" which it did and is in fact.

and threw in a lie too - and that suggests you wanted attention diverted away from their goodness and instead bring eyes back to the troubles of Greece.

You can keep repeating that my statement was a lie incessantly, relentlessly over and over and it still does not make your assertion true. Yet let's not pretend that you 'stop there' at just calling the entire statement I made 'a lie'. No that is not enough for you driven by your fanatical zeal. No you have to go further and claim not only was it a lie but it was a lie that I "COMPLETELY created" (your capitals) as if there was absolutely no basis what so ever on which it could be said the EU threatened Greece with sanctions. Even that was not enough to satisfy you fanatical zeal you also had to try and make out that not only had the EU Commission not threatened Greece but actually they had not even criticised them. Exactly the kind of blatant denial of reality that get my blood boiling and leads me do despise such behaviour. Even now even you just shamelessly go on and on and on 'you lied', 'you lied'.

You are now defending yourself and that is all you excel at.

Here we go loopy loo.

[erolz66]

But what you pitifully fail to acknowledge, in your hate, is that Cyprus and Greece are nothing like Nazi Germany (Turkey is worse as Erdogan would be proud to announce).

It really is unfair of you to impose your lack of comprehension and fanatical world view on what I say. No where do I say being 'Cypriot' or 'Greek' is like being a Nazi. What I said was that being 'pro' something or 'anti' something to a degree that leads to fanaticism is dangerous. It was dangerous in the example I gave of Nazi Germany and it is dangerous elsewhere. I did not say that Cypriots were fanatics or Greeks are fanatics - I am saying YOU are a fanatic, or at least consistently behave here in way that is entirely compatible with being a fanatic.

You don't seem to have the ability to tell right from wrong.

Oh I am afraid I very much can tell right from wrong which is why, coupled with my Cypriot stubbornness, I clash with you so much on these forums in the way that I do.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The only reason this article was of interest to you was not because it praised ordinary people.

No, I generally take an interest in the Nobel peace Prize:

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I just happen to think, like many others, that it's not often enough it is given to ordinary (extraordinary) people.

And what's wrong with feeling good if fellow Greeks are rewarded for something? I'm happy when my friend's son gets a school prize, but I will be the first to admit, I am happiest when my son gets one too.

Are you going to tell us you are a robot and feel nothing when those closest to you gain recognition?

I love Cyprus and I love Greece more than any other places on earth. (Many Brits feel the same - it's not necessarily a birth thing - sometimes there really are special places for certain people.) I am happiest when anything good happens to either Cyprus or Greece and since they share similar loses because of Turkey - I doubly hate Turkey, if I could hate it any more.

[erolz66]

And what's wrong with feeling good if fellow Greeks are rewarded for something? I'm happy when my friend's son gets a school prize, but I will be the first to admit, I am happiest when my son gets one too.

There is nothing wrong in feeling good when fellow Greeks are rewarded for something. There is something wrong in fanaticism.

Are you going to tell us you are a robot and feel nothing when those closest to you gain recognition?

No I am telling you that there is something wrong when you behave in a manner consistent with being a fanatic - consistently for well over 10 years. I am happy when good things happen to and for and in Cyprus (north or south) but I will not deny things that are wrong in and with Cyprus (north or south). I will not deny them because I love Cyprus.

I love Cyprus and I love Greece more than any other places on earth. (Many Brits feel the same - it's not necessarily a birth thing - sometimes there really are special places for certain people.) I am happiest when anything good happens to either Cyprus or Greece and since they share similar loses because of Turkey - I doubly hate Turkey, if I could hate it any more.

To love ones country is a good thing. To love it to a degree that you feel you have to systematically deny and distort reality here on this forum is a bad thing. I have used this analogy before and I'll use it again. To love ones child who is a drug addict is a good thing. To love ones child who is a drug addict to a degree that you simply refuse to accept and deny they are a drug addict and where you denounce anyone who calls them such a liar, even when they have been found in the past unconscious with a needle in them arm - that is a bad thing. To me based on your history of posting here over 10 years, your love of Cyprus and Greece is much closer to the latter kind of 'love' than the former.

[repulsewarrior]

Very pleased to see Schnauzer back. Miss all his funny stories ....

(to hope that a small detail like that would be noticed, and commented upon) Just a vote, i doubt it, in a poll: because it serves him; what is that, i say?

More like a time bomb, this Individual, a suicide bomber, a pervert, pardon me, a sweaty little knob, a mindless button and a discharge, which as i have suggested, is best if he handled himself less frequently, and more carefully, in public.

...pleased, very pleased, as though Schnauzer, "is back", not a hello, not a Merry Christmas, no story to regale us with cheer, all this time, here, what has become of him?

Really; i ask: a rose stuffed up one's arse does it smell as sweet?

[Pyrpolizer]

....I believe in a world where there will have been and will be those who have showed bravery and compassion and humanity to refugees, regardless of their own nationality,

And I believe these are just words to you as you didn't say any such thing about the brave Greek fisherman who saved all whom they saw regardless of whether they were Turks or Syrians or Afghans or whatever nationality. Instead, you made a politically loaded statement and threw in a lie too - and that suggests you wanted attention diverted away from their goodness and instead bring eyes back to the troubles of Greece.

You are now defending yourself and that is all you excel at.

Wow! You are such a hyena when pissed off GIG! Have some mercy for poor erolz66. Say "''ημαρτον" erolz66, and all your sins will be forgiven

[Pyrpolizer]

...Schnauzer, what a joke; he votes, lol.

You can count the jokers of the forum one by one by just looking at who voted.
Even Lordo who is supposed to abstain from any forum activity fell in the trap

[erolz66]

Say "''ημαρτον" erolz66, and all your sins will be forgiven

My sin of GiG labelling me a Turk, even though I do not speak Turkish, have never lived in Turkey, have barely visited Turkey (have been to Vegas more times), have no family in Turkey that I am aware of do not hold and have never held Turkish citizenship ? Is that my sin ? Somehow I do not think this is a forgiveable 'sin' for the likes of GiG.

BTW I do realise your post was in humour, thanks for that and so am sorry for the less than humorous reply. I am, I am afraid, only human, though probably there are those here who would argue even that point.

[GreekIslandGirl]

There is something wrong in fanaticism.

Really? Are all kinds of fanaticism wrong?