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[Paphitis]

The Apache is far superior!

The yanks don't build all in one do it all junk. Apache is far better, and for utility it's the Blackhawk.

You watch too many Rambo movies because the Apache is just a lightweight attack helli so there’s no comparison with the Hind… it would be like comparing a standard rifle with an M2 browning!

The Apache is not designed to carry 20 troops. It's designed to be small, fast, maneuverable, and just blow a lot of shit up.

[Paphitis]

Shame your supporting these rebels groups re Paphitis. Look at who supports and arms them. Turkey, saudi, Qatar. They are Islamist dictatorships with poor human rights records. And supporting these 'savory' characters, we have the unconvincing US and some EU nincompoops, that would have you believe they are all fighting for the democratic rights of Syrians and to oust the "tyrant butcher" Assad?

Seems like you will support and defend anyone, even Erdogan or some jihadist's if they oppose to Russia. For what reason?

I support the Syrian People Max!

This all started by Syrians wanting to rid themselves of a tyrant. Far too many have died to just accept going back to that Status Quo so willy nilly. Syrians deserve better. It's their country not Assad's.

Some of these Rebel Groups like the FSA are the voice of the people.

The rebel groups are not the voice of the people, not by a long shot. You cling to this however independent polls have shown that Assad has majority support from the Syrian people. Elections in Syria since the conflict started have also shown this.
Dont you find it peculiar that a bunch of islamist dictators are fighting for democracy for other people but wouldn't give it to their own? don't you find it peculiar the Saudi has the worst human rights track record on the planet, is much less tolerant to its citizens than Assads Syria, is run by a tyrant monarchy but is supported by the US?

Its their (Syrians) country, not Erdogan's, Obama's or king Sauds.

The only countries supporting the Syrian people and the legitimate government of Syria in this conflict is Syria, Russia and china. The rest have a hidden agenda.

How can you say that Max?

Do you honestly believe that these Rebel Groups do not enjoy sizable support from sectors of the Syrian public on the street? Where do all the recruits come from Max? From the Syrian Public by any chance?

How on earth did 41 recorded groups form then Max? Out of cabbage patches?

Can a Rebel Group be created in Cyprus so easily? How about the USA spread some of that Cabbage Patch seed into Cyprus?

Not all the groups are Sunni either and some identify as Sectarian. Must have been different Cabbage seed! Not only that, but there are even Coptic Christian Rebels Max. That's almost the same if not a stricter form of Christianity than your Orthodox Brothers.

But as the Russians said; "If it walks like a terrorist, talks like a terrorist, then it is a terrorist" so I guess the Christian Militias have been tossed in the same bag as the likes of DAESH. We mustn't be fixated on labels after all, just paint the entire war into a Black and White scenario no matter how overly simplistic.

But no one talks like a terrorist and walks like a terrorist more-so than Putin (Ukraine) and Assad. They give DAESH a real good run for their money because I can assure you, DAESH have NOT killed 230,000 Syrians. Assad did!

I leave the other 20,000 as being killed by all the 42 rebel groups combined and coalition collateral

You need to back up your statements because these rebel groups do sound like a bunch of cabbage patch kids. 41 recorded rebel groups could all be mercenaries formed out of "cabbage patches".

Is the Assad regime the legitimate internationally recognized government of Syria - yes
Did Assad contradict the Syrian constitution - no
Did Assad invade another country - no
Did Assad kill 230k people - no
Did Assad make all 4 million Syrians refugees - no
Did the US and its dictator friends fund and arm the cabbage patch kids - yes
Did the US and its dictator friends invade another country - yes
Do they have a security council resolution for this - no
Are the US's dictator friends democratic countries themselves - no

You need to back your statements up.

Go right ahead and post a link to the Syrian Constitution and show me the bit where the Sunni Syrians have rights under the Constitution.

[Get Real!]

The Apache is far superior!

The yanks don't build all in one do it all junk. Apache is far better, and for utility it's the Blackhawk.

You watch too many Rambo movies because the Apache is just a lightweight attack helli so there’s no comparison with the Hind… it would be like comparing a standard rifle with an M2 browning!

The Apache is not designed to carry 20 troops. It's designed to be small, fast, maneuverable, and just blow a lot of shit up.

It’s not fast at all…. max cruise speed is around 160m/ph whereas the Hind is like 260!

The “secret” is that the Mi-24’s engines are almost TWICE as powerful so it can go faster, ascend faster, fly further, and carry much-much more.

I already gave you all this info you fucking IDIOT from my very first post, so quit fucking wasting our time!

[Maximus]

You need to back your statements up.

Go right ahead and post a link to the Syrian Constitution and show me the bit where the Sunni Syrians have rights under the Constitution.

The constitution of Syria is Arab in character, democratic and republican. "The political system is based on the principle of political pluralism, and rule is only obtained and exercised democratically through voting." This part was revised in 2011, so the rebels, or Sunnis if they are the majority could have ousted Assad at the ballot box.

Is the Assad regime the legitimate internationally recognized government of Syria - yes -TRUE
Did Assad contradict the Syrian constitution - no - TRUE
Did Assad invade another country - no - TRUE
Did Assad kill 230k people - no - TRUE
Did Assad make all 4 million Syrians refugees - no - TRUE
Did the US and its dictator friends fund and arm the cabbage patch kids - yes - TRUE
Did the US and its dictator friends invade another country - yes - TRUE
Do they have a security council resolution for this - no - TRUE
Are the US's dictator friends democratic countries themselves - no - TRUE

[Maximus]

Are the rebels democratic - NO.

[Paphitis]

The Apache is far superior!

The yanks don't build all in one do it all junk. Apache is far better, and for utility it's the Blackhawk.

You watch too many Rambo movies because the Apache is just a lightweight attack helli so there’s no comparison with the Hind… it would be like comparing a standard rifle with an M2 browning!

The Apache is not designed to carry 20 troops. It's designed to be small, fast, maneuverable, and just blow a lot of shit up.

It’s not fast at all…. max cruise speed is around 160m/ph whereas the Hind is like 260!

The “secret” is that the Mi-24’s engines are almost TWICE as powerful so it can go faster, ascend faster, fly further, and carry much-much more.

I already gave you all this info you fucking IDIOT from my very first post, so quit fucking wasting our time!

You're full of shit!

Max operating is 160knots and Vne is 197 knots.

A knot equates to 1.852 km/hr!

Apache is the best Attack chopper by far.

[Paphitis]

You need to back your statements up.

Go right ahead and post a link to the Syrian Constitution and show me the bit where the Sunni Syrians have rights under the Constitution.

The constitution of Syria is Arab in character, democratic and republican. "The political system is based on the principle of political pluralism, and rule is only obtained and exercised democratically through voting." This part was revised in 2011, so the rebels, or Sunnis if they are the majority could have ousted Assad at the ballot box.

Is the Assad regime the legitimate internationally recognized government of Syria - yes -TRUE
Did Assad contradict the Syrian constitution - no - TRUE
Did Assad invade another country - no - TRUE
Did Assad kill 230k people - no - TRUE
Did Assad make all 4 million Syrians refugees - no - TRUE
Did the US and its dictator friends fund and arm the cabbage patch kids - yes - TRUE
Did the US and its dictator friends invade another country - yes - TRUE
Do they have a security council resolution for this - no - TRUE
Are the US's dictator friends democratic countries themselves - no - TRUE

Links please!

I want to see that constitution you mentioned.

[Tim Drayton]

The constitution of Syria is Arab in character, democratic and republican. "The political system is based on the principle of political pluralism, and rule is only obtained and exercised democratically through voting." This part was revised in 2011, so the rebels, or Sunnis if they are the majority could have ousted Assad at the ballot box.

That revision was made on 27 February 2012. Prior to that, the constitution ascribed the role of leading party to the Ba'ath party.

[Paphitis]

ISIS feels the power of the Russian navy apparently from 1200km away!

Russian cruise missiles are junk!

4 of them fell in Iran!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34479873

[Maximus]

The constitution of Syria is Arab in character, democratic and republican. "The political system is based on the principle of political pluralism, and rule is only obtained and exercised democratically through voting." This part was revised in 2011, so the rebels, or Sunnis if they are the majority could have ousted Assad at the ballot box.

That revision was made on 27 February 2012. Prior to that, the constitution ascribed the role of leading party to the Ba'ath party.

So this was the constitution of Syria.

They revised it so Syria is now a democracy and pluralistic. Assad has already given Syrians democracy one year after the uprisings begun and the majority of them voted to keep him in office as the leader of the country. if this was not the case, he would have stepped down.

If the rebels were in the majority and if they were democratic they would have been able to oust Assad at the ballot. But they are not and they cant so they resort to the gun.

I dont know why anyone would support the rebels. Assad seems to be more reasonable having given all Syrians the right to vote already and the majority have chosen him.