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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:21 pm

Mass murderer.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby kurupetos » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:10 pm

Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:According to the BBC, the plane “is believed to have come down in a rebel-held area.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983



Once again, it seems Turkey are protecting IS-held territories.


Now we know that is not true. They were protecting Turkmen tribes.
But yes, Turkey is very close to DAESH/IS because of the Kurdish Question.

Hello btw GiG

Greetings to Paphitis too.


Yes, hello.

But, I don't think it means Turkey is not protecting ISIS - even if Turkey does also protect other terrorists like the Turkmen who shot at the parachuting pilots.

what does that make the pilot who was dropping bombs on them few seconds before. to hell with all those who are bombing syria.

The pilot was in Syrian air space, kuz. No Turks have the right to be there.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:22 pm

yeah but he should have been in moscow air space. thats what happens to people who lose their way. let that be a lesson to you. that air space is for syrians and the northern bit is for the terggmen. let that be a lesson to you so do not stray from your home.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:57 pm

A case of 'too many fingers in the pudding'.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:37 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:According to the BBC, the plane “is believed to have come down in a rebel-held area.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983



Once again, it seems Turkey are protecting IS-held territories.


Now we know that is not true. They were protecting Turkmen tribes.
But yes, Turkey is very close to DAESH/IS because of the Kurdish Question.

Hello btw GiG

Greetings to Paphitis too.


Yes, hello.

But, I don't think it means Turkey is not protecting ISIS - even if Turkey does also protect other terrorists like the Turkmen who shot at the parachuting pilots.


Every country in the coalition support the Turkmen - USA, UK, France, Australia, Jordan, UAE

They are merely trying to survive, and their numbers are small to be any real threat. They are only interested in defending their own patch, towns and villages.

How soon do you forget the DAESH siege against them where they were hours from complete annihilation and genocide along with the Yazidi who also have there own rebel group btw. There is also an Assyrian Rebel Group.

Are they all terrorists now because Pootin is trying to do what DAESH failed to do?

(Greetings Deniz)
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:56 am

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:According to the BBC, the plane “is believed to have come down in a rebel-held area.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983



Once again, it seems Turkey are protecting IS-held territories.


Now we know that is not true. They were protecting Turkmen tribes.
But yes, Turkey is very close to DAESH/IS because of the Kurdish Question.

Hello btw GiG

Greetings to Paphitis too.


Yes, hello.

But, I don't think it means Turkey is not protecting ISIS - even if Turkey does also protect other terrorists like the Turkmen who shot at the parachuting pilots.


Every country in the coalition support the Turkmen - USA, UK, France, Australia, Jordan, UAE

They are merely trying to survive, and their numbers are small to be any real threat. They are only interested in defending their own patch, towns and villages.

How soon do you forget the DAESH siege against them where they were hours from complete annihilation and genocide along with the Yazidi who also have there own rebel group btw. There is also an Assyrian Rebel Group.

Are they all terrorists now because Pootin is trying to do what DAESH failed to do?

(Greetings Deniz)


Are the Syrian Turkmen Alevi or Sunni?
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:13 am

DrCyprus wrote:
Are the Syrian Turkmen Alevi or Sunni?


Sunni.

Assyrians and Kurds are Sunni as well.

Yazidi are Christian.

They all have a right to survive and for them that is what this war is all about. Survival.

It's also one of the most humbling things to witness how the Assyrians, Kurds, Yazidi, and Turkmen have come together to help each other out as well as the FSA.

They all have a right to determine their own future and that of Syria.

Pootin has got himself into a HUGE mess. When you go in all guns blazing against minorities hell bent on surviving, you will LOSE the war. That is why they are at the Vienna Peace Talks which are really the Assad Surrender talks.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:47 pm

The United States Is in the Refugee-Creation Business
http://original.antiwar.com/Shane_Smith ... -business/

U.S. First Shields Its Torturers and War Criminals From Prosecution, Now Officially Honors Them
https://theintercept.com/2015/12/04/u-s ... nors-them/

US Downplays Turkish Acquisition of ISIS Oil
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/12/04/us-d ... -isis-oil/
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Zenon33 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:The United States Is in the Refugee-Creation Business
http://original.antiwar.com/Shane_Smith ... -business/

U.S. First Shields Its Torturers and War Criminals From Prosecution, Now Officially Honors Them
https://theintercept.com/2015/12/04/u-s ... nors-them/

US Downplays Turkish Acquisition of ISIS Oil
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/12/04/us-d ... -isis-oil/



I like this. Screw Erdogan.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:The United States Is in the Refugee-Creation Business
http://original.antiwar.com/Shane_Smith ... -business/

U.S. First Shields Its Torturers and War Criminals From Prosecution, Now Officially Honors Them
https://theintercept.com/2015/12/04/u-s ... nors-them/

US Downplays Turkish Acquisition of ISIS Oil
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/12/04/us-d ... -isis-oil/


That is because very little oil is being smuggled but instead used for internal consumption.

The coalition has also destroyed the vast majority of the refinery capability.

Who friggin cares about your propaganda links anyway, the coalition has broken their back and will continue to degrade them. Pootin has done bugger all. They were mainly bombing FSA and allies, then ramped up their effort against DAESH but now they are up to their old tricks.
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