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[Paphitis]

:lol:

Noone is going to risk being turned in to glass for turkeys sake.

Nato aint gonna do shit to russia directly.

It's not Turkey's sake. It's for NATO's sake.

It's more accurate to say that Russia will not risk being turned to glass! So there is not that great of a concern but when push comes to shove, yes NATO have made themselves very clear what they will do only a few days ago.

[Get Real!]

Yes we can all see hundreds of Patriot missile batteries being moved to Turkey and hundreds of NATO fighter jets flying over to Turkish airports readying for the great attack against Russia!

[Paphitis]

Yes we can all see hundreds of Patriot missile batteries being moved to Turkey and hundreds of NATO fighter jets flying over to Turkish airports readying for the great attack against Russia!

I doubt they will be moving now!

Don't worry, I predict some interesting developments within the next 48 hours.

[boomerang]

you talk as a 1 article by a single paper doing the rounds as a foregone conclusion...

you also seemed to be close to the Turkish government with a lot of inside information as to what and won't do, where, I am coming with useless Turkish news articles...how did I fail to see your connection...yes I have been check mated...

There was more than one paper picking it up.

Only the mainstream like BBC and CNN have not picked it up because the Turks and Americans have been tight lipped and probably they have their reasons for this.

All I know is that the Turks were never going to let this slip. they issued a warning to Russia that they would shoot their planes down if the incursions continued and I for one believed them 100% when the rest of you were making fun of it.

A Turk is a Turk. Nothing new here.

Turks and Israelis are not your typical US, Australian, French, Canadian, or British Military. We are little cuddly teddy bears compared to them. Too many "cool heads" and probably the world should be grateful for that.

please show me these papers that all picked it up with out making a reference to express or daily...

and you think they have their reasons for this?...like trying not to let the Russians know OR you think they might want to break it to them gently as not upset them too much...but as always I am open to learn so please go ahead and give me some of these reasons...

the turks ain't gonna do shit...apart from whining...something like us we whine a lot because we can't get the turks of our backs...same relationship and turkey whining...

ask your self this question...what would turkey achieve by doing this even if the Russian plane was in Turkish territory...you think the US would allow the turks to shoot at a Russian plane?...what would the US gain...

Obama is not as silly as some think.

Russia is trying to project power and construct some "show of strength". The USA does not need to do this.

With that, Putin might not be very willing to come across weak and the USA is not going to back him into a corner because of the slight possibility that he will react.

There are logistical concerns to have all the possibilities covered, including a potential attack against the Turkish Military which Turkey will force Turkey to escalate further.

I guarantee you that Obama has been working all night speaking to his allies and NATO members on the phone.

the only thing they are discussing between themselves is how to ask for Russian permission...the Russians have a mandate in Syria and everyone else does not...

there will be a day that all permissions will be denied by the Russians...why and how you ask...because if the Russians wanted to, they could rain missiles all day, have a lot of sorties and the airspace will be over crowded...surely you can see such a scenario...so permission would be needed...now do the Russians need permision from anyone?...NO...

[Maximus]

:lol:

Noone is going to risk being turned in to glass for turkeys sake.

Nato aint gonna do shit to russia directly.

It's not Turkey's sake. It's for NATO's sake.

It's more accurate to say that Russia will not risk being turned to glass! So there is not that great of a concern but when push comes to shove, yes NATO have made themselves very clear what they will do only a few days ago.

Yes very clear.

Patriot missiles are leaving Turkey. Only mad dogogan or paphitis would shoot down a russian plane at this time.

[Paphitis]

you talk as a 1 article by a single paper doing the rounds as a foregone conclusion...

you also seemed to be close to the Turkish government with a lot of inside information as to what and won't do, where, I am coming with useless Turkish news articles...how did I fail to see your connection...yes I have been check mated...

There was more than one paper picking it up.

