Kikapu wrote:Kikapu wrote:Turkey shooting down the Russian jet is all beginning to make sense now.
I'll give you my analysis when I have time. All I can say right now is, Turkey took the bait and fell into the long awaited American's trap!
Here is my take on the shooting down of the Russian jet by Turkey.
I do believe it was a deliberate act by Turkey to shoot down the jet, almost laying and waiting for the jet, on the orders from the USA. Turks only saw the beneficial side of shooting the jet down by hoping to stop the Russians bombing Turkey's terrorist friends on the ground, along the Syrian-Turkish border. The Turks thought all they had to do was to produce some doctored radio recording about giving the Russian jets amble warnings to clear the area and all will be forgiven and forgotten, all the while when the Russian jets were still in Syrian airspace. The fact that there was no response from the Russian pilots on those recordings makes the recordings fake. Turkey claimed that the Russian jets were in it's airspace for 17 seconds. If true, so the fukcing what? Turkey has never claimed that the jet was shot in the Turkish airspace, therefore, the jet had to have been shot over Syrian airspace, which then makes Turkey taking an illegal action against the Russian jet. No wonder Putin is pissed off at Erdogan, specially if Erdogan assured Putin a week earlier at G20 that the Russian jets in the area would be safe. Putin's statement that "Turkey stabbed them in the back" leads me to believe that Erdogan lied to Putin. Airspace violations are generally handle with much greater care and procedures, including contact with the violating aircraft followed by instructions for them to obey, visual confirmation who the offenders are and so on.
So where do the Americans come into the picture you may ask? The Americans were getting annoyed by Erdogan bombing the PKK and even perhaps the YPG under the guise of bombing the ISIL, the same ISIL terrorist Turkey has been in bed with for years, or perhaps the YPG told the Americans that if the USA can't stop the Turks from bombing their PKK brothers, that they would stop fighting the ISIS on behalf of the Americans, so the Americans set Turkey up to shoot down the Russian jet, knowing full well that the Russian will be pissed off big time and take measures to stop the Turks operating in the Syrian airspace. The Americans were hoping perhaps that the Russian pilots would be safe upon parachuting, which they were not of course, even being helpless in the air floating back to earth. That's exactly what has happened. Turks will not dare to enter the Syrian airspace to bomb anyone now that the Russians have installed their S-400's and have made the Turkish jets their target. No wonder Turkey announced that their jets will not be entering Syrian airspace, because they know that NATO will not help them if their jets are targeted over the Syrian airspace. Erdogan fell into the American's trap by shooting down the Russian jet and is now crying like a baby that he want to meet with Putin.
Americans have been trying for the last few years to get Turkey into Syria to start the destruction of Turkey, but Turkey never took the bait, but finally, they now did and will pay through the nose. Funny thing is, Turkey has been asking for a "No Fly Zone" along their border with Syria for the last few years. Well, they have finally go it, except, it is their jets which won't be able to fly in these zones. Always be careful what you ask for, because you might not like it if you get it. More crying by Erdogan over not being able to use the Syrian airspace. Now the Kurds in Syria will be able to set up their state and Turkey won't be able to anything about it. This will eventually lead to Turkey's break-up, which will be a good thing for all concerned, including for the Turks. Peace at last in Turkey once the dust settles after it's break-up. As for Cyprus negotiations after the Russian jet shooting, I believe the GCs will not want to have a settlement at this point in time, not when Turkey's ass in the fire with the Russians. They too will want to wait for the dust to settle before going forward with any settelemt with the TCs.
you are talking out of your arse again you stupid fool. this is not the first time the russians crossed over and i suspect it will be the last time. the terggs have said before till the yanks declare a no fly zone they will not send jets into syria. the trggs have never bombed the kerds in iraq or syria, only the kerds who attack terggy and then cross over for protection. so much so that the iraqi kerds have told the terggish kerds they are not welcome in the area.
