DrCyprus wrote:Get Real! wrote:I’m aware that many of you consider Europe to be “civilized” and all that but I don’t agree with this.
The moment France (and all other imperialist-minded EU states) become responsible law-abiding nations that work for the interests of their citizens; instead of fucking around with the US, is the moment "terrorism" will disappear.
Europe has a long way to go before it becomes civilized for it must first HONOR its signatures because if you’re unable or unwilling to follow the rule of law then you cannot be considered civilized.
Please give us a current example of a civilized state.
Being civilized isn’t about having the latest digital TVs, smartphones, nice houses and hot cars. Such material possessions would constitute “technologically advanced” and perhaps “wealthy” but not necessarily civilized.
Saudi Arabia is one such extreme example of a country that has access to almost any technology it desires as a result of oil wealth, but is simultaneously mentally archaic and backwards and thus uncivilized.
To be considered civilized we need to be civil and that of course means courteous, gracious, caring, well mannered, gentlemanly, and so forth, but the West does NOT possess any of these characteristics either because it is constantly engaged in flagrant violations of international law against 3rd world impoverished and defenseless nations.
This recurring theme; that has become the hallmark of the West, is in direct contraction to civility and cannot therefore be ignored so to answer your question, the most civilized countries would have to be those that are both technologically advanced, law abiding, AND civil in their attitude towards their neighbors and other nations and I’ll leave that for you to decide who satisfies these criteria if any.