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[GreekIslandGirl]

and ...

14 (c) If Mr Tuomioja and others reach the conclusion that a "pro-Greek" solution is the only possible one the main problems will be to bring the Turks to accept the conclusion. *

.... see Insan, they knew what those nasty Turks were up to!

(*Mallinson)

[GreekIslandGirl]

Defence and Oversea Policy (Official) committee D.O. (O) (64) 26 Brief.

British Aims for Cyprus

5. The High Commissioner concludes that although enosis is in some ways more attractive than the unitary state, Turkey's objections to it are so strong that it may not be a practicable solution at present. He suggests, therefore, that effort should be concentrated on easing the path to the unitary state, e.g. by providing U.N. safeguards for the minority and by giving financial and other assistance for the resettling of those Turkish Cypriots to whom Cyprus may no longer appear a tolerable home.

Gotcha!

[insan]

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14 (c) If Mr Tuomioja and others reach the conclusion that a "pro-Greek" solution is the only possible one the main problems will be to bring the Turks to accept the conclusion. *

.... see Insan, they knew what those nasty Turks were up to!

(*Mallinson)

If this, if that... all food for thought... the consideration number 14... a very low possibility... course of events in and out of Cyprus brought a new phase to Cyprus problem that even that or those short-sighted so-called British policy makers shocked by the developments... Have a good night GIG... you have every right to defend your position and opinions but don't do this with incpmplete pictures... it strongly gives us the impression that you have a lot to hide for the self-interests...

[GreekIslandGirl]

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14 (c) If Mr Tuomioja and others reach the conclusion that a "pro-Greek" solution is the only possible one the main problems will be to bring the Turks to accept the conclusion. *

.... see Insan, they knew what those nasty Turks were up to!

(*Mallinson)

If this, if that... all food for thought... the consideration number 14... a very low possibility... course of events in and out of Cyprus brought a new phase to Cyprus problem that even that or those short-sighted so-called British policy makers shocked by the developments... Have a good night GIG... you have every right to defend your position and opinions but don't do this with incpmplete pictures... it strongly give us the impression that you have a lot to hide for the self-interests...

How are the quotes relevantly incomplete? Tell me, how have the statements altered by seeing the rest of the jargon? Not a jot!

I typed out clear, concise, precise quotes to counter the comments as they were brought up. It was erolz who tried to cloud the issue. So he screen-captured more (great) and what have we got? EXACTLY the meat of what I quoted! Happy?

The more these get distributed the better!

[insan]

and ...

14 (c) If Mr Tuomioja and others reach the conclusion that a "pro-Greek" solution is the only possible one the main problems will be to bring the Turks to accept the conclusion. *

.... see Insan, they knew what those nasty Turks were up to!

(*Mallinson)

If this, if that... all food for thought... the consideration number 14... a very low possibility... course of events in and out of Cyprus brought a new phase to Cyprus problem that even that or those short-sighted so-called British policy makers shocked by the developments... Have a good night GIG... you have every right to defend your position and opinions but don't do this with incpmplete pictures... it strongly give us the impression that you have a lot to hide for the self-interests...

How are the quotes relevantly incomplete? Tell me, how have the statements altered by seeing the rest of the jargon? Not a jot!

I typed out clear, concise, precise quotes to counter the comments as they were brought up. It was erolz who tried to cloud the issue. So he screen-captured more (great) and what have we got? EXACTLY the meat of what I quoted! Happy?

The more these get distributed the better!

Some more... from you own sources of Moma Greece:

Newly released British Documents for the year 1974 at the Public Records Office.

The British Government gives tacit clearance to Turkey to proceed with invasion and agrees to blockade the Greeks from helping Cyprus.

http://www.greece.org/hec01/www/project ... eason1.htm

Why did the British government change it's mind in 1974, even most probably any point before 1974?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Why did the British government change it's mind in 1974, even most probably any point before 1974?

It didn't 'change its mind' about the Turks. It just jumped into bed with them. Secured its Bases. Thwarted possible USSR influence. Many reasons.

[insan]

Why did the British government change it's mind in 1974, even most probably any point before 1974?

