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[MR-from-NG]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

[Sotos]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

[MR-from-NG]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

You are full of shit. Why on earth do you think you lack international support in the Cyprus problem? You know better than I do but wouldn't dare post it because that would be doing a disservice to your friends, the hyenas of the forum.

The Brits, Americans, the Irish, the Scandinavians the Germans the Dutch, the whole world know exactly what you were up to in 63 and 74, especially 63. You may want to live in denial but it doesn't alter the facts. Why don't you explain to us all why nobody has ever come to your aid? And don't come back to me with UN resolutions shit because we all know they are as affective as a cat flap in an elephant house.

[Maximus]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

You are full of shit. Why on earth do you think you lack international support in the Cyprus problem? You know better than I do but wouldn't dare post it because that would be doing a disservice to your friends, the hyenas of the forum.

The Brits, Americans, the Irish, the Scandinavians the Germans the Dutch, the whole world know exactly what you were up to in 63 and 74, especially 63. You may want to live in denial but it doesn't alter the facts. Why don't you explain to us all why nobody has ever come to your aid? And don't come back to me with UN resolutions shit because we all know they are as affective as a cat flap in an elephant house.

I have a straight forward and simple question for you. I expect a simple and straight forward answer. Failure to answer will speak volumes in and of itself.

Its time to wake up!

You have one choice to end this stupid crap; Who's side would you be on and where would you choose to live if you had to choose between living in a democratic unitary Cyprus or living in democratic unitary Turkey?

[Zenon33]

MR-from-NG is a Cypriot
He and the rest of T/Cs can not be held to account for past events perpertrated by the Ottomans just as the German people can not be held to account for attrocities commited by the Nazis, any more than G/Cs can be held responsible for extremist actions perpertrated bu the fanatics , Toxni comes to mind.
Its time that we begin to concern our selves with the future of the young Cypriot generation and endure that they do not have to endure what the older cypriots went through.

Hating Turkish Cypriots can not be conducive to long term peace and stability. I know MR-from NG and Will defend his views without considering that he is anything other than a fellow Cypriot.

Thank you for your support my dear friend. I hope your post is read by those that are hell bent on distancing us TC's from our true identity. We are Cypriots, this is our homeland and nothing they say or do can change that. It would serve their country better if they embraced us instead of distancing us but will their hatred for anything Turkish allow them to do so? I can only hope.

No one hates "turk-cypriots". First, we are cypriots not greek or turk cypriots. We want to leave in peace in our territory. We only hate our first and only enemy, the Ottoman Empire.

[MR-from-NG]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

You are full of shit. Why on earth do you think you lack international support in the Cyprus problem? You know better than I do but wouldn't dare post it because that would be doing a disservice to your friends, the hyenas of the forum.

The Brits, Americans, the Irish, the Scandinavians the Germans the Dutch, the whole world know exactly what you were up to in 63 and 74, especially 63. You may want to live in denial but it doesn't alter the facts. Why don't you explain to us all why nobody has ever come to your aid? And don't come back to me with UN resolutions shit because we all know they are as affective as a cat flap in an elephant house.

I have a straight forward and simple question for you. I expect a simple and straight forward answer. Failure to answer will speak volumes in and of itself.

Its time to wake up!

You have one choice to end this stupid crap; Who's side would you be on and where would you choose to live if you had to choose between living in a democratic unitary Cyprus or living in democratic unitary Turkey?

When we left our home back in 64, in fear of our lives, Turkey was never mentioned as a safe-heaven for us. We came to England. I am Cypriot and my loyalty will always be to Cyprus.

[MR-from-NG]

MR-from-NG is a Cypriot
He and the rest of T/Cs can not be held to account for past events perpertrated by the Ottomans just as the German people can not be held to account for attrocities commited by the Nazis, any more than G/Cs can be held responsible for extremist actions perpertrated bu the fanatics , Toxni comes to mind.
Its time that we begin to concern our selves with the future of the young Cypriot generation and endure that they do not have to endure what the older cypriots went through.

Hating Turkish Cypriots can not be conducive to long term peace and stability. I know MR-from NG and Will defend his views without considering that he is anything other than a fellow Cypriot.

Thank you for your support my dear friend. I hope your post is read by those that are hell bent on distancing us TC's from our true identity. We are Cypriots, this is our homeland and nothing they say or do can change that. It would serve their country better if they embraced us instead of distancing us but will their hatred for anything Turkish allow them to do so? I can only hope.

