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by **Maximus** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:09 pm

yes, lets keep it all hush hush that the Syrian air force defected.

by **Paphitis** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:14 pm

Maximus wrote:yes, lets keep it all hush hush that the Syrian air force defected.

You can lead a donkey to water but you can't force it to drink from the trough.

Yes, hundreds of pilots defected as well as thousands of soldiers and even commissioned officers. Some of the top brass are the head honchos in the FSA.

But the most daring defection was when one pilot flew straight into Israeli Airspace and asked Israel for political asylum. Australia took him in and gave him citizenship because ASIO arranged a marriage with an Aussie girl and then they gave him a job on Australia's Sentinel program. Now B777 for QANTAS.

by **Maximus** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:33 pm

Ok.

Three days of russian airstrikes on isis targets has obliterated their hq command center, supplies depots and training camps.

The americans and the turks couldnt do this in a year. !

Putin has ruined the party. Obama cant come out and openly condemn these attacks or attack russia otherwise he will to be seen and exposed as covertly supporting isis.

Obama is playing checkers while putin is playing chess. Me thinks that obama is on the ropes and his credibility and support is taking a battering.

by **Paphitis** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:41 pm

Maximus wrote:Ok.

Three days of russian airstrikes on isis targets has obliterated their hq command center, supplies depots and training camps.

The americans and the turks couldnt do this in a year. !

Putin has ruined the party. Obama cant come out and openly condemn these attacks or attack russia otherwise he will to be seen and exposed as covertly supporting isis.

Obama is playing checkers while putin is playing chess. Me thinks that obama is on the ropes and his credibility and support is taking a battering.

There has not even been a single isolated attack on DAESH so far.

And really sorry but even if there was, there is no way that these air strikes are more effective than coalition airpower.

Putin has ruined nothing but is now placed himself in a position where we decide when he gets out. If we want to keep him busy then we will and he will be there for years.

Our aircraft are better, have better command and control, better technology and can fly more sorties per airframe and have better and more accurate bombs and missiles and our pilots are better trained.

Our aircraft are also more reliable and more stealthy and have an all night and all weather capability.

Basically Max, we can keep this war going for as long as we want the Rissians pegged down and until they are willing to talk regime change. They will come round one day. Got no choice.

by **Get Real!** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:52 pm

First official report from General Andrey Kartapolov who is in command of the Syrian base, translated from Russian by a friend:

From 30th Sep Russian jets made more than 60 sorties in Syrian Arab Republic with aim to damage 50 ISIS infrastructural objects. Those objects are: commandment locations, ammunition and explosives warehouses, telecommunication centers, small manufactures of weaponry and terrorist training camps.

Strikes were executed night and day on all Syrian territory. I want to emphasize that in 3 days we succeeded in undermining resources and supplies of terrorists and radically decrease their fighting abilities

Our intelligence reports that militants fleeing from controlled by them areas, panic and desertion started amongst them. Yesterday about 600 mercenaries foreigners left their fighting positions and are trying to get to Europe.

With regard to this we will not only continue our strikes but also will intensify them. I want to draw your attention that about our strikes on ISIS we have informed in advance. One of the first at morning on September 30th by our representative in Baghdad general Kuralenko was informed US attaché on security issues in Iraq colonel Hadi Petro.

Apart from this, mentioned above information was delivered to our foreign colleagues not only via Ministry of Defence international connections but as well via Foreign Relations Ministry. Via this contacts we recommended to get out of region all instructors and advisers, and specially those valuable colleagues that were trained on money of US taxpayers.

Additionally we recommended to stop flights of any aircrafts near regions of activity of our jets.

By the way, Americans told us, that there are no-one in this region apart from terrorists.

I want to remind that in Baghdad started to work international communication Center of Coordination Committee. To participate in this Center we invited all parties interested in fight against ISIS. One of it's tasks is activity coordination and avoiding of any incidents.

We openly invited our partners to provide any available details about ISIS objects on territory of Syria and Iraq. And we should openly admit that such details we received only from our colleagues in Center from Iran, Iraq and Syria. But we as before are open for dialogue with all interested countries and will welcome all constructive inputs to this mission. Thank you.

by **Get Real!** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Game Over: ISIL Short on Cash, Russian Planes Back Them Into Corner

ISIL is in serious trouble, as terrorists are being squeezed from all sides by airstrikes, meanwhile their economy is coming apart at the seams. Islamic radicals need to take over new territories to improve their budget, but with Russian planes hovering over the Syrian sky, things aren’t that easy anymore.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151003/ ... z3nVhFMkFK

by **Get Real!** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:18 pm

Putin Lives in the Real World, Obama Lives in a Fantasyland

Listening to the speeches of the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, and the President of the United States, Barack Obama, at the United Nations General Assembly in New York on Monday, one is instantly struck by the polarization of the leader’s interpretation of world events. It is obvious that one leader resides in real world, whilst the other appears to live in a deluded fantasy.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/putin-live ... nd/5479575

by **Get Real!** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:19 pm

David Cameron's policy on Syria is wrong and Russia's is right

by **Paphitis** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:Putin Lives in the Real World, Obama Lives in a Fantasyland
Listening to the speeches of the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, and the President of the United States, Barack Obama, at the United Nations General Assembly in New York on Monday, one is instantly struck by the polarization of the leader’s interpretation of world events. It is obvious that one leader resides in real world, whilst the other appears to live in a deluded fantasy.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/putin-live ... nd/5479575

What planes? Only planes flying over DAESH controlled areas are coalition planes and if they are running out of money it is because the coalition has destroyed all their money making infrastructure and oil refineries.

by **Get Real!** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:What planes? Only planes flying over DAESH controlled areas are coalition planes and if they are running out of money it is because the coalition has destroyed all their money making infrastructure and oil refineries.

There’s no such thing as “coalition planes” anymore as a no-fly zone has been strictly imposed by the Russians whereby nothing gets in and nothing gets out without their permission, and you’d better believe it Paphidoudi... :lol: