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[Tim Drayton]

No - Daesh was at least indirectly created by Assad and collaborates with Assad and mainly targets other anti-Assad groups, and its existence serves Assad well so that he can portray himself as being the lesser of two evils.

Can we please stop with all these DAESH creation myths.

According to the posters of this forum DAESH was a joint project founded by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the USA, the Assad regime and Putin's Russia. All of these founders of ISIS are also reported as opponents of DAESH but also constantly reported as supporting it and supplying it with money and arms or avoiding to hit it.

What bollocks.

Well, here is the evidence along these lines. I am not saying that this was the sole factor, or that Assad knew that releasing all these dangerous people from prison would lead precisely to the kind of entity that Daesh has turned into, but he knew full well that it would help to derail the revolution and turn it into more of a jihadi movement, which would serve his own propaganda ends.

http://www.thenational.ae/world/syria/a ... l-uprising

Things just took a very ugly turn for both Russia and Assad.

The Assad Russian plan seems to be to attack all rebel groups other than DAESH and I believe that may be because they are relying on DAESH attacking the FSA and Coalition from behind creating a second front for the FSA and Coalition. Also, as you say, they are hoping for DAESH to expand its influence so that the regime can push the "lesser of 2 evils" bollocks.

But, now for the ugly turn that neither Assad or Pootin expected. Obama has now authorized American Boots on the Ground which will undertake combat roles in some form or another. US Troops are about to deploy with Peshmerga and FSA units on the ground.

Pootin's 'brave' front is about to unravel but it is early days. It will take some time for the dust to settle but just imagine if Russia bombs American units on the ground.

In some respects things have got a lot more difficult for Pootin! We shall see in the coming days what form this American escalation will take.

The situation is especially very dangerous now. Pootin will need a very cool head now, otherwise Russia and USA might end up on the verge!

We'll see. Things look very chaotic to me and I think they could go in any direction. The figure I heard touted was fifty US soldiers on the ground - which doesn't sound like many - but perhaps I have got that wrong.

[Paphitis]

No - Daesh was at least indirectly created by Assad and collaborates with Assad and mainly targets other anti-Assad groups, and its existence serves Assad well so that he can portray himself as being the lesser of two evils.

Can we please stop with all these DAESH creation myths.

According to the posters of this forum DAESH was a joint project founded by Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the USA, the Assad regime and Putin's Russia. All of these founders of ISIS are also reported as opponents of DAESH but also constantly reported as supporting it and supplying it with money and arms or avoiding to hit it.

What bollocks.

Well, here is the evidence along these lines. I am not saying that this was the sole factor, or that Assad knew that releasing all these dangerous people from prison would lead precisely to the kind of entity that Daesh has turned into, but he knew full well that it would help to derail the revolution and turn it into more of a jihadi movement, which would serve his own propaganda ends.

http://www.thenational.ae/world/syria/a ... l-uprising

Things just took a very ugly turn for both Russia and Assad.

The Assad Russian plan seems to be to attack all rebel groups other than DAESH and I believe that may be because they are relying on DAESH attacking the FSA and Coalition from behind creating a second front for the FSA and Coalition. Also, as you say, they are hoping for DAESH to expand its influence so that the regime can push the "lesser of 2 evils" bollocks.

But, now for the ugly turn that neither Assad or Pootin expected. Obama has now authorized American Boots on the Ground which will undertake combat roles in some form or another. US Troops are about to deploy with Peshmerga and FSA units on the ground.

Pootin's 'brave' front is about to unravel but it is early days. It will take some time for the dust to settle but just imagine if Russia bombs American units on the ground.

In some respects things have got a lot more difficult for Pootin! We shall see in the coming days what form this American escalation will take.

The situation is especially very dangerous now. Pootin will need a very cool head now, otherwise Russia and USA might end up on the verge!

We'll see. Things look very chaotic to me and I think they could go in any direction. The figure I heard touted was fifty US soldiers on the ground - which doesn't sound like many - but perhaps I have got that wrong.

Yes 50 and that's all that is needed.

But there are probably going to be something like 1000 US Troops which don't exist and no one has knowledge of. Might even be some Australian Troops too because the SAS are not the type of troops you just send to UAE for a vacation, unless they are there to rescue downed pilots (and we have had none so far).

The bigger picture is that Ground Troops have been authorized to take limited combat roles of some form or another as we have seen when US troops stormed a DAESH prison in Iraq with the Iraqis and Peshmerga.

It is clear to me that stuff is happening but the Americans are a lot more keen to keep the media spotlight away from them as opposed to Pootin.

[GreekIslandGirl]

How is Putin’s so-called campaign to defeat Deash going? According to this latest report by the BBC, not very well, it seems:

It's contradicted by today's Express:

Vladimir Putin's bid to wipe out ISIS has been so successful that almost a million Syrians are elected to return to their homeland.

Or are ISIS and DAESH/Daesh etc officially different terrorist groups now?