No one hates "turk-cypriots". First, we are cypriots not greek or turk cypriots. We want to leave in peace in our territory. We only hate our first and only enemy, the Ottoman Empire.

Ottoman empire is no more, it's dead and buried. When you stop seeing us as Ottoman remnants then you may accept us as Cypriots.

[Lordo]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

You are full of shit. Why on earth do you think you lack international support in the Cyprus problem? You know better than I do but wouldn't dare post it because that would be doing a disservice to your friends, the hyenas of the forum.

The Brits, Americans, the Irish, the Scandinavians the Germans the Dutch, the whole world know exactly what you were up to in 63 and 74, especially 63. You may want to live in denial but it doesn't alter the facts. Why don't you explain to us all why nobody has ever come to your aid? And don't come back to me with UN resolutions shit because we all know they are as affective as a cat flap in an elephant house.

I have a straight forward and simple question for you. I expect a simple and straight forward answer. Failure to answer will speak volumes in and of itself.

Its time to wake up!

You have one choice to end this stupid crap; Who's side would you be on and where would you choose to live if you had to choose between living in a democratic unitary Cyprus or living in democratic unitary Turkey?

when you become democratic sure we all join you. but in the mean time i would not trust you as far as i can throw you my fascist little friend. in the mean time forget unitary state, it can only be a wet dream for you.

those fascists that were caught attacking tcs have they had their time in court yet. i bet they get community service and will be allowed to let others do it for them. you would not know democracy if it was a hundred mile an hour train and it hit you on the nose you arsehole.

[Sotos]

You didn't answer Froggy. Who is laughing at the Armenians who bring up the issue of the genocide? Didn't you say that the world would laugh if anybody brought up the crimes you committed during Ottoman times? You think the millions you killed are a joke? You think occupying our lands is a joke? You want to play the "victim" but then when the facts are presented you try to evade. The fact is that the Turks hold the world record in the biggest number of genocides and that in Cyprus you have always been the invading aggressors.

No you dickbrain, you are totally of the rails with your interpretation of what I'm saying. Who in their right mind would laugh at such a tragic atrocity? What I'm saying is it would be strange/laughable if Anastasiadis would just out of the blue bring genocide up during the negotiations and would use it as a tool to derail the talks.

Are you saying Anastasiadis should bring this subject up at every opportunity? Should he blame us TC's for this? It seems to me you are happy to blame us for anything that the Ottomans did, should Anastasiadis do the same?

Btw, we also suffered attempted genocide so we have had a taste of it and it's very traumatic/frightening to say the least.

Bullshit! What "attempted genocide" did you suffer? You are the ones who committed the first massacre of the conflict (June 12, 1958), and during the whole conflict both sides had some 100s of casualties! In 1571 you killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone in a single day. In 1821 you executed 486 innocent people in just a single day (9th of July), and in 1974 you killed 1000s and ethnically cleansed 200.000 in a couple of months... and then you will tell me that your few 100s of losses over a period of 10 years is an "attempted genocide"??? More people are killed in Cyprus in traffic accidents than that! It just goes to show that you don't have any real reason to excuse your demands and so you are trying to make up things to justify your position. If Akinci was to tell such crap in the negotiations of course Anastasiades would remind him that it is the Turks who are the invading criminals who have committed massive crimes in the past and are currently illegally occupying Cyprus!

You are full of shit. Why on earth do you think you lack international support in the Cyprus problem? You know better than I do but wouldn't dare post it because that would be doing a disservice to your friends, the hyenas of the forum.

The Brits, Americans, the Irish, the Scandinavians the Germans the Dutch, the whole world know exactly what you were up to in 63 and 74, especially 63. You may want to live in denial but it doesn't alter the facts. Why don't you explain to us all why nobody has ever come to your aid? And don't come back to me with UN resolutions shit because we all know they are as affective as a cat flap in an elephant house.

No country in the world recognizes your pseudo state and then you tell me that we are the ones who luck international support?? For a country to come to our aid it means risking the lives of their own soldiers in a war with Turkey. Of course no country would do that unless their own interests are threatened. The USA didn't enter WWII until their own troops were attacked. Does this mean that they approved the actions of Hitler until then?

[Maximus]

You are getting the responses and the 'welcome' that you are getting because of what you post, what you defend and your political position Mr-NG.

So be clear; Would choose a unitary democratic Cyprus? [yes or no]