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[BirKibrisli]

My initial feeling is that the court has come up with a political decision,instead of a judicial one.It has decided to sit on the fence for the time being.By agreeing that there has been a violation of the Plaintiff's humanrights,but refusing to award compensation,they have essentially awarded Turkey with much needed breathing space.Justice has not been served.This is an attempt to give the impression that justice is served.
It will be the source of foul smells for some time to come.

[ONURLU_1925]

If there is a violation of human rights, ECHR is the name of this violation. ECHR's want Turkey to make concessions in Cyprus. Please look at the map, you can cleary see that Turkey is besieged by Greek Islands, but one important island is missing. It is the most important island of Mediterranean Sea, not only geopolitical reasons but also natural resources. Are European people afraid of Turkey, I don't know But Xenides-Aresti and the other trails are the reasons of Loizidu's trail.
Who are Titiana Louizidu?
She wanted to enter to an independence country,Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus(KKTC), with an illegal way. Of course, Turkish Cypriots' soldier didn't give permission to her. After this, she apply ECHR and claim that she was deprived of the right to use her property, but KKTC is not known by ECHR and ECHR said that "this is Turkey's responsibility." It is ridiculuos, because KKTC is an independence country, KKTC is not Turkey.
On the otherhand, ECHR estimation authority bonds Turkey only and only in Turkey borders.
Let me explain.
Bankovic, Serbian plaintiff, applied ECHR, because NATO planes bombarded Yugoslavia national TV. ECHR said that;
"violation is outside from NATO countries" and reject this estimation request. Do you know this?
At the second, ECHR put pressure to Turkey to accept Loizidu decision, but the same ECHR scare England and France. England doesn't accept ECHR's Gibraltar decision and France doesn't accept EHCR's Haktar decision.
Do you know this?
ECHR's decisions are political decisions and one-sided decisions.
KKTC is known or not known it doesn't matter. There is an independence country in Nouthern Cyprus, as you know.

Another important point, you know that law has some important and unchanged rules. For example, law musn't executed from present to history. Let me explain. For example X person uses drugs in A country. But it is not a crime in A country in 2005. In 2006, X person will give up using drugs. In 2007, using drugs wiil be a crime in A country. Now, A country won't blame X person for using drugs in 2005.
Turkey accept ECHR's laws in 20 January 1990. ECHR can't blame Turkey for doing something in 1974. If ECHR does it, it contradicts the main rules of laws. ECHR also rejected two Turkish people applications, Yağcı and Sargun applications, because applications includes events, prior periods of 1990 . It is dilemma, isn't it?

At third, a Turkish Cypriot cannot apply the ECHR, because KKTC(in turkish KKTC, in english TRNC as you know) isn't known by ECHR. So that Turkish Cypriots lifes, freedom etc. is unimportant for ECHR. Now, does ECHR protect all people or does ECHR choose people to protect?

[metecyp]

Turkey accept ECHR's laws in 20 January 1990. ECHR can't blame Turkey for doing something in 1974. If ECHR does it, it contradicts the main rules of laws. ECHR also rejected two Turkish people applications, Yağcı and Sargun applications, because applications includes events, prior periods of 1990 . It is dilemma, isn't it?

No it's not dilemma but your inability to understand how human rights work. ECHR is not blaming Turkey for what happenned in 1974. ECHR decisions are about now. Aresti cannot use his/her property right now along with other GC refugees. Human rights violations are happenning right now by not letting people enjoy their property and that's the reason behind ECHR decisions not 1974 events.

[ONURLU_1925]

Aresti's not using property trail depends on events, which happened 1974 and before 1974. So that it isn't today's event. TRNC is an independend country, of course someone cannnot enter this country without permission.

[Main_Source]

Aresti's not using property trail depends on events, which happened 1974 and before 1974. So that it isn't today's event. TRNC is an independend country, of course someone cannnot enter this country without permission.

Aresti is currently not allowed to use her own property because of the Turkish occupation in Cyprus. I would say this is still a current violation of human rights.

[ONURLU_1925]

It isn't violation of human rights. For example, if I want to travel a country, for example Russia, may I get Russian border without permission? No, because of its independency and TRNC is independence too. Why Aresti aren't allowed to go her [b]old[/old] property? Because after establishin TRNC, Greek Cypriots' properties in TRNC were expropriated , it is a compansation for Turkish properties in South Cyprus. This expropriation weren't tricky like Greek Cypriots expropriation on Turkish Cypriots' properties. Turkish Cypriots renounced their properties in South with this expropriation.

For example, If Aresti were allowed to go her property, she wouldn't have used her property, because it has a new owner now. So we can cleary see that Aresti's problem isn't preventig to use their property, her property was also expropriated. However, ECHR neglects the new owners, Turkish Cypriots, ECHR don't accept that someone is living in TRNC. So this trail is a violation of human rights.

[Main_Source]

arghhh u fool. THERE IS NO LEGAL COUNTRY CALLED 'TRNC'.

[pg]

If there is a violation of human rights, ECHR is the name of this violation. ECHR's want Turkey to make concessions in Cyprus. Please look at the map, you can cleary see that Turkey is besieged by Greek Islands, but one important island is missing. It is the most important island of Mediterranean Sea, not only geopolitical reasons but also natural resources. ...

It is really tiring to hear that the Turkish army is not able to defend Turkey unless it can also occupy Cyprus.

[Kifeas]

It isn't violation of human rights. For example, if I want to travel a country, for example Russia, may I get Russian border without permission? No, because of its independency and TRNC is independence too. Why Aresti aren't allowed to go her [b]old[/old] property? Because after establishin TRNC, Greek Cypriots' properties in TRNC were expropriated , it is a compansation for Turkish properties in South Cyprus. This expropriation weren't tricky like Greek Cypriots expropriation on Turkish Cypriots' properties. Turkish Cypriots renounced their properties in South with this expropriation.

For example, If Aresti were allowed to go her property, she wouldn't have used her property, because it has a new owner now. So we can cleary see that Aresti's problem isn't preventig to use their property, her property was also expropriated. However, ECHR neglects the new owners, Turkish Cypriots, ECHR don't accept that someone is living in TRNC. So this trail is a violation of human rights.

Either you are a completely stupid person (most likely,) or you think we (everybody else) are completely stupid and thus you feel it is a good idea to make some fun on us by claiming all those nonesense that you do. In any of the two cases, you are still a fool!

Are all the people in Turkey so stupid like you?

[ONURLU_1925]

hahaha TRUTH gives pain... my racist GCs friend