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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:01 am

Paphitis wrote:Condolences to the American Soldier's family.


Indeed. For all we know, he could have been an Orthodox Christian.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:10 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Condolences to the American Soldier's family.


Indeed. For all we know, he could have been an Orthodox Christian.


Yeh he could be, but it makes no difference to me what his religious beliefs are or whether he is Atheist.

Just can't believe there are some rock apes who think this way.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:09 am

Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Condolences to the American Soldier's family.


Indeed. For all we know, he could have been an Orthodox Christian.


Yeh he could be, but it makes no difference to me what his religious beliefs are or whether he is Atheist.

Just can't believe there are some rock apes who think this way.


I know it's strange, but to some people out there if a dictator who was once a staunch atheist undergoes an overnight conversion to Orthodox Christianity (just by coincidence at a time when it was politically expedient to do so), that puts him close to sainthood.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:24 am

Russia Takes Over The Mid-East: Moscow Gets Green Light For Strikes In Iraq, Sets Up Alliance With Jordan
it's important to understand that this is all made possible by the fact that the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey decided to use extremist groups as their weapon of choice to destabilize Assad. That gives Moscow all the political and PR cover it needs to not only make a pure power play in Syria, but to establish closer diplomatic and political ties in Iraq and now Jordan. Thanks to the fact that the Western media has held up ISIS as the devil incarnate, The Kremlin has a foolproof cover story for what is quite clearly becoming a sweeping attempt to establish Russian influence across the region.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-2 ... nce-jordan

Putin has embarrassed us all in Syria. Welcome to the age of Russian power
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... power.html

Despite US Campaign, ISIS Oil Trade Booming
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/10/23/desp ... e-booming/

Stephen Cohen: US an Obstacle to Peaceful Multipolar World
http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015102 ... 66597.html

New Russian military might on full display in Syria
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-mission-dem ... 15120.html

International Monetary Fund Warns Saudi Kingdom May Be Bankrupt By 2020
http://www.hngn.com/articles/143153/201 ... t-2020.htm
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:14 pm

U.S., Saudi Arabia to bolster support for moderate Syrian opposition <--- The criminal fools never learn...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... 6720151025

Thousands of Italians, Spaniards Protest Against NATO War Games in Europe <--- Hey Tim, this is what a protest looks like!
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151025/ ... -nato.html

German Police Deploy Helicopter, Water Cannons at Massive Rally in Cologne
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151025/ ... logne.html

Israeli pilot captured: Arab paraglides into Syria to join Isis, sparks rumours <-- No idea what this is all about but it can't be that important.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/israeli-pilot- ... urs-651891
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:15 pm

Russia’s military is proving Western punditry wrong <-- Does that remind you of another fool on the CF? :lol:
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order-fr ... a-campbell

Iran to Join BRICS Bank
http://sputniknews.com/business/2015102 ... -bank.html
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:55 pm

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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:Russia Takes Over The Mid-East: Moscow Gets Green Light For Strikes In Iraq, Sets Up Alliance With Jordan
it's important to understand that this is all made possible by the fact that the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey decided to use extremist groups as their weapon of choice to destabilize Assad. That gives Moscow all the political and PR cover it needs to not only make a pure power play in Syria, but to establish closer diplomatic and political ties in Iraq and now Jordan. Thanks to the fact that the Western media has held up ISIS as the devil incarnate, The Kremlin has a foolproof cover story for what is quite clearly becoming a sweeping attempt to establish Russian influence across the region.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-2 ... nce-jordan



Apart from the fact that the above article opposes Putin’s intervention in Syria and says that he is using lies and deception to create a false pretext for the operation, it comes from a website on which every article is written by somebody calling themself Tyler Durden, not, as far as I know, a recognised expert on anything.

On the other hand, Hassan Hassan is associate fellow at Chatham House’s Middle East and South Africa Programme, a non-resident fellow at the Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy and co-author of ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror, and in an article he wrote yesterday (25 October), he notes:

ISIL has been advancing quietly and steadily in northern and southern Aleppo and in areas from Palmyra towards southern Syria. Its strongholds in eastern Aleppo, which seem more vulnerable than Raqqa, remain untouched.


http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/overe ... nefit-isil

In other words, despite the launching of an operation which Putin would have us believe is targeted at Daesh, since the start of this operation, Daesh has managed to expand its territory. This means that, either the Russians are not very competent, or they are not targeting Daesh and Putin is lying to the world.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:38 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:In other words, despite the launching of an operation which Putin would have us believe is targeted at Daesh, since the start of this operation, Daesh has managed to expand its territory. This means that, either the Russians are not very competent, or they are not targeting Daesh and Putin is lying to the world.

Why don’t you pose that question to your American friends; and their entire “coalition” of God knows how many air-forces, that claim to have been bombing ISIS/ISIL for over a year now instead of expecting the recently arrived Russians to do everything for you in two weeks? :lol:
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:26 am

The West blundered in its policy on Syria. I still do not understand why, with so much historical involvement in the ME, especially Britain, they, the West, has shown such an enormous amount of naivety and a total ignorance of the fundamental basics surrounding ME nations. I have always maintained that the ME can never fully adopt a democratic system given its incompatibility with the primary driving force in the ME , ie Islam.

Three years back I posted the following

" Re: The war against Syria

Postby Milti » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:56 am

Turkeys reaction to the Syrian shelling and the killing of 5 civilians was not excessive and understandable given the fact that every sovereign nation has an absolute right to defend its citizens and its territory. I hope that Turkey does not carry out the wishes of the West in this instance. Syria must be left alone to solve its own problems, Russia, in my opinion as well as China are absolutely right in not supporting the revolutionaries infested with Islamic extremists and Jihadis. The West is making a dreadful error in contributing financially to the revolutionaries aided and abated by extremist Islamists who come to Syria from all corners of the world.Stay out of Syria is the best option and the only option that the West should consider.
Back to Turkey and her undeniable right to defend its borders, lets hope that she may also realize the folly of her actions in invading and occupying a large part of a sovereign nation, our Cyprus.. Many nations are critical of Turkey and her hypocrisy in presenting herself as a defender of sovereignty whilst 40 thousand of her troops are occupying the northern parts of Cyprus.
The pseudo state she created and controls is a corrupt unrecognized entity, yet Turkey refuses to recognize the RoC which the entire world does. Its time for Turkey to realize that the 38 year occupation can not go on for ever, it damages her greatly in the eyes of the world, its bad for her economy and its detrimental to her ambitions to become a serious power in the ME.its also time for all Cypriots to embrace their true and only motherland, the island of Cyprus, the other two so called motherlands have brought us nothing but pain and suffering, propaganda and indoctrination. Cypriots stand up and swear alliance to our island, our beautiful sweet sunny Cyprus."
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