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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:11 am

Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:25 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x


WW3 is not so bad.

I know many level headed people who are itching for a clash with Russia.

One thing you have to know, is that there is a lot of bad blood between the West and Russia, and Pootin reminds us of the Cold War. It's not anything the West has done. Pootin has been escalating these bad feelings for a couple of years now. Ordinarily, things may have gone well.

What shocks me is how an intelligent and level headed person like you is supporting Pootin. I can understand Cypriots on this forum supporting him. Mental Health seems to be a big issue as well as naivety on Cyprus Forum. But YOU supporting Pootin has me stumped.

I am impressed at your knowledge. A Rate 1 turn takes 2 minutes to complete through 360 degrees. When you are doing about 600+ knots, that is 10nms per minute. So in a minute, the time it takes for a fighter to turn 180 degrees, the fighter would have traveled more than 10 nms = 18.5 kms.

So the Russian Jet can be as far as 6 kms inside Turkish Airspace in 20 seconds, and that is significant enough to have even overflown Turkish Towns in the area.

But I simply have no clue why YOU of all people support Pootin and support him bombing minority groups and other factions in Syria aside from DAESH.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:39 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x


I tell you a true little story.

Once I had flown into Restricted Airspace accidentally. I was flying around its boundary and using Dead Reckoning to navigate - map to ground features and I was following a little Creek Bed. I was right on the boundary.

But when I got back, I was hauled in and given a warning because apparently I had violated the Airspace by about 100m.

The Restricted Area was assigned to the Australian Army and was a live fire range for artillery and missiles.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:18 am

Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x


WW3 is not so bad.


You blithering moron, do you realize what you are saying. WW3 NOT BAD !!!!
You are more stupid than I thought you were.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:50 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x


WW3 is not so bad.


You blithering moron, do you realize what you are saying. WW3 NOT BAD !!!!
You are more stupid than I thought you were.


You're a total dork.

Garavnoss and Get Real have been right about you all along.

A clash between Russia and America will be a 1 to 2 week affair.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:53 am

Paphitis wrote:
You're a total dork.

Garavnoss and Get Real have been right about you all along.

A clash between Russia and America will be a 1 to 2 week affair.


Congratulations Paphitis!

You started off as just another NATO mouthpiece, but now you have just gained the rank of Idiot jerk NATO mouthpiece. You have outdone yourself once again.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:
I look forward to more Russian and Syrian Jets being shot down. I think the Americans should have another accident! Another Oopsey moment!

I used to have respect for as a person who was reasonably level headed. But this sort of attitude puts you on the same level as ISIS and, if your attitude reflects that of those you support, then WWIII is just around the corner and not only Russia but the rest of the planet will be turned to glass!

I can see the reasononing as I am sure I have actually seen it in action over Cyprus and mentioned it in a previous post. (An aircraft doing a 18o degree turn, way in excess of a rate 1 turn) This technology has been proven to exist and the Russians are way ahead of the US when it comes to software applications. The argument promulgated here is sound.

Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE: A friend, George Abert, suggested a reason why the Turks shot down the Russian fighter-bomber over Syria. The Russians have a technology that they recently demonstrated against the newest US missile cruiser and Israel’s US jet fighters. The technology shuts down the communication systems of hostile forces, leaving them blind. He wonders if the Russian aircraft was shot down in order to encourage the Russians to use its unknown technology whenever Russian aircraft are in the vicinity of NATO and Israeli aircraft. He bets that the US has sent every Raven and ELINT specialist to the area in hopes that Russia’s use of the technology will allow them to learn enough about the system to duplicate it or learn how to block it.

Full article:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/24/turkey-has-destroyed-russias-delusion-of-western-cooperation-paul-craig-roberts/


If I were Erdogan, I would be afraid ..... very afraid! :x


WW3 is not so bad.


You blithering moron, do you realize what you are saying. WW3 NOT BAD !!!!
You are more stupid than I thought you were.


You're a total dork.

Garavnoss and Get Real have been right about you all along.

A clash between Russia and America will be a 1 to 2 week affair.

You are beyond redemption!!
You have now joined the clan of fucking psychopaths, so fuck off stupid moron.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:49 am

miltiades wrote:You are beyond redemption!!
You have now joined the clan of fucking psychopaths, so fuck off stupid moron.


You're absolutely disgraceful. No wonder Garavnoss and Get Real give you a hard time which I don't agree with because it seems too personal.

But regardless, it also seems you are the one who is always making personally driven threads about other people.

You need to open your mind and accept that there are other viewpoints different to yours and that Pootin is not Mr Popularity among many people and countries and for VERY good reason. The guy is lower than a snake.
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:53 am

DrCyprus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
You're a total dork.

Garavnoss and Get Real have been right about you all along.

A clash between Russia and America will be a 1 to 2 week affair.


Congratulations Paphitis!

You started off as just another NATO mouthpiece, but now you have just gained the rank of Idiot jerk NATO mouthpiece. You have outdone yourself once again.


Some people are very proud and nationalistic and rest assured there are many who wish they did what Turkey did just the other day.

And let me tell you that all of these people know a lot more than you. For instance, we all know Pootin is a coward with a loud bark and doesn't have the stomach to attack Turkey or any number of Western Allies so stick that WW3 where the sun don't shine.

Turkey can shoot down another one, and absolutely NOTHING will happen! Why? Because Pootin is just all talk and that is WHY we have to show him up for the coward and pretender he REALLY is!

There are many countries that rely on the West to do just that, and to not do it is a major betrayal of America's allies. Obama created this, and for that he should hang his head in shame. He had a responsibility to nip it in the butt!
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Re: Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:You are beyond redemption!!
You have now joined the clan of fucking psychopaths, so fuck off stupid moron.


You're absolutely disgraceful. No wonder Garavnoss and Get Real give you a hard time which I don't agree with because it seems too personal.

But regardless, it also seems you are the one who is always making personally driven threads about other people.

You need to open your mind and accept that there are other viewpoints different to yours and that Pootin is not Mr Popularity among many people and countries and for VERY good reason. The guy is lower than a snake.

ARHIDIA ! You fool, you think the world need a WW3 ?
You have proven your self to be an arsehole. What the fuck do you know about Putin yo moron?
He is polpular with his people.
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