I have noticed that the right-wing Daily Express and, to a lesser extent, the right-wing Daily Mail have become propaganda outlets for Putin. Let's not forget that these same rags supported Hitler in the 1930's.

Wasn't virtually the whole of British society enamored with Hitler in the 1930s (and beyond) - especially the founder/director of the BBC (Lord Reith). Anyway your point is irrelevant to today as the BBC doesn't have a free voice since this government threatened to end its license-payers' fees. The BBC is the voice of Cameron. Cameron is clearly pro-ISIS in destroying Syria, isn't he? Very little free press in the UK but I doubt any of them are pro-Putin, just that some hate ISIS more than others and fairly support his efforts to stop Syria going the way of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Paphitis]

How is Putin’s so-called campaign to defeat Deash going? According to this latest report by the BBC, not very well, it seems:

It's contradicted by today's Express:

Vladimir Putin's bid to wipe out ISIS has been so successful that almost a million Syrians are elected to return to their homeland.

Or are ISIS and DAESH/Daesh etc officially different terrorist groups now?

I have noticed that the right-wing Daily Express and, to a lesser extent, the right-wing Daily Mail have become propaganda outlets for Putin. Let's not forget that these same rags supported Hitler in the 1930's.

Wasn't virtually the whole of British society enamored with Hitler in the 1930s (and beyond) - especially the founder/director of the BBC (Lord Reith). Anyway your point is irrelevant to today as the BBC doesn't have a free voice since this government threatened to end its license-payers' fees. The BBC is the voice of Cameron. Cameron is clearly pro-ISIS in destroying Syria, isn't he? Very little free press in the UK but I doubt any of them are pro-Putin, just that some hate ISIS more than others and fairly support his efforts to stop Syria going the way of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Give me the British Press any day over Russia's.

It's just that Britain has some trashy outlets too, like the one you quoted as being supportive of Russia's intervention. But I guess that is a sign of free press, that there is so many outlets all with different views and quality. Additionally, Brits are very lucky to have the quality of the BBC on the air. You also have quite alternative viewpoints in Britain from the Left such as the Guardian so again aren't you all lucky to have such a free press?

Syria has gone way beyond anything imaginable so no use comparing it to Afghanistan which is actually doing quite well.

And oh yes, Cameron is pro ISIS. The tornadoes departing Cyprus everyday must be bombing the FSA and its allies. Stupid woman!

You're taking the piss obviously!

Im not being rude! Im not being rude! Im not being rude! It's just that you're being ridiculous!

[Tim Drayton]

Iranian sources are reporting that the Iraqi army, which has been surrounding Ramadi for some time in a bid to liberate it from Daesh, has moved into the city. If this is so, I am sure we can all agree that this is good news in the fight to defeat Daesh.

[Get Real!]

Turkish election campaign unfair, say international monitors
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... l-monitors

Le Figaro poll: Over 70% want Syria’s Assad to remain in power
https://www.rt.com/politics/official-wo ... ll-figaro/

Putin Comes Out on Top in Latest Phase of Geopolitical Chess Game in Syria
http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015110 ... syria.html

Lebanon charges Saudi prince over record drugs haul
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/l ... 04201.html

Anti-Israel Activism Criminalized in the Land of Charlie Hebdo and “Free Speech”
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/27/cri ... ech-march/

[Tim Drayton]

There are a lot of positive reports about the progress being made by the Iraqi armed forces to liberate Ramadi from Daesh, although I am still looking for confirmation from reliable sources.
In fact, if you glance through the latest roundup of news from the Daesh Daily web site (which includes translations into English of reports in Arabic):

http://www.daeshdaily.com/

the news seems to be bad for Daesh on all fronts. The turning point has come.

I am sure we can all take comfort from this.

[Tim Drayton]

Le Figaro poll: Over 70% want Syria’s Assad to remain in power
https://www.rt.com/politics/official-wo ... ll-figaro/

Yes, but the question actually was:

“Should world powers demand Bashar Assad to leave?”

and by answering 'no' that does not necessarily mean that you want Assad to stay in power. I would answer 'no' because I don't think it is the world powers' business - I want the Syrian revolution to succeed in overthrowing the Assad dynasty of dictators.

[Get Real!]

Vladimir Putin is Forbes magazine's most powerful person in the world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... world.html

US Aircraft Carriers Obsolete, Vulnerable to New Missiles
http://sputniknews.com/military/2015110 ... olete.html

Involvement in Syria to 'Damage US Reputation' Once and for All
http://sputniknews.com/us/20151104/1029 ... ation.html

Hard Nut to Crack: US Geostrategists Incapable to Outperform Putin
http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015110 ... takes.html

[Lordo]

air strikes have taken an interesting turn. once the bombs start blowing in uk planes and usa planes, i wonder how long before they realise that this was is not winnable and a political solution be found.

the solution is so easy. get the hell out of the middle east and stay out. while you are at it, take your israel with you.