Only the mainstream like BBC and CNN have not picked it up because the Turks and Americans have been tight lipped and probably they have their reasons for this.

All I know is that the Turks were never going to let this slip. they issued a warning to Russia that they would shoot their planes down if the incursions continued and I for one believed them 100% when the rest of you were making fun of it.

A Turk is a Turk. Nothing new here.

Turks and Israelis are not your typical US, Australian, French, Canadian, or British Military. We are little cuddly teddy bears compared to them. Too many "cool heads" and probably the world should be grateful for that.

please show me these papers that all picked it up with out making a reference to express or daily...

and you think they have their reasons for this?...like trying not to let the Russians know OR you think they might want to break it to them gently as not upset them too much...but as always I am open to learn so please go ahead and give me some of these reasons...

the turks ain't gonna do shit...apart from whining...something like us we whine a lot because we can't get the turks of our backs...same relationship and turkey whining...

ask your self this question...what would turkey achieve by doing this even if the Russian plane was in Turkish territory...you think the US would allow the turks to shoot at a Russian plane?...what would the US gain...

Obama is not as silly as some think.

Russia is trying to project power and construct some "show of strength". The USA does not need to do this.

With that, Putin might not be very willing to come across weak and the USA is not going to back him into a corner because of the slight possibility that he will react.

There are logistical concerns to have all the possibilities covered, including a potential attack against the Turkish Military which Turkey will force Turkey to escalate further.

I guarantee you that Obama has been working all night speaking to his allies and NATO members on the phone.

the only thing they are discussing between themselves is how to ask for Russian permission...the Russians have a mandate in Syria and everyone else does not...

there will be a day that all permissions will be denied by the Russians...why and how you ask...because if the Russians wanted to, they could rain missiles all day, have a lot of sorties and the airspace will be over crowded...surely you can see such a scenario...so permission would be needed...now do the Russians need permision from anyone?...NO...

Yes but they also stepped into a lot of dog poo and complicated this further. I see no end to this war anytime soon.

In the end, even Putin will be singing our tune and use his mandate for regime change.

[Paphitis]

:lol:

Noone is going to risk being turned in to glass for turkeys sake.

Nato aint gonna do shit to russia directly.

It's not Turkey's sake. It's for NATO's sake.

It's more accurate to say that Russia will not risk being turned to glass! So there is not that great of a concern but when push comes to shove, yes NATO have made themselves very clear what they will do only a few days ago.

Yes very clear.

Patriot missiles are leaving Turkey. Only mad dogogan or paphitis would shoot down a russian plane at this time.

That was news 2 days ago.

Let's just wait and see whether they do actually leave.

[boomerang]

it depends on which side of the fence you are sitting on...from the west point of view and what else really they gonna say?...yes he stepped in dog poo...

[Paphitis]

it depends on which side of the fence you are sitting on...from the west point of view and what else really they gonna say?...yes he stepped in dog poo...

Assad had 41 Rebel Groups fighting each other. Now that this is not the case, and we have a Coalition less willing to fly missions in Syria, what are they going to do?

They might be able to fortify the parts of Syria they control and they might be able to liberate some more territory but then what?

The only solution here is a ceasefire and all interested parties to the negotiating table, including Russia and Assad. OK DAESH won't come and they're probably not welcome either. We will want regime transition.

Any Rebels unwilling to toe the line can be sorted out later once all the logistics are agreed upon. And there will be a lot less concern over any outbreak between Russia and NATO.

Don't be surprised that Obama and Putin have been on the phones talking to each other for hours about this, especially if one of their jets was knocked out of the sky.

[Oceanside50]

:lol:

Noone is going to risk being turned in to glass for turkeys sake.

Nato aint gonna do shit to russia directly.

Turkey might be thinking otherwise if they really had the nuts to take down a Russian jet. It would make the bombs today secondary in importance...instead of the headlines on the massacre of Kurds in Ankara, the headlines will be about the Russian jet