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[Jerry]

It is NOT implied that people who are not native should leave. That is like saying that almost all Americans should leave from the USA because they are not Native Americans or that all Whites should leave from South Africa. I will ask you the same question as I asked Erolz: Are the children, grandchildren etc of the Settlers "Cypriots"? In your case I will go a step further: Are they NATIVE Cypriots? I think the answer is clearly that they are NOT native Cypriots, so there is a cut-off point somewhere, otherwise everybody born in Cyprus would be "native Cypriot". The Turks came to Cyprus at about the same time that the English, Spanish, French etc were colonizing America, Africa, Australia, Asia etc... and those Europeans are clearly not considered native in those parts of the world. The native people could certainly have some additional rights in the cases that those people are now minorities... but in our case that we are the majority we don't need any additional rights other than the standard Human and Majority Rights.

That's how you come across Sotos, "they should not be here" - that being the case they should be elsewhere. I said earlier "I agree those that arrived after 1974 should not be here", however Human Rights legislation, I'm afraid, does give them, or their off spring, certain rights even though they came to the ROC illegally.

You appear to confuse majority rights with "native" rights. Turkish Cypriots who have been in Cyprus for generations should have exactly the same individual rights as Greek Cypriots even though they, according to you, are not "native". However how a minority community of 18% can be equated to the majority is beyond me.

[erolz66]

The official document is rather more important than your own inflated opinions on the matter.

Indeed it is just as it is more important than your inflated blatant and crude lies and distortions as to what was said by whom in this official document and what that represents.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The official document is rather more important than your own inflated opinions on the matter.

Indeed it is just as it is more important than your inflated blatant and crude lies and distortions as to what was said by whom in this official document and what that represents.

My quotes are 100% genuine. Sourced!

It's your raffled ego that's struggling to denigrate me in order to try and discredit the OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Anyway ....... lovely discussion .... but must go and decorate now ....

She means back to the bottle.........hic

No such luck! But I might be high on paint fumes!

[erolz66]

However how a minority community of 18% can be equated to the majority is beyond me.

If you believe that TC and GC are separate and distinct peoples then how could in 1959, before the existence of Cyprus as a sovereign nation state or Country, those two groups NOT have a separate right to self determination of PEOPLES ?

[cypriotnado]

Seems like the Turks like GR better... probably the idiot wonders why

Is it the 'Turks' who like GR better or is it those Cypriots who refuse to accept that GC and TC are in fact two different and separate people with far more things that make them different from each other than those things that make both Cypriot, that like GR perspective better ?

Numerous Greek and Turkish Cypriots work constructively and daily for a United Cyprus. Don't be depressed by these morons. They are fossils trapped by hatred. They are racist, bitter and twisted and unable to move on or to argue with any logic. What is encouraging Is that this type of stupidity is now increasingly being challenged within each community.

What does "United Cyprus" mean for you? How many governments? How much discrimination based on ethnicity? How much land from what you stole from us you get to keep? Fucking hypocrite

Blah blah .....more racist bullshit from an old Enosis fossil.

We each have our views on a future vision of Cyprus Mine does not involve Union with Greece or Taksim. But as with all the main political parties and international institutions, I support the bi bi com solution. How much land etc I leave to the politicians. But at a guess I would say the Turksih cypriot state should be around 20 -25%.

[Sotos]

Seems like the Turks like GR better... probably the idiot wonders why

Is it the 'Turks' who like GR better or is it those Cypriots who refuse to accept that GC and TC are in fact two different and separate people with far more things that make them different from each other than those things that make both Cypriot, that like GR perspective better ?

Numerous Greek and Turkish Cypriots work constructively and daily for a United Cyprus. Don't be depressed by these morons. They are fossils trapped by hatred. They are racist, bitter and twisted and unable to move on or to argue with any logic. What is encouraging Is that this type of stupidity is now increasingly being challenged within each community.

What does "United Cyprus" mean for you? How many governments? How much discrimination based on ethnicity? How much land from what you stole from us you get to keep? Fucking hypocrite

Blah blah .....more racist bullshit from an old Enosis fossil.

We each have our views on a future vision of Cyprus Mine does not involve Union with Greece. But as with all the main political parties and international institutions, I support the bi bi com solution. How much land etc I leave to the politicians. But at a guess I would say the Turksih cypriot state should be around 20 -25%.

Fuck off invader. The only "Turkish State" that will ever exist in Cyprus is the illegal one you already have.

[erolz66]

My quotes are 100% genuine. Sourced!

Are you really trying to argue it is impossible to distort what something means by partial quoting and taking things out of context and creating false impression about WHO said something ? In any case Your assertions (read lies) that 'the British' recognised this (rather than the truth - a British person suggested it) and 'admitted' it and your implication that it represented British POLICY are not quoted from anything at all. They are YOUR own inflated distortions made up to suit your propaganda needs.

It's your raffled ego that's struggling to denigrate me in order to try and discredit the OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS.

What has 'raffled' [sic] me is your blatant and crude attempts to distort the truth of what was said in this official document, who said it and what them saying it represents. Saying that the section you quoted was in fact the suggestion of a single British diplomat and NOT the view or policy of 'the British' or of the policy committee is not discrediting the official document - it is the TRUTH, something that is of no relevance to you compared to your need to push your propaganda version.

[cypriotnado]

Sotos soooooo rude......can't debate so your getting more and more abusive. Tell me at night do you play with yourself to Nicos Sampson military snaps or are you more of a spank me Grivas boy.

[GreekIslandGirl]

My quotes are 100% genuine. Sourced!

Are you really trying to argue it is impossible to distort what something means by partial quoting

It was the full quote pertaining to the matter in hand. There's a lot worse. Maybe that's what you've been trying to stop me from posting.

- Maybe when I finish my next chore, I'll post some more!