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[Tim Drayton]

He has also established cordial relations with Erdoğan in Turkey and Sisi in Egypt. The man likes dictators.

[Kikapu]

Hey, what happened to the US elections? I was away for few weeks.

I predicted that Hillary was going to win, although she seems to have won the popular vote, she has lost the electorate vote, hence the presidency.

Well now, I have to agree with Donald Duck Trump about one thing if nothing else, that the elections was RIGGED, except, it was rigged against Hillary and in favour of Trump with the stunt the FBI director pulled 9 days from the elections regarding opening the "email gate" again and closing it again 2 from the election. Up to that point, Hillary was sailing to victory.

So, let the fun begin with Donald Duck Trump. No pussy is going to be safe in the White House now!

[Tim Drayton]

Clinton did get slightly more votes that Trump, but they didn't stack up in the right way. I see a huge wave of reaction engulfing the Western world, in fact, fuelled by the votes of the angry losers under globalisation. The forces of globalisation that are driving living standards down in the West will continue, and even though those who exploit the fears and anger of the dispossessed to sweep into power with their politics of hate and prejudice have no way of halting these processes, it looks they will continue to win the support of those who find no hope elsewhere for some time to come. Sad days indeed for all who hold the values of the European Enlightenment dear.

[Tim Drayton]

In fact, I never thought I would find myself agreeing fully with an article in the Economist, yet I found myself doing just that with the article I quoted above.

The sentiment:

"The election of Mr Trump is a rebuff to all liberals, including this newspaper. The open markets and classically liberal democracy that we defend, and which had seemed to be affirmed in 1989, have been rejected by the electorate first in Britain and now in America. France, Italy and other European countries may well follow. It is clear that popular support for the Western order depended more on rapid growth and the galvanising effect of the Soviet threat than on intellectual conviction. Recently Western democracies have done too little to spread the benefits of prosperity."

strikes home with me. The masses went along with the prevailing order as long as it was delivering a higher standard of living to each generation than their parents had seen. That may no longer be possible in the West, and with it acceptance of that order, including things like the rule of law, freedom and speech and a free press, may increasingly come into question.

[miltiades]

I'm particularly pleased that this dreadful war in Syria could be coming to an end sooner than expected.
"But Donald J. Trump, the American president-elect, has gone a step further, at least in his remarks, suggesting that he will end all support to rebels and perhaps even treat the Syrian and Russian governments as allies in the fight against the Islamic State."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/world ... .html?_r=0

[Paphitis]

YOU are in Syria ? and YOU will remain in Syria.?
Mate, the priority, the only priority, is the end of this war. You have no say in the matter. You talk as if somehow YOU were running the coalition, you speak on behalf of the coaltion ?
Trump will talk to Putin and Trump will pull out.

I think you will find that the Coalition is the Alpha and Omega in both Syria and Iraq now.

Coalition is the beginning and end like the hand of God we are in charge in Mosul, and around Raqqa. We have our turf in Syria and hence we have a bargaining chip Pootin will never dare attack because that is a declaration of war against the Coalition.

We have all the momentum. Assad has nothing!

[Paphitis]

The POTUS has very little influence when it comes to things such as Russia, Syria, Iran and with the direction as dictated by important allies.

Stop trying to convince your self that the US regards the coalition as anything but 'Proxies'. Trump will do what suits America ..... do you think he gives a toss about the Aussies ? Be realistic ..... Australia is important to China and it is only that link that the US has concerns about. What happens to Australia if the US tells you to impose sanctions on China and stop supplying them with all the raw materials for their 'war machine'?

America is the leader of the Western World and needs consensus with NATO countries, Japan, Australia, South Korea in particular.

In other words, they can't unilaterally do the dirty on their allies.

The establishment is so set they want to burn the Iran Treaty which lifted the embargo.

Trump is already back tracking quite a bit. He is going to try and keep most of Obamacare. For Europe, that means they will be hit with Defence expenditure demands to meet minimum Quotas as defined by NATO. Everyone is gonna be told to pull their weight or else.

POTUS dictates very much of what is US foreign policy.

