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Xenides-Aresti Vs Turkey - ECHR decision

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:57 pm

God help you students MS. Only hope you never get Turkish Cypriot or Turkish students.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:04 am

wtf... :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:05 am

Main_Source wrote:wtf... :roll:


arent you a lecturer?
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Postby ONURLU_1925 » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:32 am

killing TCs, taking their living and human rights from them and annexation Cyprus to another country, security problems, chaos atmosphere in Cyprus(all of them are state of affairs) give Turkey to taking the necessary steps to ensure observance of state of affairs. This step is Turkish legal intervention. However you don't understand that. Excuse me you don't want to accept/understand that. I also wonder who is moron? But I also know the answer.

Truths give pain... :lol:
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:46 am

arent you a lecturer?
lol no.

killing TCs, taking their living and human rights from them and annexation Cyprus to another country, security problems, chaos atmosphere in Cyprus(all of them are state of affairs) give Turkey to taking the necessary steps to ensure observance of state of affairs. This step is Turkish legal intervention. However you don't understand that. Excuse me you don't want to accept/understand that. I also wonder who is moron? But I also know the answer.

Truths give pain...


TC killed GC too...what are you talking about you fool. Factions like the TMT did as much to cause chaos in Cyprus and it was the Turkish army who napalmed a Greek Cypriot village in the 1960's. You are just so used to propaganda you cant see through the shit you have been fed.

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Postby pg » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:37 am

Viewpoint wrote:So pg what were Turkish Cypriots supposed to do? wait for their fate at the hands of EOKA terrorists? Well forgive my community for feeling threatened at the hands of these murders, surely its was their right to retaliate and defend themselves.


My point was that at the worst moments the TMT and EOKA-B was just as bad - and if we agree to that, then perhaps we can also agree to that there is not much point to spend time discussing who was at fault, since it will not lead us anywhere. In short, it was a total fckup, and let's not waist another generation on that discussion, but talk about the future instead.
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Postby pg » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:41 am

ONURLU_1925 wrote:
Main_Source wrote:arghhh u fool. THERE IS NO LEGAL COUNTRY CALLED 'TRNC'.


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ARTICLE 3
In the event of any breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, the United Kingdom, and Turkey undertake to consult together, with a view to making representations, or taking the necessary steps to ensure observance of those provisions. In so far as common or concerted action may prove impossible, each of the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim Of re-establishing the state of affairs established by the present Treaty.

Especially, article 3 gives Turkey the intervention right to Cyprus. That's why I wrote article 3 in bold form.

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I am sorry but you are not allowed to pick and choose between the articles in treaties you sign...

Yes, the intervention was legal, but only to re-establish the state of affaris according to the constitution of the RoC, including its territorial integrity... and that does not include throughing peaceful people out of their homes.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:48 am

But if you have a constitution that was not working and both communites were hell bent on hidden agendas what do you do after intervention if you feel that trying to restore something that didnt work will not work in the future. Surely we have been trying albeit not willingly to find a compromise and solution that will not be a repeat of the mistakes of the past. The "RoC" constitiution for us is the past, it died in 1963.
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Postby pg » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:31 pm

For sure you do not through innocent people out of their houses...

The intervention had only one right - to restore, to try to continue to compromise until there is a solution. However, we did not see much of that, did we... not even 5 minutes.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:55 pm

then this continuous barrage of insults by hardliners like Piratis and Kifeas serves no purpose other than hardening negative stances between our 2 communities. Why doesnt the GC leadership take the lead as they are the recognized part of the island by allowing direct flights?
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