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[Maximus]

I must add that unitary Cyprus is not what is being negotiated. If as a result of the negotiations that's what we have I will accept and respect it. My goal is for a peaceful and a strong Cypriot community regardless of unitary bbf or whatever.

It does not change the fact that your community's leadership have always put forward divisive and discriminatory proposals to create a backward regime and an apartheid state. Their views expressed at the negotiating table are the views of the majority of your community's and Turkey's. Which is the opposite of what you want and has a high probability of conflict if it every comes to pass. It does not matter how it's dressed up, it will not pass.

So, I don't know what you are arguing with the GC members on this forum for all the time and calling them haters. When you should be looking at your own.

And why is that Maximus? I don't know your age but my father who is 86 always tells me that he and the rest of the TC's were treated as second class citizens. You can't really blame them for looking for a solution that will put an end to discrimination. Why are you always referring to a "backward" regime? Are you to aware of the year we're in? 2015 is now where we're at. We have advanced and are right up to pace with the times. Do not make the mistake of comparing us to mainland Turks, we are Cypriots and we are as enlightened as you are.

How can your community always have been treated like second class citizens when they ruled over Cyprus for 5 centuries?

Then in 1960, your community denied democracy and still deny it to this day.

I'm guessing you are a lot younger than me Maximus, in which case there would be no point in me expecting you to understand the problems my father faced during those years.

Dont be naive. Your community 'ruled' over the GC's like they were 2nd class citizens for 5 centuries.

When the Brits arrived, they found an undeveloped poor country where the majority (the natives) were oppressed and lived like peasants under Ottoman rule. And a Ottoman minority that lived like pashas! They came to dismantle this oppressive empire that was subjugating other peoples in their lands and was spreading like a disease.

I want to know how your community could have been treated like second class citizens when they had an apartheid all that time and up to the point of conflict in the 1960's.

[Oceanside50]

The constitution discriminated against the majority. We all know who that was and is.

When a minority of 18% (does not matter what kind) of the population can veto the remaining 82% on all matters related to governance. You don't have democracy.

When a minority of 18% (does not matter what kind) of the population demands 30% of everything which is more than 50% per head than the remaining 82% of the population. You have discrimination.

The majority are inviting the minority to make economic and human development progress in a free and fair society within the European Union. But they don't want it. They ARGUE and choose to ignore world opinion and promote apartheid.They want Turkish guarantees in Cyprus and for Turkish settlers and all other nationalities that have settled illegally in the north to have precedence over refugees.

The majority are offering relative progress and prosperity but the minority are offering a backwards regime. They are offering to debase everyone with Turks and take everybody backwards and for the majority to pay for it. If the minority really are Cypriots and want the best for Cyprus why can't they say goodbye to Turkey and the settlers and accept democracy and the law with the majority of Cypriots?

They don't so I can only conclude that the minority is "Turkish" and has sh!t for brains. Which is dangerous for the majority if they get their way.

Thats a silly argument Maximus. A constitution is not like buying a second-hand car and then returning it because of a dodgy clutch. Cyprus got its independence based on the population of Cyprus. TC's were very much in the mix when the constitution was drawn. You will argue a gun was held to your head. Thats bollocks, you agreed to everything in the constitution and that is fact. Saying we have shit for brains and constantly insulting us is hardly going to help the situation, is it?

We are Cypriots and have every right to live in our own country in peace. You are the ones preventing us from doing this and its inhumane.

aren't you the ones handing flowers to the illegal occupier of cyprus, every july 20th... aren't you guys the ones that justify keeping the turk army in cyprus while you people live on others land and selling stolen lands to those dirty brits..and justifying all of this by telling yourselves all gc are evil eoka b and racist cypriots????

And us TC's really have choice in this? Come on guys, get a fucking grip will you. Turkey has us by the balls. They can cut our water supply. They can, at a drop of a hat stop salaries to civil servants. They can stop us from taking off on a flight from Cyprus. They have full control of what we do, where we go and how we spend our money.

Anytime anyone of us say a word against them we are told to shut up because they saved us from certain annihilation. So, I will end this session with a big THANK YOU for getting us into this shit in the fist place. ENOSIS ha? Lets get rid of the TC's ha? Nite nite.

if this is all so true then who are those people lining up to watch the illegal occupier parade?....

[MR-from-NG]

The constitution discriminated against the majority. We all know who that was and is.

When a minority of 18% (does not matter what kind) of the population can veto the remaining 82% on all matters related to governance. You don't have democracy.

When a minority of 18% (does not matter what kind) of the population demands 30% of everything which is more than 50% per head than the remaining 82% of the population. You have discrimination.

The majority are inviting the minority to make economic and human development progress in a free and fair society within the European Union. But they don't want it. They ARGUE and choose to ignore world opinion and promote apartheid.They want Turkish guarantees in Cyprus and for Turkish settlers and all other nationalities that have settled illegally in the north to have precedence over refugees.

The majority are offering relative progress and prosperity but the minority are offering a backwards regime. They are offering to debase everyone with Turks and take everybody backwards and for the majority to pay for it. If the minority really are Cypriots and want the best for Cyprus why can't they say goodbye to Turkey and the settlers and accept democracy and the law with the majority of Cypriots?

They don't so I can only conclude that the minority is "Turkish" and has sh!t for brains. Which is dangerous for the majority if they get their way.