The US won't desert their allies ...... he will just put a commercial price on being their 'Friend'. NATO countries in Europe are already quaking at the knees at the prospect of having to stand on their own two feet. The sabre rattling against Russia will now cool down a bit as a result. His approach seems about right to me.

He is, as you say, changing his approach to many things he said during the election campaign ....... but it is early days yet.

No ..... he is not keeping MOST of Obama care ..... he is modifying his proposal to incorporate SOME aspects of Obama care. Again, that seems the right approach to me.

His biggest challenge will be dealing with the financial system and the ..... dare I say it ...... New World Order?

POTUS has appointed the Republican Establishment.

And no, he has very little input with regard to US relations with NATO countries, the EU, UK, Russia, Israel, Japan, Australia, and South Korea. No input at all and if the POTUS goes against the grain then we all know what will happen. The US Establishment will never allow it for starters, and the EU, NATO, Japan and Australia have too much influence in Washington as well.

[Paphitis]

Oh dearie me , some one will be very very unhappy:

" US President-elect Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin held their first telephone call on November 14. They discussed the crisis in Syria and agreed to improve the US-Russian relations.

The Kremlin said in a statement published on its website that the two leaders agreed that they share a common view on “uniting efforts in the fight with the common enemy number one – international terrorism and extremism” and discussed ways to settle the Syria crisis.

Trump and Putin paid attention to the importance of establishing a stable basis for bilateral relations by developing trade and economic ties between Russia and the US emphasized a need of “constructive cooperation.” Finally, they agreed to keep in contact by telephone and have discussed the idea of meeting in person.

Trump’s team has issued a statement on the phonecall saying Putin congratulated Trump on his election victory.

The statement says that Trump is “very much looking forward to having a strong and enduring relationship with Russia and the people of Russia.”
https://southfront.org/putin-trump-hold ... relations/

Trump has backpeddled on just about everything he said during the elections.

And he has made no indication about warmer relations with Pootin. Instead, he has re-affirmed the importance of NATO and the transatlantic agreement.

Better relations with Pootin will depend on Pootin's willingness to agree on transition in Syria.

[Paphitis]

Hey, what happened to the US elections? I was away for few weeks.

I predicted that Hillary was going to win, although she seems to have won the popular vote, she has lost the electorate vote, hence the presidency.

Well now, I have to agree with Donald Duck Trump about one thing if nothing else, that the elections was RIGGED, except, it was rigged against Hillary and in favour of Trump with the stunt the FBI director pulled 9 days from the elections regarding opening the "email gate" again and closing it again 2 from the election. Up to that point, Hillary was sailing to victory.

So, let the fun begin with Donald Duck Trump. No pussy is going to be safe in the White House now!

Kikapu,

one bit of advice.

I supported Clinton too but I accept the result and wish Trump well. Trump is now the most powerful leader of the free world. With that is a huge responsibility he has not just for America but for the greater alliance around the globe.

We have seen enough the last few years and even blatant disregard for the rule of law and Geneva Conventions. You don't have to like him as a human being but he now holds the office of POTUS which commands its respect as a vital institution of the free world.

I can in fact understand the reasons why Trump won. It was the American people who sent a FU to the Establishment, mostly from the Conservative Bible Belt and Rust Belt States who have lost manufacturing and also an FU to the neo liberals who tell people what they should think as well as the elite media.

[Paphitis]

Clinton did get slightly more votes that Trump, but they didn't stack up in the right way. I see a huge wave of reaction engulfing the Western world, in fact, fuelled by the votes of the angry losers under globalisation. The forces of globalisation that are driving living standards down in the West will continue, and even though those who exploit the fears and anger of the dispossessed to sweep into power with their politics of hate and prejudice have no way of halting these processes, it looks they will continue to win the support of those who find no hope elsewhere for some time to come. Sad days indeed for all who hold the values of the European Enlightenment dear.

Trump's ideas about introducing 35% tariffs against American businesses who have relocated their factories overseas is excellent and quite worthy of respect.

Provided he actually goes through with it because as it stands it doesn't look like he is keeping his word on anything, not even halting immigration.