It didn't 'change its mind' about the Turks. It just jumped into bed with them. Secured its Bases. Thwarted possible USSR influence. Many reasons.

"UK behind Turkish terrorism in Cyprus

According to the BBC Radio 4 documentary programme “Document” transmitted on Monday 23 January 2006 evidence exists which shows that the UK was directly behind Turkish terrorism in Cyprus after it gained its independence in 1960 in order to bring about the partition of the island."

"Other documents show that other members of British armed forces were up to their necks in gun running and espionage for the Turks and Turkish Cypriot terrorist militias.

In May 1964 senior RAF aircraftsman Keith Marley was arrested by Cypriot police after they discovered two mortars in the boot of his car along with incriminating letters from senior member of Turkeys civilian militias.

Documents from the national archives in London show that three other airmen were involved, the ringleader being corporal Sam Bass."

http://www.greece.org/hec01/www/projects/cyprus/MI6.htm


How comes? While they were supporting Enosis after the events of 63? There must be 2 versions of these so-called declassified documents or one version should be fake...

[erolz66]

Your screen capturing doesn't nullify what I said, now does it, but actually confirms how in-keeping the quotes were.

No the screen shots show clealry how what you said and what you tried to imply are just not true. Nothing new there then.

and the fact it WAS....

Defence and Oversea Policy (Official) Committee D.O. (O) (64) 26 Brief.

A paper prepared for the Ministry of Defence!

Now finally you add the word 'brief' meaning it was prepared as a brief FOR the Defence and Oversea Policy Committee , you know the people who actually SET policy. That you have tried to make out that it was a document written by Defence and Oversea Policy (Official) Committee just shows your attempted disotrtion. The paper was NOT prepared FOR the Ministry of Defence, it was prepared by a ministry of defence civil servant - Frank Mottershead FOR the Defence and Oversea Policy Committee. Your distortion of fact knows no bounds. Nothing new there then.

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Tel me now, were any of those quotes lies?

The quotes were not lies - what you tried to present those quotes as being and meaning and representing, who wrote them for whom, were and are lies. It is a lie to say the paper was prepared for the ministry of defence. It was produced BY them. It is a lie to make out that the section you quoted that was clearly and indisputably a suggestion of a single individual (who was NOT a member of the Defence and Oversea Policy Committee - you know the people who SET policy) as being the the policy of the British government. It was NOT official British policy in 1964 to offer TC money to re settle out of Cyprus, making out that it was by distorted quoting of this document, by omission and misrepresentation of what the document is, who wrote it and for whom and who's suggestion the bit you quoted was, was and is a lie. Claiming the document was "policy reported to Ministers" is a lie, it was and is no such thing. The list of your lies in regards to this single document go on and on and on. But this is nothing new - this is how you have always behaved for countless years here - with absolutely no regard for or interest in actual truth at all.

[insan]

Ain't there a discrepancy between the two allegations which are claimed that based on official declassified British secret documents?

"Other documents show that other members of British armed forces were up to their necks in gun running and espionage for the Turks and Turkish Cypriot terrorist militias.

In May 1964 senior RAF aircraftsman Keith Marley was arrested by Cypriot police after they discovered two mortars in the boot of his car along with incriminating letters from senior member of Turkeys civilian militias.

Documents from the national archives in London show that three other airmen were involved, the ringleader being corporal Sam Bass."

http://www.greece.org/hec01/www/projects/cyprus/MI6.htm

[insan]

Ain't there a discrepancy between the two allegations which are claimed that based on official declassified British secret documents?

"Other documents show that other members of British armed forces were up to their necks in gun running and espionage for the Turks and Turkish Cypriot terrorist militias.

In May 1964 senior RAF aircraftsman Keith Marley was arrested by Cypriot police after they discovered two mortars in the boot of his car along with incriminating letters from senior member of Turkeys civilian militias.

Documents from the national archives in London show that three other airmen were involved, the ringleader being corporal Sam Bass."

http://www.greece.org/hec01/www/projects/cyprus/MI6.htm

It seems to me that some circles feed some people with lies in order to either get huge donations or huge cash... where's Piratis when we need him... he was an expert of the so-called divide and rule policy...