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[DrCyprus]

there are some thick bastards here. how would the tcs forget their turkishness by 1974 when you griiks have not forgotten your griikness by 2015. how fucking stupid are boy having wet dreams like gig on enosising to this day. fuck off out of cyprus the lot of you

don ilio me to fisiman boris naton isvisis?

[erolz66]

That's OK - You'd have to believe everyone is that stupid to think you could have any quotes to support your blatant lies.

18 pages back when I bothered to point out how you had blatantly distorted what the quoted document was, who it was for and who said what within it to suit your needs I also predicted that

That you will now spend countless posts trying to deny your distortion, or distract from them with any number of your usual techniques is just business as usual. I have seen it all before too many times.

You are so predictable. No one on these forums show such utter contempt for truth as you. No one wilfully distorts truth as systematically and persistently as you to suit your needs. You could take a reports that said 'Poultry like chickens and turkey poses a threat to human health' and quote only the section 'Turkey poses a threat to human health' and when it is pointed out to you that the reports is about poultry and not the country Turkey you would just spend pages and pages defending you claim on the basis 'my quote is 100% factual' or distracting from the truth that it is about poultry and not countries and accusing anyone who points the truth out to you that they are the ones distorting truth. This is what you do. It is what you have always done, for year after year after year.

[GreekIslandGirl]

18 pages back when I bothered to blah blah blah blah ...

Why can't you give me the quote, erolz?

[erolz66]

18 pages back when I bothered to blah blah blah blah ...

Why can't you give me the quote, erolz?

Because I refuse to play your games of distraction and distortion that I predicted you would play all those pages back. Because when the truth is irrelevant to you there is no point in responding to your screaming, as we have seen in this very thread, when you claimed 'you have not shown where Mallinson wrote that the document was for the policy committee' even though I had shown exactly that multiple times.

As far as I am concerned GiG you have shown over and over and over again that to you defending and pushing your view is simply more important than actual truth. That to defend 'Greekness' is some kind of higher moral imperative than actual truth, so any time in your head that imperative is at odds with actual truth the right thing to do is to sacrifice truth to that imperative. This is what you do, it is what you have always done. You may think that no one sees that this is what you do and have always done but I know this is not true of myself and suspect it is no true of many others also.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Why can't you give me the quote, erolz?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Meanwhile, trying to ignore blatant derailing tactics and continue with extracts from the document of interest.

14. (a) If Mr. Tuomioja can be relied upon to keep what passes in the interview confidential he should be informed, in strict confidence, of the British Government's view on the type of solution (enosis or Greek Cypriot dominated unitary state) which offers the best hope of meeting the real interests of all the parties most directly concerned.

[Lordo]

no no no dont - we have lost the will to live.

[erolz66]

Meanwhile, trying to ignore blatant derailing tactics and continue with extracts from the document of interest.

14. (a) If Mr. Tuomioja can be relied upon to keep what passes in the interview confidential he should be informed, in strict confidence, of the British Government's view on the type of solution (enosis or Greek Cypriot dominated unitary state) which offers the best hope of meeting the real interests of all the parties most directly concerned.

Classic straw man. Who is arguing that the document does not show that at that point in time 'the British' were of the view that enosis or Greek Cypriot dominated unitary state offered the best hope of meeting the real interests of all parties ? No one is arguing this. I am not arguing this because unlike you I do not (habitually, persistently, continuously, year after year) sacrifice and murder truth to suit my needs.

However the above is not what you presented the document as showing all those pages ago. What you tried to make out it showed all those pages ago and could only do so by distorting truth were things like

Any efforts at a united front by Cypriots were thwarted by the external self-interested Turk-TCs

and

They had made a mistake ever involving the external Turk-TCs in the 1960 constitution.

and

that it was Official British policy and the official advise of 'the British' to the RoC that TC should be given financial and other help to resettle outside of Cyprus.

and

we do now have some released British views on who was responsible for tearing up Cyprus, don't we?

and

Finally, the British admitted, the root to a unitary state was to remove 'those Turkish Cypriots'!

and

The British knew what a nasty piece of work was Turkey ....

and on and on and on.

So to take one example, the original one from all those pages back, the truth is this document does NOT show that it was an official policy or aim of 'the British' in 1964 to give TC financial and other help to resettle them outside of Cyprus and advise the RoC government to do so. The truth is that the document shows this was in fact a suggestion of the then high commissioner - nothing more and nothing less - though nothing more did not suit your needs. The only way that you could try and present it as being official policy or an official aim of 'the British' government was to distort the TRUTH of what the document shows, by distorting the truth of who the document attributed the part you quoted to, distorting what that persons role was (with regard to making policy and setting government aims), distorting for whom the document was created for - who the intended recipient of it was - and on and on and on.

This is what you do. This is what you have always done.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Classic straw man.

Why can't you give me the quote, straw man?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Ignore straw man's derailing tactics, continue with said document of interest for "Cynical Engineering" topic!

British Aims for Cyprus

8. For these reasons we hope that the possibility of achieving enosis will not be too readily set aside.