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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:04 pm

Misc articles...

One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the U.S. Bombs a Hospital in Afghanistan
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/03/one ... ama-ended/

Russia's Orthodox church backs 'holy war' against ISIS
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/worl ... cle/445605

Chinese J-15 fighter jets to join Russian air campaign against Isis?
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/russia-syria-c ... sis-649207
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:Lordo, is a Turk and as such I expect him to be anti-Russian because it’s not in his interests for international law and justice to apply to Cyprus!

But how do you explain those so-called “Greek Cypriots” who are pro American against Cyprus’ interests?

Therein lies the million-dollar question… but I think you’ll find the common denominator to be stupidity from an inability to understand the greater picture of what’s happening on the planet.


The conviction that a strong Russian presence in the ME will solve the Cyprus problem the way Cypriots want it to be solved requires somewhat of a leap of faith. Turkey is still a strong presence in the area, and provided that Erdogan falls, and unless his successors aren't complete potatoheads like he is, Putin could very well end up with a convenient Turkish silence or even Turkey in his back pocket. The Orthodox card has never been enough for any Northen Russian Orthodox bear to give a single fuck about the Greeks and Greek Cyprus. Historically speaking, when Russia actually did something for the Greeks the British and the French were equally favourably involved.

We need Erdogan's idiocy and incompetency to translate into vicious military action against Russia very quickly to make Russia consider Turkey's demise a prerequisite. We should cheer Erdogan on in destroying his own country.

To address the second part of your post Cyprus in and on itself is a country that has been ran by pro U.S.A and pro NATO politicians for decades (Vasileiou, Klerides, Anastasiades e.t.c). In my opinion, the U.S.A friendly Greek Cypriots are only of the particular allegiance because they were brought up in this way. Being pro-American for them doesn't equate being anti-Cypriot. They don't make that connection.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Maximus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:47 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Lordo, is a Turk and as such I expect him to be anti-Russian because it’s not in his interests for international law and justice to apply to Cyprus!

But how do you explain those so-called “Greek Cypriots” who are pro American against Cyprus’ interests?

Therein lies the million-dollar question… but I think you’ll find the common denominator to be stupidity from an inability to understand the greater picture of what’s happening on the planet.


The conviction that a strong Russian presence in the ME will solve the Cyprus problem the way Cypriots want it to be solved requires somewhat of a leap of faith. Turkey is still a strong presence in the area, and provided that Erdogan falls, and unless his successors aren't complete potatoheads like he is, Putin could very well end up with a convenient Turkish silence or even Turkey in his back pocket. The Orthodox card has never been enough for any Northen Russian Orthodox bear to give a single fuck about the Greeks and Greek Cyprus. Historically speaking, when Russia actually did something for the Greeks the British and the French were equally favourably involved.

We need Erdogan's idiocy and incompetency to translate into vicious military action against Russia very quickly to make Russia consider Turkey's demise a prerequisite. We should cheer Erdogan on in destroying his own country.

To address the second part of your post Cyprus in and on itself is a country that has been ran by pro U.S.A and pro NATO politicians for decades (Vasileiou, Klerides, Anastasiades e.t.c). In my opinion, the U.S.A friendly Greek Cypriots are only of the particular allegiance because they were brought up in this way. Being pro-American for them doesn't equate being anti-Cypriot. They don't make that connection.


You might just get your wish because I know these buffoons are stupid enough.

Its alright for these buffoons to violate everyone else's airspace and shoot down Syrian planes flying in Syria but;

Turkey has warned that it will react if Russia again violates Turkey’s border with Syria after Russian aircraft breached Turkish airspace over the weekend, with Moscow saying the incident was not intentional but due to a “navigational error.”

“Let me put it bluntly: Turkey’s rules of engagement are valid for Syria’s, Russia’s or another country’s warplanes. The Turkish Armed Forces have been issued with open instructions. Even if it’s a flying bird, whoever violates Turkish airspace will be subject to the necessary actions,” Davutoğlu told Habertürk TV in an interview on Oct. 5, stressing that Russia must not escalate tension in Syria.

Turkey, the one bomb and end of story for Russia.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:19 pm

It’s what I said at the start… that with Russia now firmly positioned as Turkey’s neighbor we can expect some interesting confrontations.

The Turkish government can make whatever announcements of grandeur they want for domestic consumption but the reality is that they are no military match for Russia.

I foresee Russian jets violating Turkish airspace many times in the coming weeks/months and I don’t ever expect the Turks to react other than bark from a distance… unless of course Erdogan is dumber than we know and opts for an early grave.

Maritime wise… I expect similar incidents to happen as the Syrian port that hosts the Russians will get ever-busier. I think the days when Turkey could send its fishing trawler and supporting navy off the coast of Ayia Napa are over as Russian maritime radar now extends all the way to Cyprus’ beaches and beyond.

