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[Tim Drayton]

From the Israeli press:

Russia and Israel Quietly Collaborating on Attacks in Syria
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breakin ... 015/10/09/

Now I wonder what the motive for that could be? Anything to do with all that oil found on Israeli-occupied Syrian territory, by any chance?

[Get Real!]

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[Tim Drayton]

In March 2011, some teenagers were arrested and tortured for spraying revolutionary, anti-regime slogans on walls in the Syrian city of Deraa. This sparked off protests that gave birth to the Syrian revolution. From the very outset, the regime responded with heavy-handed police violence and arrests. Despite the repression, the movement mushroomed and within less than a month, large peaceful anti-regime protests were taking place in many parts of the country. On 25 April the regime unleashed its military against the protest movement and ushered in the civil war. Note, it was the Assad regime that started the civil war.

The fact that one small incident could rapidly spark off nationwide protests suggests to me that there was a clear mandate for deep-rooted change among a significant portion of the population, and most probably still is. I don't see how you can deny this.

[Paphitis]

In March 2011, some teenagers were arrested and tortured for spraying revolutionary, anti-regime slogans on walls in the Syrian city of Deraa. This sparked off protests that gave birth to the Syrian revolution. From the very outset, the regime responded with heavy-handed police violence and arrests. Despite the repression, the movement mushroomed and within less than a month, large peaceful anti-regime protests were taking place in many parts of the country. On 25 April the regime unleashed its military against the protest movement and ushered in the civil war. Note, it was the Assad regime that started the civil war.

The fact that one small incident could rapidly spark off nationwide protests suggests to me that there was a clear mandate for deep-rooted change among a significant portion of the population, and most probably still is. I don't see how you can deny this.

And there will be change Tim. It is inevitable. The people can't be denied or be repressed forever. As you say, history always condemns the despots and in the end liberation and freedom will prevail.

Now that Russia complicated things even more, it will just take a little longer. It will also sadly cost thousands more lives, but in the end the masses will not be denied. So many people have been killed by Assad.

[Get Real!]

The US Massacre in Kunduz Exposes the Bankruptcy of Obama’s National-Security Policy
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-us ... ty-policy/

Turkey urges NATO to keep up its Patriot defenses <-- The criminal Turkish monkey has shat himself... as if the junk Patriots can help him!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... HJ20151008

EU Commission head says relations with Russia ‘must be improved,’ US ‘can’t dictate’
https://www.rt.com/news/318074-eu-russi ... e-juncker/

[Cap]

[Get Real!]

Two Hinds prowl low for targets and end up devastating yet another massive terrorist-held area…



The Hind is the world’s most powerful heavyweight attack helicopter. Nothing can fly as fast, ascend as fast, carry as much cargo and armaments. There’s just no comparison with anything else out there.

[Paphitis]

Two Hinds prowl low for targets and end up devastating yet another massive terrorist-held area…



The Hind is the world’s most powerful heavyweight attack helicopter. Nothing can fly as fast, ascend as fast, carry as much cargo and armaments. There’s just no comparison with anything else out there.

The Apache is far superior!

The yanks don't build all in one do it all junk. Apache is far better, and for utility it's the Blackhawk.

[Get Real!]

The Apache is far superior!

The yanks don't build all in one do it all junk. Apache is far better, and for utility it's the Blackhawk.

You watch too many Rambo movies because the Apache is just a lightweight attack helli so there’s no comparison with the Hind… it would be like comparing a standard rifle with an M2 browning!

[Maximus]

Shame your supporting these rebels groups re Paphitis. Look at who supports and arms them. Turkey, saudi, Qatar. They are Islamist dictatorships with poor human rights records. And supporting these 'savory' characters, we have the unconvincing US and some EU nincompoops, that would have you believe they are all fighting for the democratic rights of Syrians and to oust the "tyrant butcher" Assad?

Seems like you will support and defend anyone, even Erdogan or some jihadist's if they oppose to Russia. For what reason?

I support the Syrian People Max!

This all started by Syrians wanting to rid themselves of a tyrant. Far too many have died to just accept going back to that Status Quo so willy nilly. Syrians deserve better. It's their country not Assad's.

Some of these Rebel Groups like the FSA are the voice of the people.

The rebel groups are not the voice of the people, not by a long shot. You cling to this however independent polls have shown that Assad has majority support from the Syrian people. Elections in Syria since the conflict started have also shown this.
Dont you find it peculiar that a bunch of islamist dictators are fighting for democracy for other people but wouldn't give it to their own? don't you find it peculiar the Saudi has the worst human rights track record on the planet, is much less tolerant to its citizens than Assads Syria, is run by a tyrant monarchy but is supported by the US?

Its their (Syrians) country, not Erdogan's, Obama's or king Sauds.

The only countries supporting the Syrian people and the legitimate government of Syria in this conflict is Syria, Russia and china. The rest have a hidden agenda.

How can you say that Max?

Do you honestly believe that these Rebel Groups do not enjoy sizable support from sectors of the Syrian public on the street? Where do all the recruits come from Max? From the Syrian Public by any chance?

How on earth did 41 recorded groups form then Max? Out of cabbage patches?

Can a Rebel Group be created in Cyprus so easily? How about the USA spread some of that Cabbage Patch seed into Cyprus?

Not all the groups are Sunni either and some identify as Sectarian. Must have been different Cabbage seed! Not only that, but there are even Coptic Christian Rebels Max. That's almost the same if not a stricter form of Christianity than your Orthodox Brothers.

But as the Russians said; "If it walks like a terrorist, talks like a terrorist, then it is a terrorist" so I guess the Christian Militias have been tossed in the same bag as the likes of DAESH. We mustn't be fixated on labels after all, just paint the entire war into a Black and White scenario no matter how overly simplistic.

But no one talks like a terrorist and walks like a terrorist more-so than Putin (Ukraine) and Assad. They give DAESH a real good run for their money because I can assure you, DAESH have NOT killed 230,000 Syrians. Assad did!

I leave the other 20,000 as being killed by all the 42 rebel groups combined and coalition collateral

You need to back up your statements because these rebel groups do sound like a bunch of cabbage patch kids. 41 recorded rebel groups could all be mercenaries formed out of "cabbage patches".

Is the Assad regime the legitimate internationally recognized government of Syria - yes
Did Assad contradict the Syrian constitution - no
Did Assad invade another country - no
Did Assad kill 230k people - no
Did Assad make all 4 million Syrians refugees - no
Did the US and its dictator friends fund and arm the cabbage patch kids - yes
Did the US and its dictator friends invade another country - yes
Do they have a security council resolution for this - no
Are the US's dictator friends democratic countries themselves - no