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[Paphitis]

The constitution of Syria is Arab in character, democratic and republican. "The political system is based on the principle of political pluralism, and rule is only obtained and exercised democratically through voting." This part was revised in 2011, so the rebels, or Sunnis if they are the majority could have ousted Assad at the ballot box.

That revision was made on 27 February 2012. Prior to that, the constitution ascribed the role of leading party to the Ba'ath party.

So this was the constitution of Syria.

They revised it so Syria is now a democracy and pluralistic. Assad has already given Syrians democracy one year after the uprisings begun and the majority of them voted to keep him in office as the leader of the country. if this was not the case, he would have stepped down.

If the rebels were in the majority and if they were democratic they would have been able to oust Assad at the ballot. But they are not and they cant so they resort to the gun.

I dont know why anyone would support the rebels. Assad seems to be more reasonable having given all Syrians the right to vote already and the majority have chosen him.

Your thinking is a bit misguided. At the time the revolution broke out, this constitution was not in place. I have taken a quick look at the 2012 constitution, and it looks wonderful, the problem is that there are many constitutions in the world that are great on paper but are not implemented in practice. The constitution of the Soviet Union on paper granted all sorts of rights at a time when Stalin was sending millions to die of cold and starvation in the Gulags.

In one sense, the introduction of the 2012 constitution can be seen as a kind of belated victory for the revolution. Had the revolution not started, there would have been no need for it. Anyhow, I have heard many Syrians interviewed on the BBC World Service who have said, "The moment Assad unleashed the army onto peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition, he ceased to be my president.' I can understand that sentiment; you clearly can't. I support the Syrian revolution; you clearly don't. What else can we say?

I have literally not spoken to a single Syrian who sympathises with Assad. Not even one!

There was a news crew interviewing many of the refugees now fleeing from Turkey to Europe, and the same sentiments were observed. Not even one refugee had anything good to say about Assad.

[Paphitis]

Russian airstrikes kill 2 ISIS commanders, 300 militants
https://www.rt.com/news/318122-russian- ... yria-isis/

US to abandon training new Syria rebel groups <-- Dumb and Dumber think they have a better formula
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34486572

US withdraws Patriots despite Turkey’s appeal to keep them <-- NATO secures Turkey!
http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_us ... 01117.html

Nato chief says prepared to send troops to defend Turkey <-- Don't forget to supply them with butterfly nets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... allon.html

Looks like Turkey is a sitting duck!

NATO has doubled its Rapid Reaction Force to 40,000 due to heightened concerns. Some of this force is Greek too.

Turkey is no sitting duck let me give you the tip. If Russia attacks Turkey, we have the official beginning of WW3.

[Maximus]

I actually visited Syria for holidays before this bullshit began. I saw the beggar children in the street, I saw the police everywhere, I saw the gigantic pictures of Assad on every single building and the little pictures of Assad in every single Syrian taxi. Assad isn't exactly a leader to support.

All the same, and unfortunately for the Syrian people who tried hard to do something about it, all these rebel groups have nothing to do with them. No rebel group in Syria represents the Syrian people nor is Assad.

The U.S.A/U.K, Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia highjacked their rebellion, their spring for proper democracy with imported killers and fanatics and depraved scum from all over the globe.

The only victim in this story are the Syrian people.

exactly.

I dont particularly care for Assad and I think the west's policy in Syria is a fraud.

Syria might not be a model state, not by a long shot but Saudi is even further away down the scale than Syria is and the US supports and is allied with them. I don't know where to begin with all the hypocrisy but here is one example. The US is supposedly using Incirlik to bomb isis but Russia has done more damage to isis in a fraction of the time and started attacking them much later. Furthermore, the kurds were the most successful force against isis and the US turns a blind eye to Turkey bombing them. This all suggests that the US is not being honest with their intentions in Syria and probably not attacking isis at all. Probably the opposite.

The bottom line is, the average Syrian is the victim in all of this, the rebels are no good either. Anyway this has nothing to do with bringing democracy to Syria but all about transporting gas through their country from Qatar.

[Paphitis]

I actually visited Syria for holidays before this bullshit began. I saw the beggar children in the street, I saw the police everywhere, I saw the gigantic pictures of Assad on every single building and the little pictures of Assad in every single Syrian taxi. Assad isn't exactly a leader to support.

All the same, and unfortunately for the Syrian people who tried hard to do something about it, all these rebel groups have nothing to do with them. No rebel group in Syria represents the Syrian people nor is Assad.

The U.S.A/U.K, Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia highjacked their rebellion, their spring for proper democracy with imported killers and fanatics and depraved scum from all over the globe.

The only victim in this story are the Syrian people.

exactly.

I dont particularly care for Assad and I think the west's policy in Syria is a fraud.

Syria might not be a model state, not by a long shot but Saudi is even further away down the scale than Syria is and the US supports and is allied with them. I don't know where to begin with all the hypocrisy but here is one example. The US is supposedly using Incirlik to bomb isis but Russia has done more damage to isis in a fraction of the time and started attacking them much later. Furthermore, the kurds were the most successful force against isis and the US turns a blind eye to Turkey bombing them. This all suggests that the US is not being honest with their intentions in Syria and probably not attacking isis at all. Probably the opposite.

