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by **GreekIslandGirl** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:04 am

Garavnoss wrote:If there were no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East.

That simple, huh!

by **Paphitis** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:48 am

Garavnoss wrote:If there were no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East.

Really? And what about the divide between Sunni and Shiite, Saudi Arabia and Iran? There is more hatred there among Muslims than there is for the Jewish State.

And why erase an ancient civilization from its Holy Land where it has clearly belonged for more than 10,000 years? It's like saying that there will be peace with Turkey if the RoC never existed. :roll:

The Jewish and Cypriot bonds to the area are of biblical proportions and predate the Muslims by several centuries!

by **DrCyprus** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:If there were no Israel, there would be peace in the Middle East.

Really? And what about the divide between Sunni and Shiite, Saudi Arabia and Iran? There is more hatred there among Muslims than there is for the Jewish State.

And why erase an ancient civilization from its Holy Land where it has clearly belonged for more than 10,000 years? It's like saying that there will be peace with Turkey if the RoC never existed.

The Jewish and Cypriot bonds to the area are of biblical proportions and predate the Muslims by several centuries!

Muslims are not an ethnicity.

by **Lordo** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:37 pm

it is easier to fight the western powers in the west than in the middle east. stop the war in the middle east. stop drone attacks. then you may begin to solve the problem. the problem itself is too deep to stop that but it will eventually burn out so long as it is not fuelled by the west. the iran shia vs saudi suni is a caused by the west so is muslim vs israel. this war will have just got uglier and will get uglier still.

time to evaluate this is not a winnable war. learn from the past. the ira was not defeated. a political solution stopped the killings and it is still not solved. but at least the people are not being killed every week. the same thing can happen in the middle east. listen to what the middle easterners. they have the right to define their own future.

americans go home and take your kind with you.

by **Sotos** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:07 pm

Lordo wrote:it is easier to fight the western powers in the west than in the middle east. stop the war in the middle east. stop drone attacks. then you may begin to solve the problem. the problem itself is too deep to stop that but it will eventually burn out so long as it is not fuelled by the west. the iran shia vs saudi suni is a caused by the west so is muslim vs israel. this war will have just got uglier and will get uglier still.

time to evaluate this is not a winnable war. learn from the past. the ira was not defeated. a political solution stopped the killings and it is still not solved. but at least the people are not being killed every week. the same thing can happen in the middle east. listen to what the middle easterners. they have the right to define their own future.

americans go home and take your kind with you.

The war was started by ISIS. Are you saying to stop fighting against ISIS and to let them take the whole Syria, Iraq and who knows what else will come next?

by **DrCyprus** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:19 pm

Sotos wrote:
Lordo wrote:it is easier to fight the western powers in the west than in the middle east. stop the war in the middle east. stop drone attacks. then you may begin to solve the problem. the problem itself is too deep to stop that but it will eventually burn out so long as it is not fuelled by the west. the iran shia vs saudi suni is a caused by the west so is muslim vs israel. this war will have just got uglier and will get uglier still.

time to evaluate this is not a winnable war. learn from the past. the ira was not defeated. a political solution stopped the killings and it is still not solved. but at least the people are not being killed every week. the same thing can happen in the middle east. listen to what the middle easterners. they have the right to define their own future.

americans go home and take your kind with you.

The war was started by ISIS. Are you saying to stop fighting against ISIS and to let them take the whole Syria, Iraq and who knows what else will come next?

What he is saying is that if the NATO coalition hadn't thrown the whole M.E. region into chaos these extremists ISIS groups wouldn't have come about in the first place.

Our sold out media set us up real good to just accept all these stupid wars and the price is paid with the lives of civilians in France and Lebanon and Syria and Russia and the whole world.

by **Paphitis** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:33 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Lordo wrote:it is easier to fight the western powers in the west than in the middle east. stop the war in the middle east. stop drone attacks. then you may begin to solve the problem. the problem itself is too deep to stop that but it will eventually burn out so long as it is not fuelled by the west. the iran shia vs saudi suni is a caused by the west so is muslim vs israel. this war will have just got uglier and will get uglier still.

time to evaluate this is not a winnable war. learn from the past. the ira was not defeated. a political solution stopped the killings and it is still not solved. but at least the people are not being killed every week. the same thing can happen in the middle east. listen to what the middle easterners. they have the right to define their own future.

americans go home and take your kind with you.

The war was started by ISIS. Are you saying to stop fighting against ISIS and to let them take the whole Syria, Iraq and who knows what else will come next?

What he is saying is that if the NATO coalition hadn't thrown the whole M.E. region into chaos these extremists ISIS groups wouldn't have come about in the first place.

Our sold out media set us up real good to just accept all these stupid wars and the price is paid with the lives of civilians in France and Lebanon and Syria and Russia and the whole world.

It's complete and utter nonsense because the West and NATO had absolutely no involvement in Syria where ISIL formed although it is true that they may have exploited the Western created vacuum in Iraq.

In the end, the coalition can't depart and leave ISIL to its own devices hoping that peace will occur after they no doubt create an illegal caliphate which will undoubtedly cause more issues and wars down the track, ethnic cleansing against the SHIA and possibly genocide.

That is just nonsense!

by **Get Real!** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:35 pm

So should we assume that France and that criminal Hollande, have finally learned their lesson and will henceforth stop sponsoring terrorism?

I for one doubt it... :roll:

by **Lordo** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:39 pm

Sotos wrote:
Lordo wrote:it is easier to fight the western powers in the west than in the middle east. stop the war in the middle east. stop drone attacks. then you may begin to solve the problem. the problem itself is too deep to stop that but it will eventually burn out so long as it is not fuelled by the west. the iran shia vs saudi suni is a caused by the west so is muslim vs israel. this war will have just got uglier and will get uglier still.

time to evaluate this is not a winnable war. learn from the past. the ira was not defeated. a political solution stopped the killings and it is still not solved. but at least the people are not being killed every week. the same thing can happen in the middle east. listen to what the middle easterners. they have the right to define their own future.

americans go home and take your kind with you.

The war was started by ISIS. Are you saying to stop fighting against ISIS and to let them take the whole Syria, Iraq and who knows what else will come next?

i could have sworn it was the yanks who invaded afghanistan and iraq that started it. but who am i to challenge intelectual such as you, you stupid boy. now go back to your cot you hear before mummy tells you off for being a naughty boy.