Thats a silly argument Maximus. A constitution is not like buying a second-hand car and then returning it because of a dodgy clutch. Cyprus got its independence based on the population of Cyprus. TC's were very much in the mix when the constitution was drawn. You will argue a gun was held to your head. Thats bollocks, you agreed to everything in the constitution and that is fact. Saying we have shit for brains and constantly insulting us is hardly going to help the situation, is it?

We are Cypriots and have every right to live in our own country in peace. You are the ones preventing us from doing this and its inhumane.

aren't you the ones handing flowers to the illegal occupier of cyprus, every july 20th... aren't you guys the ones that justify keeping the turk army in cyprus while you people live on others land and selling stolen lands to those dirty brits..and justifying all of this by telling yourselves all gc are evil eoka b and racist cypriots????

And us TC's really have choice in this? Come on guys, get a fucking grip will you. Turkey has us by the balls. They can cut our water supply. They can, at a drop of a hat stop salaries to civil servants. They can stop us from taking off on a flight from Cyprus. They have full control of what we do, where we go and how we spend our money.

Anytime anyone of us say a word against them we are told to shut up because they saved us from certain annihilation. So, I will end this session with a big THANK YOU for getting us into this shit in the fist place. ENOSIS ha? Lets get rid of the TC's ha? Nite nite.

if this is all so true then who are those people lining up to watch the illegal occupier parade?....

I was about to go to bed but I will answer your question and will cary on tomorrow with the rest. Those you see at parades are school kids and their parents that are more less requested/forced to attend. I don't know of a single friend, or a family member that has ever attended such an event. Nice and civil chat Maximus and Sotos. Goodnight for now. We'll continue tomorrow, hopefully.

[Oceanside50]

if you personally and your friends that don't attend those parades had to choose, what would you choose?

[B25]

Froggy, why are you asking of the GCs this.

you should ask your own first

VP - Doesn't want Greek spoken around his kids

Mustbeadodo - wants to kill us all and is hunting us.

Yfuck - who wants Turkey to take the whole of Cyprus

You who criticises Turkey for not doing the job right by killing us all and taking the whole of Cyprus in '74

Shall I go on, I think you get the picture . And then you wonder why you are a hated peoples. Maybe there are a hardcore of anti TCs on this forum, but I assure you, it is very representative across most of the GCs.

The few Turkish cock sucks you get on here are just that, a few. You cannot seriously expect us to hand over Cyprus to Turkey/Gypsies/and some Ottoman remnants do you. A fair and viable settlement the GCs want, you and your lot on the other hand want discrimination/aparthaid and unfair gains on our losses. Well, you know what you can do. As for the President, if he isn't being bribed by the US/UK to accept an unacceptable deal, he won't get one from us the way he is going.

I'm sorry to say, but people living in glass houses should not throw stones.

I'm glad you responded B25. You are the reason I started this thread. Your reaction to a young TC man proposing to a young GC girl was what got me thinking how much hatred you have in you for TC's.

I live in Winchmore Hill, north London and it's predominantly GC and TC populated so its difficult to avoid each other. My daughter had a GC boyfriend back in the day (20 years or so ago) and do you know what? Even though I wasn't over the moon about it I certainly wasn't going to disown her if she chose to set up her life with him.

Yo however would disown your own flesh and blood if your daughter chose a TC. Why? Why the hell would anyone with any decency and humanity deprive their most valuable possession the right to make their own choice? How do you know they are not going to be most happy couple in the world? What gives you the right to even bring ethnicity in to the equation?

I said it in my post above I'll say it again. You are all educated and mature people but your hatred for us TC's (unjustifiably) make you behave like school kids. Grow up and face facts.

Your reply speaks volumes, not a single denial of any of the points i made. Seems it is YOU that hates GCs more than Cyprus.
If you are trying to score points using my comment, you failed big time, and my daughter would not be so desoerate of F stupid as to get involved with a TC in the furst place, that said I stand by what i said. Good night.

[miltiades]

You will find that those absorbed with hatred against the T/Cs are exactly the same as those that in 1974 invided Turkey to invade Cyprus. Same aspirations as those responsible for Turkey occupying a part of Cyprus, still possesed by Enosis virus, still see Greece as their motherland and in the process refer to any one with opposing views as "Turkish cock sucker".

All on this forum know me as a passionate Cypriot with my entire heart belonging to my ONLY motherland , the Paradise island of Cyprus.

[miltiades]

Forgot to mention that I would happily live next door to MR-FROM -NG and hundreds like him but no way would I live next to GR if they offered me the finest clarets in the world, neither would I live next to Lordos if he offered me free kebabs for the rest of my life, mind you I would live next to GIG if only to catch a glimpse of her voluptuous. ..figure?, that even at 42 years old is still in good shape, mind you although way too ...old for me i would def fall for her charm, intellect and ...natural assets !!

[DrCyprus]

Lordo-bey's kebabs are probably filled with ftimata because of his speech impediment.

[Lordo]

what thpeech impediment you thtupid fool.

as to johnny and living next door to me, god forbid what have i done to deserve such a fate.

as to living next door to oracle, the voluptuousness is flagging two steps behind her. you will be able to catch it easily.

[miltiades]

what thpeech impediment you thtupid fool.

as to johnny and living next door to me, god forbid what have i done to deserve such a fate.

as to living next door to oracle, the voluptuousness is flagging two steps behind her. you will be able to catch it easily.

You have the honour of being the only T/C that i would not wish to live next door to,not because you are a T/C mind you but because you are so bloody stupid !!