The bottom line is, the average Syrian is the victim in all of this, the rebels are no good and it has nothing to do with bringing democracy to Syria but all about transporting gas through their country from Qatar.

Lucky we are going to remove Assad then. That is what the Syrian people want.

[Maximus]

I actually visited Syria for holidays before this bullshit began. I saw the beggar children in the street, I saw the police everywhere, I saw the gigantic pictures of Assad on every single building and the little pictures of Assad in every single Syrian taxi. Assad isn't exactly a leader to support.

All the same, and unfortunately for the Syrian people who tried hard to do something about it, all these rebel groups have nothing to do with them. No rebel group in Syria represents the Syrian people nor is Assad.

The U.S.A/U.K, Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia highjacked their rebellion, their spring for proper democracy with imported killers and fanatics and depraved scum from all over the globe.

The only victim in this story are the Syrian people.

exactly.

I dont particularly care for Assad and I think the west's policy in Syria is a fraud.

Syria might not be a model state, not by a long shot but Saudi is even further away down the scale than Syria is and the US supports and is allied with them. I don't know where to begin with all the hypocrisy but here is one example. The US is supposedly using Incirlik to bomb isis but Russia has done more damage to isis in a fraction of the time and started attacking them much later. Furthermore, the kurds were the most successful force against isis and the US turns a blind eye to Turkey bombing them. This all suggests that the US is not being honest with their intentions in Syria and probably not attacking isis at all. Probably the opposite.

The bottom line is, the average Syrian is the victim in all of this, the rebels are no good and it has nothing to do with bringing democracy to Syria but all about transporting gas through their country from Qatar.

Lucky we are going to remove Assad then. That is what the Syrian people want.

Not really paphitis,

Syria is being razed to the ground, 250k+ people have died and 4m Syrians have been made refugees.

The west does not care about this. They dont care what dirty hypocritical or illegal measures they use. Or the scum they will fund and arm to put their puppet leader in government to get their gas pipelines through.

I dont buy the BS that its for democracy. There are too many hypocritical points to hit that suggest otherwise. Only a naive soul would believe the US and its allies iare doing this purely for democracy, human rights and all that jazz for nothing.

[Paphitis]

I actually visited Syria for holidays before this bullshit began. I saw the beggar children in the street, I saw the police everywhere, I saw the gigantic pictures of Assad on every single building and the little pictures of Assad in every single Syrian taxi. Assad isn't exactly a leader to support.

All the same, and unfortunately for the Syrian people who tried hard to do something about it, all these rebel groups have nothing to do with them. No rebel group in Syria represents the Syrian people nor is Assad.

The U.S.A/U.K, Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia highjacked their rebellion, their spring for proper democracy with imported killers and fanatics and depraved scum from all over the globe.

The only victim in this story are the Syrian people.

exactly.

I dont particularly care for Assad and I think the west's policy in Syria is a fraud.

Syria might not be a model state, not by a long shot but Saudi is even further away down the scale than Syria is and the US supports and is allied with them. I don't know where to begin with all the hypocrisy but here is one example. The US is supposedly using Incirlik to bomb isis but Russia has done more damage to isis in a fraction of the time and started attacking them much later. Furthermore, the kurds were the most successful force against isis and the US turns a blind eye to Turkey bombing them. This all suggests that the US is not being honest with their intentions in Syria and probably not attacking isis at all. Probably the opposite.

The bottom line is, the average Syrian is the victim in all of this, the rebels are no good and it has nothing to do with bringing democracy to Syria but all about transporting gas through their country from Qatar.

Lucky we are going to remove Assad then. That is what the Syrian people want.

Not really paphitis,

Syria is being razed to the ground, 250k+ people have died and 4m Syrians have been made refugees.

The west does not care about this. They dont care what dirty hypocritical or illegal measures they use. Or the scum they will fund and arm to put their puppet leader in government to get their gas pipelines through.

I dont buy the BS that its for democracy. There are too many hypocritical points to hit that suggest otherwise.

Really Max.

No Syrian wants him, and we are going to achieve regime change one way or another.

Russia just stepped into the dog poo, and they are going to be at our mercy for years to come unless Assad is removed. So strap yourself in for a long ride.

[Maximus]

Yeah really,

[Maximus]

"we" are going after Assad but will leave Cyprus illegally occupied and negotiating along apartheid and undemocratic lines and "we" might accept it.

[Paphitis]

Yeah really,

Yes really!

Putin has his new Afghanistan and not to mention Chechnya!

We are going to keep Mr. Putin very busy for a good number of years.

[Maximus]

Yeah really,

Yes really!

Putin has his new Afghanistan and not to mention Chechnya!

We are going to keep Mr. Putin very busy for a good number of years.

Mr Putin is destroying your rebels faster than you can assemble and supply them.