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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:02 pm

famagusta1 wrote:I am sure no one here would openly support something as evil as a form of genocide on an entire ethnic group, regardless of who they are.


Yet, your Turkey is instigating genocide after genocide for centuries now.

famagusta1 wrote:I can see Turkey from my house, I couldn't see Greece with a Telescope.


You are not looking at Turkey, you are looking at Kurdistan.


famagusta1 wrote:Cyprus is just one Island too many and a little too far away for the international community to take a Greek claim seriously, in reality.


Is this the weight of your entire argument, that it wouldn't look nice on your map?

Here, educate yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:27 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
famagusta1 wrote:I can see Turkey from my house, I couldn't see Greece with a Telescope.


You are not looking at Turkey, you are looking at Kurdistan.


And Asia Minor.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:38 pm

...so famagusta 1, what you are saying, i suppose is that Turkish things should be "Turkish", and Greek things should belong to "Greek". If that is the case, Cyprus is Greek. And what about Cypriots?
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:38 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...so famagusta 1, what you are saying, i suppose is that Turkish things should be "Turkish", and Greek things should belong to "Greek". If that is the case, Cyprus is Greek. And what about Cypriots?

since when has cyprus been greak may i ask.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:49 pm

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...so famagusta 1, what you are saying, i suppose is that Turkish things should be "Turkish", and Greek things should belong to "Greek". If that is the case, Cyprus is Greek. And what about Cypriots?

since when has cyprus been greak may i ask.


Since the people of Cyprus started communicating with each other in Greek.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:04 pm

i'm still waiting for my reply from famagusta 1.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby famagusta1 » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:24 am

I have read some of the responses to my post and feel that one in particular does need to be addressed and corrected due to what is being implied. However, noting some of the members appear to have difficulty with current geography I fear my time may be wasted.


famagusta1 wrote:
I am sure no one here would openly support something as evil as a form of genocide on an entire ethnic group, regardless of who they are.

DrCyprus: Yet, your Turkey is instigating genocide after genocide for centuries now.


This response seems to imply that I am personally accepting of genocides that Turkey may or may not have committed, but this is certainly not the case and quite obviously not true from the point I made previously. I would imagine you were simply in a rush to respond and so did not notice I had written "regardless of who they are" and thus missing the fact that who the atrocity is committed by holds no bearing. As such the stance is quite clearly that genocide should not be supported by anyone under any circumstances.

Thankfully, it seems you and others are in agreement with me on this point. Although, please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby Sotos » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:05 pm

A genocide is what Turkey did to many peoples in Asia Minor. Earlier you said:

the end result is enosis with Greece by the political removal of an ethnic group then that would fit the definition of "destruction" in the above definition.


This is where you are wrong. Having just your human and maybe some minority rights and no other political powers is the what is NORMAL in all democratic countries for minorities such as yours.You call what is JUST, and NORMAL a "genocide", while the Turks hold the record of the greatest number of REAL genocides!
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby SolarCOmplex » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:17 pm

The likelihood of the Turkish being able to take over the whole of Cyprus and commit genocides against the Cypriots, I think is very low. NATO would not support Turkey and presumably the UN would get involved.

Also there are many Russians in Cyprus, Turkey and Russia are already on thin ice after Turkey gun downed two of their planes, I don't think Russia would tolerate any further nonsense from Turkey especially the gunning down of any Russian expats. If Turkey were to enrage Russia further, they won't be worrying over Northern Cyprus, they'll be worrying about being conquered by Russia.
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Re: Ranking the alternative outcomes of the Cyprus Problem

Postby kurupetos » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:22 pm

This will be interesting...
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