Going back to the Syrian question, if the US foolishly chooses to continue funding and supporting terrorism and Turkey conspires with them again via their borders, then Russia has every right to turn Turkey into glass.

Putin will have to make some hard decisions so Turkey would be well advised to go by Russia’s rules here or she could end up being regional collateral damage. Not that anyone in the ME would complain of such an eventuality!

Those who think that NATO membership guarantees Turkey’s safety from Russia will unpleasantly discover that NATO membership means fuck-all to Vladimir Putin when Putin’s ME plans are compromised and he knows that the West will NEVER come to the aid of a Muslim country confronting Russia and risking WWIII.

Erdogan, should henceforth tread VERY carefully because he has invited the bear to move in with him and there's no going back now…

Happy times ahead for Cyprus.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:49 pm

Personally,

I can't see Turkey being dealt as an one bomb job. I can see the West coming to the aid of Turkey, because NATO won't just give up on its hold on the middle East because their second main ally in the region is Muslim. Heck, all the U.S allies in the region at the moment, but Israel, are in fact muslims.

What I think is that the Kurds, the PKK and other Kurdish organisations will be receiving funding and military equipment and training from Russia with the simple mandate that they create an independent Kurdish state that encompasses parts of Turkey, Syria and Iraq.
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:24 pm

Erdogan’s folly was to undermine the importance of Russia’s naval base and Russia’s former experiences with the Chechen problem. He miscalculated how far he could push the Syrian debacle before awakening the bear but now the damage is done for the bear is wide awake and has arrived at Turkey’s doorstep…

Turkey now has to learn to live next to a superpower that has moved in with him as a result of Erdogan’s dumb decisions and actions against Syria. He will now have to abide by maritime and aviation rules that satisfy the superpower.

As expected the new regional “Kingpin” will demand complete control of the state of affairs and Turkey will gradually be bullied into complete compliance.

Gone are the days when Turkey could hold a naval exercise at will off the coast of Cyprus without the slightest care for her neighbors or violate air spaces and EEZs without paying homage to and requesting permission from the superpower.

Soon Turkey’s regional damage suffered will start sinking in…
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:03 am

Israel shares the same fate as Turkey...

Israel will think twice and more before it decides to initiate air force attacks inside Syria
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Increa ... est-419571
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:39 am

3,000 terrorists leave Syria following Russian airstrikes
https://www.rt.com/news/317720-terroris ... irstrikes/

Russian Air Force destroys 20 ISIS tanks near Palmyra
https://www.rt.com/news/317715-russian-jets-isis-syria/

Russian Volunteers May Go Fight in Syria as Jets Jolt Turkey
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... ria-border

Russians Moving Artillery, Ground Forces to Hama, Syria
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-t ... ia-n438801
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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:29 am

The FSA Liberation Movement declares war on Russia

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Re: Russia conducts first air strike in Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:31 am

DrCyprus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Lordo, is a Turk and as such I expect him to be anti-Russian because it’s not in his interests for international law and justice to apply to Cyprus!

But how do you explain those so-called “Greek Cypriots” who are pro American against Cyprus’ interests?

Therein lies the million-dollar question… but I think you’ll find the common denominator to be stupidity from an inability to understand the greater picture of what’s happening on the planet.


The conviction that a strong Russian presence in the ME will solve the Cyprus problem the way Cypriots want it to be solved requires somewhat of a leap of faith. Turkey is still a strong presence in the area, and provided that Erdogan falls, and unless his successors aren't complete potatoheads like he is, Putin could very well end up with a convenient Turkish silence or even Turkey in his back pocket. The Orthodox card has never been enough for any Northen Russian Orthodox bear to give a single fuck about the Greeks and Greek Cyprus. Historically speaking, when Russia actually did something for the Greeks the British and the French were equally favourably involved.

We need Erdogan's idiocy and incompetency to translate into vicious military action against Russia very quickly to make Russia consider Turkey's demise a prerequisite. We should cheer Erdogan on in destroying his own country.

To address the second part of your post Cyprus in and on itself is a country that has been ran by pro U.S.A and pro NATO politicians for decades (Vasileiou, Klerides, Anastasiades e.t.c). In my opinion, the U.S.A friendly Greek Cypriots are only of the particular allegiance because they were brought up in this way. Being pro-American for them doesn't equate being anti-Cypriot. They don't make that connection.


Most Cypriot leaders like the one's mentioned have/had the good sense to know that NATO, USA and virtually all the members of the coalition are the RoC's best and most reliable allies.

There is however the peasant uneducated thinking that Russia will assist Cyprus because of the Orthodox Ties, but as you correctly stated, the Russians don't care.
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